Runaways Vol. 2 #1-24 (Brian K. Vaughan/Adrian Alphona) (spoilers) [Archive] - The Comic Board

nigma

02-17-2005, 11:13 AM

its hard to get, i showed up a few hours after they got the comics in and i was able to snag the last one...

the first couple of pages are on mile high http://milehighcomics.com/firstlook/marvel/runaways1/

if your an x-men fan....they have Juno (the guy with the fire mouth) he's a civillian and shows up to this "i was once a teen hero" meeting (like the AAA) it has one of the powerpack chicks, and others...

anyone else wanna add?

Friday

02-17-2005, 11:19 AM

My shop didn't get it. It's really getting on my nerves anymore.

Ice

02-17-2005, 11:20 AM

Unfortunately, I won't be able to read this, (and my other comics) until tomorrow... :(

nigma

02-17-2005, 11:20 AM

didn't get it in, or sold out?

Friday

02-17-2005, 11:21 AM

Didn't get it atall. I was there when UPS showed up. He dind't order one copy.

nigma

02-17-2005, 11:24 AM

Unfortunately, I won't be able to read this, (and my other comics) until tomorrow... :(

when you guys get it, pay attention to the last couple of panels, and the names that are dropped, it threw me in a loop.

And this is my 2nd favorite runaway’s issue, (next to Alex being killed, I love violence)

Ice

02-18-2005, 03:51 PM

Well I'll be damned. Not even people in the comics like Wonder-Man! They keep dissin' him!

"Except for Wonder Man...but he don't count."

:lol:

Caduceus

02-18-2005, 04:03 PM

And this is my 2nd favorite runaway’s issue, (next to Alex being killed, I love violence)

:D

By the way, I read the preview pages but I won't get the issue till I get back to Oz. Just after christmas.

Ice

02-18-2005, 04:10 PM

So guess who shows up in this issue?

Remember Phil Urich? Yeah, he's in here. And so is "Richochet". Oh, the girl "Julie Power" from Power Pack is here too. Damn, she sure grew up! :heybaby:

Also, there's Chris Powell who was "Darkhawk". Haven't heard of him. But anyways, Phil Urich is here with 'Michiko Musashi', leadinga 'supporting group' of teens who used to be heroes. Oh and Chamber is here as well. These are the EXCELSIOR hereos, btw. ;)

Caduceus

02-18-2005, 04:12 PM

Remember Phil Urich? Yeah, he's in here. And so is "Richochet". Oh, the girl "Julie Power" from Power Pack is here too. Damn, she sure grew up! :heybaby:

That is the sleaziest emoticon. Its even called "Hey Baby".

Ice

02-18-2005, 04:13 PM

That is the sleaziest emoticon. Its even called "Hey Baby".
When you see how Julie looks now, you'd be saying "Hey Baby" too! :wink:

nigma

02-19-2005, 02:05 PM

all that therapy did her some good ;)

the question I got is, how does a band geek with an overprotective mother become the most evil and powerful person in the future?

And I think that Karolina’s gonn’a die soon…

Ice

02-19-2005, 02:09 PM

I still think it's funny that:

Not even people in the comics like Wonder-Man! They keep dissin' him!

"Except for Wonder Man...but he don't count."

:lol:

Ice

02-19-2005, 07:02 PM

And this is my 2nd favorite runaway’s issue, (next to Alex being killed, I love violence)
Same here.

when you guys get it, pay attention to the last couple of panels, and the names that are dropped, it threw me in a loop.
Oh what a loop it was!

This is what went down:

The future Gertrude, came back to warn the Runaways, and tells the present Gertrude that she'll be leading the Avengersin about twenty years. As Molly asked if Gertrude was gonna be a 'super-hero', the future Gertrude says that she will be betrayed by someone on the team that she was stupid enought to put in. And that she (the future Gertrude) barely escaped, since the betrayer had slaughtered the Avengers. She said that the betrayer took the files and killed the others. The others being:

Hisako and the X-Men

Daredevil (GASP! What will MWF say?! :shock:)

The Fantastic FOURTEEN!

And every hero on the planet.

He became the most powerful man on the planet. Iron Woman sacrafied her life to help. So who is he? He's Victor Mancha. Yes, the very boy who has a super villain dad now, in 2005. This volume of Runaways will outdo the last one, by a longshot.

Caduceus

02-19-2005, 07:04 PM

GAH!

This story is cool. For those who don't know, Hisako is currently a student at Xaviers.

Anyone have a guess on who Victor Mancha's pappa is?
Personally, I'm leaning towards being named for his father Victor von Doom. That is, just a guess.

Ice

02-19-2005, 07:46 PM

Anyone have a guess on who Victor Mancha's pappa is?
Personally, I'm leaning towards being named for his father Victor von Doom. That is, just a guess.
There's a seperate thread on this, so any talk can go there.

The thread is:
Who's Victor's Daddy? (http://www.ultimatecentral.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1722)

TheManWithoutFear

02-23-2005, 08:03 PM

I got this along with the three previous trades. Pretty good I'm lookin' forward to the reads. Nigma hope you picked up/are picking up New Avengers.

nigma

02-24-2005, 12:13 PM

do you now get where i going with the whole east coast west coast thing?

Ice

02-25-2005, 08:42 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/icycleman/Runaways1.jpgThe Runaways Vol. 2 #1 issue has completely...run out of copies! (Pun intended). The issue has sold out the same day it hit the stores. No one had nothing to re-order from.

"According to co-creator and writer Brian K. Vaughan, Runaways Vol.2 #1 sold out at Marvel on Wednesday, the day it reached stores. This means that Marvel has, despite what Vaughan said was a “pretty generous overprinting” no copies left for retailers to reorder to fill demand.

But, as Vaughan posted – he’s been told that a second printing is coming:

“…despite a pretty generous overprinting by Marvel, the first issue of Runaways apparently completely sold out on the very first day it was released. So while your friendly neighborhood retailer might still have one last copy on her shelf, she normally wouldn't be able to order more for those of you sad sacks who missed out. I say "normally," because Marvel just called to tell me that they're rushing back to press for a second printing, which will have an all-new cover by none other than the Runaways' co-creator, master of fashion Adrian Alphona!

”A lot of people thought we were insane to relaunch our cult hit in this competitive marketplace, so I have to thank all of you who gave our new first issue a shot, and Joe Q. and Dan B. at Marvel for making it possible. It wasn't too long ago that a little book called X-Men got canceled, only to rise phoenix-like from the ashes to become the sales juggernaut it is today. Similarly, Adrian, Craig, Christina, Randy, Jo, Mac, C.B., and I won't stop until our kids control the world!”

Taken from: Newsarama on Runaways sellout. (http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28319)

TheManWithoutFear

02-25-2005, 11:47 AM

do you now get where i going with the whole east coast west coast thing?

What did you say about it?

TheManWithoutFear

02-25-2005, 02:13 PM

Here's my first problem... a lot of these threads are labeled like this one. I'm not looking for a discussion on this issue I'm looking for a General Official Runaways thread. I thought I found it but I have lost it? Or it's gone? I don't know. I think it's easier if we just have a threads that say "Runaways Discussion" or something... so we don't have to merge and close threads and go looking around. Anyone feel me here?

Anyway to what my concern is? Karolina is a lesbian right? She said she's in love with someone and she's having the same "I'm a loner" attitude that Colossus was having. I mean the parallels are uncanny to Colossus. and then at the end of "Good Die Young" she blushes when Nico says she's done with boys... Was she already outed?

nigma

02-27-2005, 12:51 PM

TheManWithoutFear

02-27-2005, 09:13 PM

My vote is that Kaolina's a lesbian, last issuie of volume one where Karolina and Nico are holding hands whent he frog jumps off.

That's what I'm thinkin... anyone else?

TheManWithoutFear

03-02-2005, 01:47 AM

http://www.popcultureshock.com/reviews.php?id=3936

I'm too lazy/crunk'd to find out if someone already posted this so if it's been posted delete it if you have too.

TheManWithoutFear

03-02-2005, 01:56 AM

I'm glad they're finally bringing in NIco's feelings about Alex's death .

nigma

03-02-2005, 02:18 AM

i wanna know who's the big guy in red that lil molly was tossing.

and this is going to be a nice issue, Gerts so heartless, and Chase so mad, can’t blame the guy Alex tried to have him drown

Caduceus

03-02-2005, 10:04 AM

I don't believe this has been posted yet. Good job MWOF. On that note though, you can just post them in the Previews thread, in the General Comics Discussion forum IIRC.

Its a funky cover, I liked Excelsior, its got an interesting mix of characters. The plot is being developed rather than just having them show up out of nowhere which I like. I really like how this is all developing.

Ice

03-02-2005, 04:27 PM

The preview was awesome. BKV is doing an excellent job with the characters progression. I can't wait to read the whole thing.

TheManWithoutFear

03-02-2005, 04:35 PM

Can someone give me details about that second group with Chamber. Who are those people and what are they doing again?

Ice

03-02-2005, 04:38 PM

The groupp with Chamber, "Excelsior", are old super heroes who basically gave up the gig. Why exactly they're formed, I am not sure. But I do know that they're first job is to hunt down the Runaways.

TheManWithoutFear

03-02-2005, 04:39 PM

The groupp with Chamber, "Excelsior", are old super heroes who basically gave up the gig. Why exactly they're formed, I am not sure. But I do know that they're first job is to hunt down the Runaways.

And who are they and where are the individual members from?

Ice

03-02-2005, 04:41 PM

And who are they and where are the individual members from?
I posted that in the Runaways #1 spoilers thread. All the members of Excelsior are named there, and who they were.

Caduceus

03-02-2005, 04:42 PM

They're a bunch of old super-hero's. I'm pretty sure we talked about this in the Runaways #1 thread. Chamber's a Generation X/X-men character, Phil Urich is the good Green Goblin, Julie Power was in Power Pack, Ricochet was somehow connected to Spider-man and I can't remember who I've forgotten

TheManWithoutFear

03-02-2005, 05:22 PM

TheManWithoutFear

03-11-2005, 04:32 PM

Just startin' this thread because there still isn't an "official" Runaways thread. So here it is and I'm starting it off with the cover to #4, which IMO is amazing.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y15/TheManWithoutFear/RUNAWAYS_4image_big.jpg

Ice

03-11-2005, 04:49 PM

The cover is awesome. Jo Chen will always be amazing.

nigma

03-11-2005, 05:59 PM

nice cover, where'd ya get it?

TheManWithoutFear

03-11-2005, 06:00 PM

nice cover, where'd ya get it?

Someone was flashing it around at ultimate-x.com.

Caduceus

03-12-2005, 02:06 PM

Duuuuuuuuuuuuude this is awesome. A beautiful cover.

Ice

03-12-2005, 02:09 PM

Duuuuuuuuuuuuude this is awesome. A beautiful cover.
Of course. Jo Chen never fails to impress! :D

TheManWithoutFear

03-23-2005, 12:14 PM

Who is Victor's father?

He's leaning towards Electro or Magneto in my opinion with what he's show us in powers.

Anyway decent issue. I wasn't terribly impressed by it but it wasn't too bad. Best part of it was the flashback scene.

Does anyone else think that Nico kicks ***. Definitely my favorite runaway. How 'bout if the spell on Alex really didn't work? I have my doubts.

Irish_4204

03-23-2005, 12:31 PM

I'm going out to the comic book store soon, must....get...runaways....

Ugh, I figured they would lean towards Magneto as the father. Magneto was a busy busy man in his prime...

nigma

03-24-2005, 03:14 AM

thisi is off topic, but MWOF did ya read the vol 1?

TheManWithoutFear

03-24-2005, 04:15 AM

thisi is off topic, but MWOF did ya read the vol 1?

Yeah, all of it.

iceman

03-24-2005, 04:27 AM

I read it. It was cool. Maybe I should start buying that book...

Oh, and the guy from the future looked like Nightwing. In the face, he reaaaaally looked like Nightwing. I liked that.

Ice

03-24-2005, 09:06 AM

I read it. It was cool. Maybe I should start buying that book...
YES! YOU SHOULD! It is indeed great! :mrgreen:

Oh, and the guy from the future looked like Nightwing. In the face, he reaaaaally looked like Nightwing. I liked that.
Yeah, he did, but it was, of course, Victor Mancha.

Ultimate Gambit

03-24-2005, 05:04 PM

can anyone give me a little summary about issue 2 please.

Bass

03-25-2005, 03:23 PM

I went into my comics shop yesterday and saw Runaways #2 on the rack. Having heard passing comments on this board about how it is good, and then noticing Vaughan was the writer (and having just fallen in love with the UXM Most Dangerous Game arc) I flipped through, liked the art (especially on the cover) and bought #2 and #1.

I have to say, I really, really enjoyed them. Even the older characters who are pathetic losers are written with care and love. I can't stand it when a pre-existing character who, simply because no one has written for him in years, is taken by a writer just so he can kill/maim/screw him to show how tough or cool their character is. Vaughan, despite having written these characters like Darkhawk as people who have lost everything and have realised that they're not special in any meaningful way still gives them distinction of character, backstories, and wonderful moments of story. So kudos to him.

Saying that, I could've sworn Runaways had more issues than just two.

It seems that I was right and must by the first volume next week. As someone who knows nothing about Runaways, it was easy to get into, though it definately *feels* like a sequel, its not hard to read.

I am extremely disappointed that there is a House of M crossover. It would seem that Victorious as Magneto's son would be the tie-in. That said, I hate crossovers.

I buy Runaways (or whatever) and I enjoy Runaways. I don't want, half way through the series, an issue to show up that discusses a story that occurred in another book. It would be like watching an episode of Sopranos that, for some reason, commented on what happened in Sex and the City (both HBO, both NY). It's out of place, and irrelevant. The only reason for it is marketing, and I have not time for that.

I thought with the advent of the Ultimate universe's policies of putting crossovers into stand alone minis would do away with this obvious gimmick, but as Disassembled and Identity Crisis proved, crossovers are staying. Blech.

In any case, really enjoying Runaways. Damn good book.

Dr.Strangefate

03-25-2005, 03:27 PM

I am extremely disappointed that there is a House of M crossover. It would seem that Victorious as Magneto's son would be the tie-in. That said, I hate crossovers.

I buy Runaways (or whatever) and I enjoy Runaways. I don't want, half way through the series, an issue to show up that discusses a story that occurred in another book. It would be like watching an episode of Sopranos that, for some reason, commented on what happened in Sex and the City (both HBO, both NY). It's out of place, and irrelevant. The only reason for it is marketing, and I have not time for that.

I thought with the advent of the Ultimate universe's policies of putting crossovers into stand alone minis would do away with this obvious gimmick, but as Disassembled and Identity Crisis proved, crossovers are staying. Blech.

In any case, really enjoying Runaways. Damn good book.

I agree completely about your view on Crossovers.... but i Have to say I did enjoy Identity Crisis. I wasn't a fan of Disassembled tho. DC Crossovers happen, they are how they keep any sense of Continuity, and it gives their comics a Mythology. Marvel Crossovers get forgotten quickly, the only successful one I can remember liking was Age of Apocalypse.

nigma

04-03-2005, 04:12 AM

(took me long enough to find this thread)

i thought that this was a good building up issue, it explained a little bit about what happens in the future and what victors powers are, for those of you haven’t gotten it...

Victor has some sort'a power over metal; he sort'a uses it to fend off the runaways, before Nico KO's him with a kick to the head.

and if i had a scanner i would scan in a pic of the Excelsior at the end. but i don't, but it was a nice a** panel.

nigma

04-04-2005, 03:24 AM

i fininally got a good pic of cover number #3, and also what the excluiors look like http://www.brightanvil.com/books/runa203.jpg

ProjectX2

04-04-2005, 03:36 AM

That's a nice cover. Thanks nigma. So if he has control over metal, then it's leaning towards Mags as the father a lot. But then he could be jsut some random mutant with any of those villains as a father. I mean look at mags children already. Pietro and Wanda's powers have nothing to do with metal.

nigma

04-04-2005, 01:48 PM

none of mage childern have metal powers, but then again this is meant to draw in new readers so.....

Ice

04-04-2005, 02:12 PM

none of mage childern have metal powers, but then again this is meant to draw in new readers so.....
Eh..Polaris has the same powers as Mags...

TheManWithoutFear

04-04-2005, 02:18 PM

Eh..Polaris has the same powers as Mags...

I thought Polaris ended up not being Magneto's kid.

Ice

04-04-2005, 02:22 PM

I thought Polaris ended up not being Magneto's kid.
Nope. It was confirmed in the "Of Darkest Nights" arc in Uncanny that Polaris is indeed the daughter of Magneto, being the half-sister to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. She has told it to them, in their face, but Magneto does not know. This was an old idea from a long time ago, that Austen brought back, and made it official.

So now, Magneto has 4 kids, with his first child dead. I still say that he will not ve given any more kids, cuz, come on, how many kids will Mganeo actually have? And for those who think Mag's the father cuz the kid can control metal-just cuz the kid does, doesn't automatically make him Mags kid.

Irish_4204

04-04-2005, 03:14 PM

I hope Victor's father isn't Magneto. I think Magneto is the obvious answer, so I don't think he will be.

Can someone tell me what powers Julie Power has? Rainbow flight????

TheManWithoutFear

04-04-2005, 03:20 PM

Was Polaris' mother human? or mutant?

Irish_4204

04-04-2005, 03:35 PM

Her adopted parents were humans. Her biological mother wasn't revealed. I think Magneto being her father will be retconned with the House of M much like all other Austen stuff.

Caduceus

04-04-2005, 03:46 PM

Her adopted parents were humans. Her biological mother wasn't revealed. I think Magneto being her father will be retconned with the House of M much like all other Austen stuff.
It was a retcon in the first place. Which made Zaladane all the more confusing. Welcome to 616 continuity :?

TheManWithoutFear

04-04-2005, 03:54 PM

ourchair

04-04-2005, 03:59 PM

I think Victor's powers being "magnetic" in nature links him too closely to Magneto that it's a red herring. Even if Vaughan had chosen to make Victor's father Magneto, he would have chosen a much subtler way of hinting at it.

On the other hand, there is still no proof whether or not Victor's powers are magnetic in nature yet: All we saw was a bunch of bleachers shape themselves into a giant hand. For all we know, he just has control over inorganic matter or he has a specialized form of telekinesis.

Caduceus

04-04-2005, 04:02 PM

This is off topic but... I always thought one of the best aspects/angles to Magneto's character was the whole relationship with a "flatscan" human, a species he's supposedly hates. I don't know if any of those stories were touched upon in 616 but I'm not a fan of Magneto sleeping around with a bunch of women, I'd rather see him as a one woman guy.
Seem that way as it may, it hasn't been the case. I may need to check but I believe that his wife Magda was the mother of The Twins, but Anya, the older daughter had a different mother. I also believe that he had a relationship with Amelia Vought (as did Charles), a relationship with Lorna's mother (at this point), Rogue and no doubt, many more. He's not Wolverine, Gambit or Havok bad but he still gets around. Anyone else has anything to say, start a new thread for it and I'll put this stuff in there. If not, back to Runaways

I don't really like the idea of Victor being Mag's son but its starting to look more and more likely. Doom is still a possibility in my mind though, as is Kingpin.

TheManWithoutFear

04-08-2005, 07:20 PM

http://www.runawaysthecomic.com/covers/cover205.jpg

TheManWithoutFear

04-08-2005, 07:28 PM

So whose the chick Karolina is with?

Ice

04-08-2005, 07:40 PM

That's Molly. Can't you tell? It's obvious to me.

TheManWithoutFear

04-08-2005, 07:44 PM

That's Molly. Can't you tell? It's obvious to me.

I guess I always pictured her shorter and chubbier with baby fat ya know?

Ice

04-08-2005, 07:48 PM

I guess I always pictured her shorter and chubbier with baby fat ya know?
In the covers she always appeared a little older. But she was always skinny. Never had any baby fat, though... :?

Caduceus

04-09-2005, 06:00 AM

Interesting cover

Ice

04-14-2005, 04:15 PM

Here is the cover to the first arc of Runaways, Vol. 2, "True Believers."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/icycleman/Runaways6.jpg

TheManWithoutFear

04-14-2005, 04:20 PM

I'm a little confused on what I'm lookin at there. It looks cool but what do I see a butterfly, sister grimm, blood?

Ice

04-14-2005, 04:22 PM

I'm a little confused on what I'm lookin at there. It looks cool but what do I see a butterfly, sister grimm, blood?
Yeah, that's what's there.

TheManWithoutFear

04-20-2005, 05:06 PM

Great Great issue. The runaways don't take **** from anyone. Darkhawk was insanely cool and just so dark.

I actually found Karolina and Julie talking really funny.

Also, I was a huge Jurassic Park fan and when I first read this title I thought about what kind of Dinosaur Gert's was. I knew it was too big to be a Velociraptor but just figured it was a mistake by the creative teams. Loved how Victor pointed out it to be a Deinonychus. probably my favorite moment.

The last panel... hmmm what do we think now? Not Magneto. Someone rich and within the United States. Not Doom. Someone more or less human. Not Mephisto. I just don't know... If #2 brought us closer to finding out #3 took us a few steps back.

Ice

04-20-2005, 05:35 PM

I'm still holdin' on to my thought of Kingpin. I don't think it's Doom, since that's not the way Doom talks, and what's the point of changing how someone speaks just to do what you want? I did love the fight where the Excelsiors fought themselves. That was funny. And when the Runaways left, the little boy in the tin can suit thingy from before was there laying on the floor. That had me LAMO! :lol:

Overall, great issue again. 8)

Irish_4204

04-20-2005, 05:36 PM

This came out today? Oh man, I got to go out Saturday and pick it up. I love the Runaways.

TheManWithoutFear

04-20-2005, 05:37 PM

Kingpin seems like a good bet right now.

nigma

04-21-2005, 12:16 AM

i won't be able to get this till 2morrow, work #$%$@#^%$&%^, but i'm looking forward to it...

Bass

04-21-2005, 04:16 PM

It's a terrific comic.

Absolutely enchanting. Not only do we get action, humour, superheroes and superpowers, but we get real character revelations. I already feel like I know these characters after just three issues.

And, my God, do the creative love these characters. Having the owner of a genetically-engineered dinosaur not actually know what kind of dinosaur she has, having two girls tell each other how nice their hair is instead of fighting, Chamber's 'Britishness'... each character, of which there is over a dozen gets a chance to showcase themselves in all their glory. Beautifully succinct and effective.

It's a terrific comic.

As for the father - it doesn't say where he is, and I thought it might be Doom, but I really don't know. Skulls on the throne, the clock, the Christian imagery of his mother... I seriously don't know who the hell it is.

Ice

04-21-2005, 11:08 PM

As for the father - it doesn't say where he is, and I thought it might be Doom, but I really don't know. Skulls on the throne, the clock, the Christian imagery of his mother... I seriously don't know who the hell it is.
Welcome to the club.

Bass

04-22-2005, 08:59 AM

Maybe it's Kang.

:shock:

I DUNNO!

:arrgh:

TheManWithoutFear

04-22-2005, 11:01 AM

for some reason unless it's Kingpin I think it'll be a B-Lister

Bass

04-22-2005, 11:19 AM

"The greatest evil in the universe"... and it's feckin' Klaw, or Dr Demonicus.

I dunno.

I think it's ol' Doomey.

DigiEmissary

04-24-2005, 01:44 AM

I think the antiquity of the clock and phone indicates something. There must be some marvel villain with an origin in the 1800s.

I keep thinking of Sinister, but that doesn't seem right.

Ice

04-24-2005, 08:20 AM

I think the antiquity of the clock and phone indicates something. There must be some marvel villain with an origin in the 1800s.
It could just be that he collects antiques...

Bass

04-24-2005, 10:24 AM

compound

04-24-2005, 10:51 AM

Maybe a magical villain like Mordo? But yeah, I think the chair and clock are very carefully chosen so we have a hint. Obviously, none of us geeks here know who it is... but.... Clock = Time = Travel = Kang. Case closed. :crazy:I'd be convinced it was Kang, if only he weren't the major villain in two other ongoing 616 story arcs (in Young Avengers and Marvel Knights 4, for those of you not collecting those titles). That just seems like over-kill after several years of relative inactivity in the MU.

Did anybody else think the golden motif of the items was significant?

Is Baron Strucker a possibility? I know he's been considered an 'A-lister', at one point, so there wouldn't be any credibility problem there...

My guess is that Victor's dad-- whoever it is -- will NOT have a connection to the different 'worlds' represented by the Pride/the Runways (i.e. NOT magical, NOT science-based, NOT mutant, NOT an alien, and NOT a time-traveller). Since Alex is not a member of the group at the moment, it would make sense for Victor's dad to be someone crime-related, adding strength to the Kingpin argument. BUT unless Ms. Mancha is hiding something about her past, there would be no reason for Victor to have such powerful abilities, if Fisk was really his father.

Ice

04-24-2005, 02:56 PM

(in Young Avengers and Marvel Knights 4, for those of you not collecting those titles).

Actually, that's Kang's son, but that's talk for elsewhere.

Bass

05-04-2005, 05:56 PM

I just started reading the first volume and I only just managed to stop myself at #8. I love this book. It's terrific. I recommend it highly (though, maybe just get the trades and don't do what I did - which is get all but three issues and then spend ages looking for them). Not only is it fresh and exciting, but its humble and funny.

One of the funnier scenes being when all the characters decided to choose their superhero codenames.

Actually, one of the funnier scenes is the first page of #1.

But yeah, I'm loving it. Even armed with... certain foreknowledge. I've read vol 2's first three issues so I know the Pride get extinguished in some fashion, and I know Topher and Alex aren't in the second volume... which means Alex is probably the mole?! Thankfully for you guys, I'm too far behind to do a "Alex Wilder Manfiesto".

But yeah, it's a terrifice book and well worth picking up. Let's share the love of Runaways! I know there's a whole bunch of you out there who love it. Post away...

ProjectX2

05-05-2005, 12:09 AM

Yeah, I read the first 6 issues at school in the digest and it was cool. Great writing and great art. I'm waiting for the school to pick up the rest of them...

nigma

05-05-2005, 01:04 AM

glad to know i helped inspire a new geneartion 8). all thanks to one challenge

TheManWithoutFear

05-25-2005, 01:09 PM

This was a pretty good issue but was more like a filler.

Darkhawk & Company are licking their wounds and we get some interesting character development with Darkhawk. He admits that he's losing control of himself. I wonder just how long these guys will stay in this title. I'm interested. Still no word on the benefactor.

The Runaways are simply back at the tar pits going over every possible super-villain that could be Victor's father. Nothing to it but still good dialogue and pretty cool use of their parents tech.

The very end reveals who the villain is and unless there are any twists....

it's Dr. Doom!!! I don't know if I care that much. Kinda wish it was someone else.

Caduceus

05-25-2005, 02:06 PM

Thats interesting but I'm glad that it wasn't Magneto mostly.

eroz

05-25-2005, 05:03 PM

Are you sure Dr. Doom is really Victor's father?

Runaways #4
Written by Brian K. Vaughan
Penciled by Adrian Alphona
Cover by Jo Chen
Racing back to their new secret hideout beneath the La Brea Tar Pits, the Runaways must decide whether the dangerous Victor Mancha is going to be their first prisoner, or their newest member. Plus, a major Marvel Universe villain shows up claiming to be Vic's father... but is he telling the truth? Part 4 (of 6)
32 PGS./Marvel PSR …$2.99

*edit*
Ahhh didn't read that bit about the possible twist in your post.

TheManWithoutFear

05-25-2005, 05:12 PM

Are you sure Dr. Doom is really Victor's father?

*edit*
Ahhh didn't read that bit about the possible twist in your post.

That's why I thought the WHose Victor's Daddy thread should've been kept open. Two explainations...

1. That's not Doom under that mask.

2. The Child isn't Doom's but Doom experimented on him (i.e. Ultiamte Gandalf) and the child is "owned" by Doom.

Caduceus

05-25-2005, 05:54 PM

2. The Child isn't Doom's but Doom experimented on him (i.e. Ultiamte Gandalf) and the child is "owned" by Doom.
I hope you mean Geldoff, otherwise that's just way to weird.

TheManWithoutFear

05-25-2005, 07:15 PM

I hope you mean Geldoff, otherwise that's just way to weird.

haha yeah.... that's what I meant. I've been off lately. Must be because I haven't had a drink in like 2 weeks.

DigiEmissary

05-25-2005, 08:27 PM

personally, i think the Absorbing Man walked into a Doombot.

....or....

It could be Kristoff (the one that Doom chose to carry on as Doom if he died.)

Ice

05-25-2005, 08:29 PM

It could be Kristoff (the one that Doom chose to carry on as Doom if he died.)
Ahh...yes. "The boy who would be Doom".

Dr.Strangefate

05-25-2005, 08:39 PM

I think thats just solicitations screwing around, i'm pretty sure its Doctor Doom...

Maybe he's not even a kid, maybe doom made him....

*shrug* it'd explain how he'd manage the electricity attacks Doom needs his Gauntlets for.

Ultxon

05-25-2005, 10:54 PM

Personally, I really don't want the father to be Doom. Doom has always been an overused baddie and i woudl ahve prepared someone original to be behind evrything.

TheManWithoutFear

05-25-2005, 11:13 PM

Personally, I really don't want the father to be Doom. Doom has always been an overused baddie and i woudl ahve prepared someone original to be behind evrything.
I don't know about overused because I haven't dabbled much in 616 FF but I thought Vaughan was really going to wow us with who the villain was. Oh, welll...

Bass

05-26-2005, 12:12 PM

Runaways is brilliant. I was laughing all throughout this issue. I mean, Darkhawk tries to kill Ricochet, and then he and the Power Pack girl talk about the Lord of the Rings, while Gert comments on how most super villains just committed crimes against fashion.

Hysterical, wonderful work.

TheManWithoutFear

05-26-2005, 01:50 PM

because of Marianella's reaction to him. She says: "Espera, usted no es...", which translates as "Wait, you're not...", so I understand she doesn't know him/he's not the person she phoned in issue 3.

Picked that up from the Cabal. I don't think it's Doom. Someone's gonna prove that statement wrong now aren't they? :?

DigiEmissary

05-26-2005, 06:46 PM

Picked that up from the Cabal. I don't think it's Doom. Someone's gonna prove that statement wrong now aren't they? :?

That's what it translates to, as far as i know.

Maybe Doom found out about future-Gert's time-traveling message?

Goodwill

05-26-2005, 09:53 PM

Personally, I really don't want the father to be Doom. Doom has always been an overused baddie and i woudl ahve prepared someone original to be behind evrything.

I think the idea's brilliant he hasn't been around too often...

Ultimate Gambit

05-26-2005, 10:10 PM

I thought Doom was dead

Ice

05-26-2005, 10:12 PM

I thought Doom was dead
That's what they want you think!

Lol, who knows. It could've been a Doombot. Always seems to turn out to be a Doombot...

Ultimate Gambit

05-26-2005, 10:13 PM

no but Doom was jumping from boddy to..... o hell who cares

Ice

05-26-2005, 10:14 PM

no but Doom was jumping from boddy to..... o hell who cares
I do. Please explain.

Ultimate Gambit

05-26-2005, 10:22 PM

well in the Unthinkable Arc Doom gets mystical powers and uses them to try and take down The Fantastic Four and in the end Reed ends up using mystic arts and technology to beat Doom.... Then in the Authoritive Action Arc Doom comes back as like a spirit I suppose and starts to inhabit the Fantastic Fours bodys he ends up in the Things and Reed then has to "kill" the thing. (and you should know by now noone stays dead) so they get the thing back to life and Doom was seemingly destroyed so maybe I have missed and arc where he came back because I haven't collected since then...... so if he has could someone tell me how?

TheManWithoutFear

05-26-2005, 10:26 PM

Maybe it's just not Doom. And now that I learned some spanish, I don't believe it is him.

Ultxon

05-26-2005, 10:30 PM

I just had a wild idea. What if its Kang? Nothing like having a sudden Kang explosion going around in comics, right? Also, remember Kang is supposed to be realted to Doom.

Ultimate Gambit

05-26-2005, 10:40 PM

I thought Kang was also related to Reed Richards

Ice

05-26-2005, 10:45 PM

I thought Kang was also related to Reed Richards
Not really. That was just Sue saying that he could be cuz of his time traveling dad.

Ultimate Gambit

05-26-2005, 10:50 PM

I hate the Fantastic Four

Nurhachi

05-27-2005, 02:34 AM

:lol:

You idiots just made me laugh while drinking juice :furious:

DigiEmissary

05-27-2005, 01:59 PM

TheManWithoutFear

06-08-2005, 11:34 AM

Runaways #5: 7 page preview (http://www.buzzscope.com/reviews.php?id=4408)

Friday

06-08-2005, 11:36 AM

Runaways #5: 7 page preview (http://www.buzzscope.com/reviews.php?id=4408)
Not reading it, waiting for Digest, LALALALALALA

*puts fingers in ears *

Caduceus

06-08-2005, 11:50 AM

Intrusting. It looks like it really was who it looked like.

Anyone like Bax not reading it, this is a standard preview thread. Spoilers for the preview are allowed.

nigma

06-08-2005, 12:01 PM

damn, i liked it. but why can't it come out today!!!!!!!

Bass

06-08-2005, 01:04 PM

Very cool. When's it out?

TheManWithoutFear

06-08-2005, 02:17 PM

Intrusting. It looks like it really was who it looked like.
You mean you think it's Doom. I dunno I'm still holding out.

Caduceus

06-08-2005, 02:42 PM

You mean you think it's Doom. I dunno I'm still holding out.
It looks like its Doom but I wouldn't disagree that its by no means definite. I could definitely be someone else entirely.

Goodwill

06-09-2005, 08:29 AM

Caduceus

06-09-2005, 08:53 AM

What happened to Victor's purple hair? It seems the colorist tamed that a bit...

Also, I'm sold that it's Doom. If it was anyone else in that suit, it would ruin what has already been done. Who else would it be? Chameleon or something?
I wasn't thinking that it was a fake doom, more that he wasn't the father. I don't believe there's been any proof so far?

TheManWithoutFear

06-29-2005, 03:14 PM

All I have to say is... Niiiiiice

Mr. Vaughn is a crazy son of a *****.

EDIT: Er wait... that wasn't much of a discussion. Yeah, Ultrons the father. I know he's robot but I totally buy it and I think it's cool as hell.

Ultimate Gambit

06-29-2005, 03:17 PM

wait.. how the hell is Ultron the Father we need a summary MWOF I have been waiting all day

nigma

06-29-2005, 03:22 PM

when i pick this up, that going to be the 1st thing i check now."who the hell is the daddy."

TheManWithoutFear

06-29-2005, 03:28 PM

wait.. how the hell is Ultron the Father we need a summary MWOF I have been waiting all day
Not explained in detail yet. Sorry :( Is the "who's the daddy" thread closed?

Ultimate Gambit

06-29-2005, 03:30 PM

o well.... how did they reveal Ultron was the father was it just like Bam it's Ultron and I'm your father and do we know who the secret benifactor for excelsior is?

TheManWithoutFear

06-29-2005, 03:38 PM

o well.... how did they reveal Ultron was the father was it just like Bam it's Ultron and I'm your father and do we know who the secret benifactor for excelsior is?

After they took out the Doombot he steps in and reveals himself. And no we don't know who the benifactor is yet.

nigma

06-29-2005, 03:47 PM

After they took out the Doombot he steps in and reveals himself. And no we don't know who the benifactor is yet.

i'm not up to snuff on my avengers...but wasn't ultron killed?

TheManWithoutFear

06-29-2005, 03:51 PM

i'm not up to snuff on my avengers...
neither am I...

Bass

06-30-2005, 04:36 PM

I swear to God, when we found out that Doom was a Doombot and a mechanically-voiced guy who wasn't Doom was behind it... I thought it was Arnim Zola.

For a second.

Anyhow, it's a bit cheap, at least Doom had a slight set up. But Doom was written so beautifully, I can't be upset about anything. BKV's a damn load of fun.

Chase is damn fine too. His laser plan was brilliant.

And Molly is the best Runaway. I love her.

Bass

06-30-2005, 04:44 PM

neither am I...

Ultron died in "Disassembled". But then, so did my respect for Bendis' writing ability. It was all bollocks. I'm glad BKV doesn't seem to care, and is using him regardless.

And God, BKV wrote a damn fine Doom. These are the insults he gave in one issue: cow, accursed urchins, prehistoric beast, ignorant whelp, miserable dwarfling, harlot, and hotheaded arrogant young imbecile.

Plus, every other speech bubble is him saying how he will enjoying obliterating and dismembering the group and how unbelivably brilliant he is.

*sigh* Why did he have to be a Doombot...

DigiEmissary

06-30-2005, 09:06 PM

i'm not up to snuff on my avengers...but wasn't ultron killed?

he's a robot. You can't "kill" him. Put him out of comission maybe, but something as smart as that is going to leave some spare bodies well-hidden.

TheManWithoutFear

06-30-2005, 09:06 PM

Thanks for that Bass. I also want to thank whoever it was that got me into this title. It really never fails and is easily my 2nd favorite.

nigma

07-02-2005, 04:59 AM

I also want to thank whoever it was that got me into this title. It really never fails and is easily my 2nd favorite.

your to kind to me 8) you really are.

after reading this....damn it makes me wonder if Vic himself is a robot.

Ice

07-05-2005, 11:20 PM

Review shown on Newsarama on the issue:

Runaways #5
From: Marvel
Writer: Brian K. Vaughn
Art: Adrian Alphona and Craig Yeung
Review by Corey Henson

In the latest issue of this excellent series, the Runaways finally confront Victor Mancha’s villainous father, revealed to be one Victor Von Doom, Ph.D (that’s Dr. Doom to you and me). Of course, this being a Brian K. Vaughan comic, there’s a surprise or two in store for our heroes, and this issue delivers a couple of major shocks, including a hell of a cliffhanger that‘s guaranteed to bring readers back for the next issue. And if, for some reason, the last page isn’t enough to get you to plunk down your hard-earned $3 next month to find out what happened, there’s the promise of yet another confrontation with Excelsior, and the impending unmasking of their mysterious benefactor (the signs may all point to former Runaway Alex, but I’m betting BKV has something less obvious in store for the big reveal).

In case you couldn’t tell, I’m totally loving this book. With both Marvel and DC seemingly in the midst of crossover addictions, all I want is a few good superhero comics that I don’t need years of obscure continuity burned into my synapses to understand. Runaways definitely qualifies, thanks to Vaughan’s stellar characterization, snappy sense of humor and uncanny knack for writing irresistible cliffhangers. And when you’ve got one of the best writers in the business bringing his “A” game month in and month out, you need a stellar art team to compliment the story. Penciller Adrian Alphona, inker Craig Yeung, colorist Christina Strain, and cover artist Jo Chen combine like Voltron to create what is arguably Marvel’s best-looking book.

It warmed the cockles of my heart to see Marvel chief Joe Quesada call Runaways a “certifiable hit” in the latest edition of Joe Fridays. Marvel should be commended for their commitment to helping this tremendous series find an audience, even during the times when the sales may not have warranted such love.

No way is Alex coming back. Guy was incenerated. Nothing but dust in the wind.....literally.

TheManWithoutFear

07-27-2005, 05:20 PM

What's up with you guys? Am I the only one who goes to the LCS every Wednesday and reads and wants to discuss immediately? I'm a little late today because Bobbo just had surgery and is in the hospital so I spent most of the day there. :(

Anyway, Let's get on with it.

Vaughan is my favorite writer. He rarely disappoints and his creations and spins on most characters are probably the most unique out of any others...

Runaways #6 was awesome.

Victor is a cyborg that is gradually turning human... I thought that was cool.

The kids realize they can't handle a big of a threat like Ultron so they purposely let "Chamber" & Company find them. Darkhawk takes out Ultron and Victor snaps out of it. Action was solid as it always is.

"Chamber" let's the runaways get away again and looks like Vic is added to the roster but will be watched carefully.

Exclesior (however u spell it) are going to keep an eye on California as what I took as a new sub-group of the Avengers.

The secret benefactor is revealed as Rick Jones looking to help kids like him so they won't have the same crazy teenage life that he had. He's being supported by The Avengers.

The big shocker.... Chamber was never a part of the team. This is sad because I liked the character a lot but the reveal made up for it and then some... Alex is still alive and he's working with some new people.... "Long Live The Pride." You don't see their faces but one of them is very large, another has a "Magneto was right" shirt, and the other looks like an girl (probably of oriental origins) Any guesses? Mine - Blob could be the big guy easily, I'm not jumping at the others but I can't wait to see them again.

Awesome conclusion! Love BKV!

Ice

07-27-2005, 06:25 PM

Some people got jobs, y'know, so no one is going to run.

Anyways, great issue. Loved it. Rick Jones being the secret guy was cool. Was expecting someone different, but it's all cool. That was one hell of a bang that took out Ultron. Thought it was awesome. And with Alex being alive...WO! :shock:

Can't wait to see them! :D

TheManWithoutFear

07-27-2005, 09:05 PM

I don't know why I didn't think of it but everyone else over the net has.

Alex's team... The gamers he was playing with in Vol. 1

Ice

07-27-2005, 09:11 PM

Alex's team... The gamers he was playing with in Vol. 1
Interesting. They are a possibility. Nice thinking. I can defitnetly see them being used for the series.

TheManWithoutFear

07-27-2005, 09:17 PM

Interesting. They are a possibility. Nice thinking. I can defitnetly see them being used for the series.
+ Vaughan said we'd be seeing them.

Ice

07-27-2005, 09:18 PM

+ Vaughan said we'd be seeing them.
That's right!

*Slaps self*

I mean, 4 people all together. 4 people it was when they began playing the game in volume 1. It makes sense. Damn, I love this book. :heart:

Bass

07-28-2005, 11:22 AM

I'm ecstatic happy Victor is now on the team. I love it when an enjoyable character actually sticks around. :D

I hope we see Excelsior soon, they're loads of fun, and yes, :cry: Chamber wasn't really Chamber, but I'm looking forward to the pay-off! And it may not be Alex, but considering the 4 mmorg gamers, it most likely is him and his friends.

It's all good. :D

Irish_4204

07-28-2005, 11:35 AM

The big shocker.... Chamber was never a part of the team. This is sad because I liked the character a lot but the reveal made up for it and then some... Alex is still alive and he's working with some new people.... "Long Live The Pride." You don't see their faces but one of them is very large, another has a "Magneto was right" shirt, and the other looks like an girl (probably of oriental origins) Any guesses? Mine - Blob could be the big guy easily, I'm not jumping at the others but I can't wait to see them again.

The big guy in the new pride looks like the Victor's friend he was talking to earlier in the book about fan boy stuff (maybe issue 1), which makes me think that they'll try slowly draw Vic into this new pride.

I love the dialogue about how all kids are programmed by their parents, and how Victor is no different. I loved that.

Great issue.

TheManWithoutFear

07-28-2005, 11:36 AM

How'd Nico's spell work?

Maybe it didn't. Maybe Alex was alive or brought himself back the entire time. And Nico still has one saving life spell left... this would be interesting for a future arc.

Also we started seeing a lot of new heroes (Runaways, Arana, Machine Teen) Marvel Next ya know? I'm pretty pumped about Alex and I hope as they show The Runaways grow they show Alex grow into one of the greatest villains in Marvel history. That'd just be awesome and deserving because Alex is supposed to be brilliant.

nigma

08-02-2005, 01:14 AM

just got it today...DAMN it was wonderfull. i have never been so happy to get an issue. this was the last one that was left on the rack. and its all MINE, MINE, I tell you.

its funny how gert was the only one that was left awake while daddy Ultron was telling Victor his orgin....this might lead to something... and im posting in this also in the great lines from comics: from gret while being squeezed after ultrons done talking. "i 'ehn' should have known. nothing more Evil 'ehn' than a non-mac computer"

I love the whole speech of Dawkhawk with Ultron. if i had the time i would write the whole comic in script form...but i don't

Dr.Strangefate

08-02-2005, 02:18 PM

maybe the crazy giant things brought him back to form a New Pride.

nigma

08-02-2005, 03:03 PM

that would be cool, those giant things were kinda cool loooking

thee great one

08-10-2005, 10:53 PM

here's a preview for Runaways 7 and a preview for New Avengers #9

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=40284

Ice

08-10-2005, 10:55 PM

I miss Alphona and Cho. :cry:

Cool preview, though.

But I miss Alphona and Cho. :cry:

TheManWithoutFear

08-11-2005, 01:07 AM

Awesome preview... !!! Swarm!?.... like what other writer would use these kinds of characters only the best BKV!!

What's really crazy is I find the art really appropriate for this title... I wasn't crazy about the previous art because it looked like everyone had "long faces" but I consider this a book that's associated more with a younger generation (My cousins love this title) and think the art is fitting. I can't wait for more Runaways.

nigma

08-11-2005, 04:10 AM

i like the story, but im not digging the art at all. i've gotten use to alp, they just look to cartooney for me.

ProjectX2

08-11-2005, 04:13 AM

I'm going to try talk my sister into Runaways again...

nigma

08-11-2005, 04:18 AM

did she collect it or trying to have her start?

ProjectX2

08-11-2005, 04:28 AM

did she collect it or trying to have her start?

I had the first trade borrowed and thought she'd enjoy it. I think she read some of it and then got bored.

nigma

08-11-2005, 04:52 AM

I had the first trade borrowed and thought she'd enjoy it. I think she read some of it and then got bored.

BORED!!!!!, oh well its one of those, you either love the brats and are with them all the way, or you think there just being dumb and stupid until the very last arc of 1 where you love them again.

nigma

08-16-2005, 04:22 AM

Anybody got any theories on how Alex made it out. after re-reading i noticed how Big V writes, something along the lines of 'im a game master, i've pulling the stings since day 1' and when his dad tries to take the hit he takes it instead. but.....did he really take the hit?

heres the things Alex was the only one that was reading the book of the pride. with the ring and decoding it. and didn't the book of the pride also tell of the past, present and future? so, if it did tell the future then that's what he was reading and knew what would happen and how to solve it. and if he could get a call out to the crocked cop (clock and dagger), then why not his net 'buddies' and tell them what was going down. and those that is how he survived, and the other parents might have made it out alive as well. why did he relase Nico, he knew she would wake up the others and do what she did, he knew it all along.

any comments?

TheManWithoutFear

08-16-2005, 12:42 PM

nigma

08-17-2005, 05:44 PM

I'm sure since there's a great deal of emphasis on Alex's strategic intelligence that he saved himself somehow. The reason Nico's spell didn't work was because he wasn't dead. How Alex did it is in the hands of Vaughn but I can't wait to read it. I don't want to see the rest of the Pride revived though.

i can't wait either, but knowing V, hes gonna make us wait for a while. and i think it would be cool to see some of the dead pride members come back. not all of them, but some of them.

TheManWithoutFear

08-31-2005, 03:21 PM

Swarm was cool as seen in the preview.

We then go to the runaways spending some cash and time together.

Chase and Gert are going bargain shopping and Chase is threatened by Vic and Gert's feeling's for him. Gert assures Chase she only likes him and they make out in a changing room... very cool.

Vic and Molly are food shopping and Vic wants to know if the rest of the team is scared he's going to go "hay-wire" again. Molly just wants Cereal.

Karolina and Nico are walking through a park where they're checking out the stars. Karolina makes a move and Nico's taken back. Personally, I really don't think Nico should go for it. We already know she's into guys... Alex and the Vampire. But Karolina's whining about how she doesn't belong is inturrupted when a Skrull (?) comes to Earth and announces that he's Karolina's fiancee.

Never a fan of Runaways Art in the first place so the change is welcomed but it is a bit cartoony.
4/5

nigma

08-31-2005, 03:30 PM

i won't get this til the weekend. so nothing tooo interseting uh? no mention of ?alex? or the west coast 'avengers?'

TheManWithoutFear

08-31-2005, 03:31 PM

i won't get this til the weekend. so nothing tooo interseting uh? no mention of ?alex? or the west coast 'avengers?'

Nope. But I'm not really too upset about that. Vaughan's probably going to hit us with those storylines when we're not expecting it. Actually when the Skrull ship lands Nico asks if it's one of Excelsior's ships.

nigma

08-31-2005, 03:35 PM

have they said how long V. 2 is slated for? like V. 1 was 18 issues (i think). at least that way we know who long we have to wait. guess i'll find out the rest when i pick it this weekend

Ice

08-31-2005, 09:21 PM

Alrighty, im taking this one by the numbers...

1.) It's a Super Skrull. Regular Skrulls dont have powers like the one that showed up. The regulars only shapeshift.

2.) Alphona's art has ALWAYS been awesome. Can't really see why people wouldn't be into it. It's great. Makes the characters look more interesting. The art I don't like.

3.) We JUST got something about Alex. You guys really think we would get something the VERY NEXT ISSUE? Come on! Gotta live up the suspense. Nothing will be dropped ALL the time. The person that was secretly with Emma, nothing was mentioned on that someone EVERY issue or anything.

4.) This volume is going to keep on going, non-stop. Full ride all the way!

Overall, a cool issue. Liked having them relax for a bit from action, before coming right back to action. A little break always does good once in a while.

TheManWithoutFear

08-31-2005, 09:26 PM

It's not a "Super-Skrull" (See preview for next ish) he's training to be one.

Ice

08-31-2005, 09:27 PM

It's not a "Super-Skrull" (See preview for next ish) he's training to be one.
Alright, alright. Havent seen the preview.

Friday

09-01-2005, 06:39 AM

Guess what I picked up today? Runaways #7!

It was good. I'm looking forward to my copy of the V4 Digest shipping so I can get more of Victor's backstory, but this issue made me smile more than most of "Season 1" did. And it was The Swarm man! Nazi radioactive bug man! He's one of my favorite marvel villians!

...dude, we need Ultimate Swarm!

Bass

09-02-2005, 08:48 PM

This issue was great fun! :D

Fuzzy Birds

09-03-2005, 02:38 PM

I have to say, although Alphonas art is great great great, Miyazawa is one fill in artist who I'm always happy to see. Very nice and simple, but energetic too. In particular, the attempted kiss scene looked great, Karolina looked really sweet and clumsy.

And Ice, who says that was Alex last issue? Personally I don't think it is. Although it would be great to see him as a recurring 'enemy', I really doubt Vaughan would bring him back, at least so early.

By the way, if you guys are interested, if you head over to Marvel.com before Sep 8th you can submit a question to Mr Vaughan himself. I just did, so why don't you? Eh?

Ice

09-03-2005, 03:12 PM

And Ice, who says that was Alex last issue? Personally I don't think it is. Although it would be great to see him as a recurring 'enemy', I really doubt Vaughan would bring him back, at least so early.
Oh, it's him. Just wait and see. :wink:

:D

Fuzzy Birds

09-03-2005, 03:20 PM

Oh, it's him. Just wait and see. :wink:

:D

What are you all of a sudden? Vaughan's love buddy? Just because you know how to spell his name better than most people on this site, doesn't mean you know his deepest, most sordid secrets!

Wow. Sorry about that, I kinda went all Hulk. Tore my pants and everything. Tsk.

Ice

09-03-2005, 03:23 PM

What are you all of a sudden? Vaughan's love buddy? Just because you know how to spell his name better than most people on this site, doesn't mean you know his deepest, most sordid secrets!

Wow. Sorry about that, I kinda went all Hulk. Tore my pants and everything. Tsk.
But seriously, think about it. If anyone wonders how he came back, one possiblity is Nico's spell. Say it actually worked, but just he never showed up wherever she thought he would. Or the other guys at that room could have brought him back. We may not have a face, but the body matches.

I'm not the only one who thinks its him. Others know what I'm "on". :wink:

Fuzzy Birds

09-03-2005, 03:26 PM

But seriously, think about it. If anyone wonders how he came back, one possiblity is Nico's spell. Say it actually worked, but just he never showed up wherever she thought he would. Or the other guys at that room could have brought him back. We may not have a face, but the body matches.

I'm not the only one who thinks its him. Others know what I'm "on". :wink:

Yeah, I suppose. Because you know, there's only one black person in the Marvel Universe. :wink:

Ice

09-03-2005, 03:30 PM

Yeah, I suppose. Because you know, there's only one black person in the Marvel Universe. :wink:
You know what I mean. Compare his body now to volume 1's. Looks like we have someone in denial.

And come on. He all the reasons to do what he did. He doesnt want the others guys to know hes back. So what he does? He disguises himself to 'spy' on them. See how they are now. And reports back on the team he's working with to let them know what he found out, and they can figure out a plan on how to stop them. And you cant forget about "Long Live the Pride.."

There's so many things that makes it him!

Fuzzy Birds

09-03-2005, 03:35 PM

You know what I mean. Compare his body now to volume 1's. Looks like we have someone in denial.

And come on. He all the reasons to do what he did. He doesnt want the others guys to know hes back. So what he does? He disguises himself to 'spy' on them. See how they are now. And reports back on the team he's working with to let them know what he found out, and they can figure out a plan on how to stop them. And you cant forget about "Long Live the Pride."

There's so many things that makes it him!

Which is exactly why it may not be him. Think about it, the reveal is likely to be a huge thing, would Vaughan really make such a small matter of it by only showing a black body? It's obvious that everyone would jump to the conclusion of Alex at the sight of a black person working with the Pride, so why didn't Vaughan just show his face too? Because it likely isn't him, and Vaughan is purposefully leading us the wrong way.

Of course, I'm not saying you're wrong, and I admit it could very well be him, I just can't see how you can be so sure.

Ice

09-03-2005, 03:37 PM

Which is exactly why it may not be him. Think about it, the reveal is likely to be a huge thing, would Vaughan really make such a small matter of it by only showing a black body? It's obvious that everyone would jump to the conclusion of Alex at the sight of a black person working with the Pride, so why didn't Vaughan just show his face too? Because it likely isn't him, and Vaughan is purposefully leading us the wrong way.

Of course, I'm not saying you're wrong, and I admit it could very well be him, I just can't see how you can be so sure.
Because Vaughan is such a damn tease.

It may not be him, but the clues are right there. I'll stick with it being him until there's actually SOMETHING that gives it "saying" it's not him.

And I want Alphona back!!! :cry:

Fuzzy Birds

09-03-2005, 03:42 PM

Because Vaughan is such a damn tease.

Exactly. Look, Vaughan knew that almost everyone reading that comic would IMMEDIATELY jump to the conclusion that it was Alex. Now, if it really was Alex, why not just reveal it there? Otherwise the real reveal in however many issues would be completely anti climactic because everyone knew it was him anyway. As an exercise in dramatic writing, it doesn't make sense. Unless.... it's a red herring.

Ice

09-03-2005, 03:44 PM

Exactly. Look, Vaughan knew that almost everyone reading that comic would IMMEDIATELY jump to the conclusion that it was Alex. Now, if it really was Alex, why not just reveal it there? Otherwise the real reveal in however many issues would be completely anti climactic because everyone knew it was him anyway. As an exercise in dramatic writing, it doesn't make sense. Unless.... it's a red herring.
Or maybe he wants you to think THAT. A double-bluff! :wink:

Fuzzy Birds

09-03-2005, 04:00 PM

Or maybe he wants you to think THAT. A double-bluff! :wink:

Alright, you've silenced me. But believe me, you will hear from me again. If it's the last thing I ever do!

*cackles mischievously*

TheManWithoutFear

09-03-2005, 04:12 PM

Definitely believe that it's Alex. But I'm willing to bet there's a possibility of a physical difference in him. It would be really cool to see something that makes him actually look evil... like some kind of scar. Or really just the fact that he showed some skin and the "Long Live the Pride" statement was really all everyone needed to be like that's just so ****ing cool. If he showed the face it would have lost something in the revealation. The delivery was very genius.

Ice

09-03-2005, 04:17 PM

nigma

09-12-2005, 04:41 AM

the art doesn't work for me, but for the type of arc thats written it fits in pretty good. and yes we don't know if its alex for sure or not, but its hinted in V's style. (not even going to try spelling his name)look at the twist and tuns in Y: the last man... who is this miss M?

overall its a good start, makes it intersting to say the least

TheManWithoutFear

09-22-2005, 12:22 AM

Well I could focus on the issue because the clerks were giving me dirty looks.. Need cash...

But yeah, Karolina is gone now. How about that?

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09-22-2005, 05:15 PM

Okay, raise your hands, True Believers, if you've either read or watched A Clockwork Orange -- the Burgess novel, or the Kubrick film, doesn't matter.

If you love it as much as I do, then surely, you would have noticed the sly bit of foreshadowing in Runaways #6 -- when "Chamber" is waiting outside the building where the fight against "Doom" and Ultron is taking place, he says something about standing aside and letting "his droogs" do all the work, a reference to the fake 'Nadsat' slang from A Clockwork Orange. So, what is the name of the protagonist from the story again? And more importantly, which character was established in Runaways Vol. 1 as being a fan of twisted British pop culture, like The Prisoner? ;)

Please PLEASE tell me I'm not reading too much into this little detail! :D

Caduceus

09-22-2005, 05:27 PM

Ultimate Gambit

09-22-2005, 05:48 PM

so did Karolina die?

TheManWithoutFear

09-22-2005, 06:37 PM

so did Karolina die?
No she left with the Skrull. I duno the details apparently if she didn't millions would die. But the semi-super skrull wasn't such a bad guy and wanted to make Karolina happy. He turns into a female for her.

Bass

09-22-2005, 09:23 PM

I was genuinely surprised to see Karolina leave. I'm glad she did. Not because I disliked her, I liked her, but because it's actually a change.

And I'm glad Vik is still on the team.

Okay, raise your hands, True Believers, if you've either read or watched A Clockwork Orange -- the Burgess novel, or the Kubrick film, doesn't matter.

If you love it as much as I do, then surely, you would have noticed the sly bit of foreshadowing in Runaways #6 -- when "Chamber" is waiting outside the building where the fight against "Doom" and Ultron is taking place, he says something about standing aside and letting "his droogs" do all the work, a reference to the fake 'Nadsat' slang from A Clockwork Orange. So, what is the name of the protagonist from the story again? And more importantly, which character was established in Runaways Vol. 1 as being a fan of twisted British pop culture, like The Prisoner? ;)

Please PLEASE tell me I'm not reading too much into this little detail! :D

GOOD CATCH

TheManWithoutFear

09-22-2005, 10:24 PM

I'll tell you what I don't like. Nico's reaction. She's not a lesbian and I like how Karolina was lonely with the team. Nico shouldn't be so upset that it showed she had those kinds of feelings for her.

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09-23-2005, 08:52 AM

I was genuinely surprised to see Karolina leave. I'm glad she did. Not because I disliked her, I liked her, but because it's actually a change.I kinda saw it coming, actually -- when Future-Gert first arrives in issue #1, she mentioned something like "Karolina is still here, so this must be 2004".

For some reason, that line stuck with me, when I read the solicitations for #8, about Karolina needing to make the 'ultimate sacrifice' for the group (or soemthing along those lines). First thing that came to mind: she'll be off to find her home-planet.

Incidentally, her sudden departure really makes me feel like I'm reading classic New Mutants issues (circa the Demon Bear stuff), considering the racial and gender diversity of the kids, and how fragile their memebership of the group is.

TheManWithoutFear

09-23-2005, 04:07 PM

Regardless of her leaving you know she'll be back. This definitely didn't have a permenant feel to it.

Bass

09-23-2005, 08:18 PM

I kinda saw it coming, actually -- when Future-Gert first arrives in issue #1, she mentioned something like "Karolina is still here, so this must be 2004".

For some reason, that line stuck with me, when I read the solicitations for #8, about Karolina needing to make the 'ultimate sacrifice' for the group (or soemthing along those lines). First thing that came to mind: she'll be off to find her home-planet.

Incidentally, her sudden departure really makes me feel like I'm reading classic New Mutants issues (circa the Demon Bear stuff), considering the racial and gender diversity of the kids, and how fragile their memebership of the group is.

I didn't read the solits, and didn't remember the line. That's great though. I didn't see it coming.

And, you're right MWOF, if Alex is back, she'll definately be back - but the Runaways don't know it, and it's nice to have the roster shaken up in a way that doesn't involve a big bad raping someone.

That said - I had this terrible feeling that after she left, we get an 'epilogue' and we discover Xavin was lying and she's being taken back as a trophy/ slave/ criminal because she's one of the only remaining members of her race and she's gonna be executed... (not that she wouldn't somehow, y'know... runaway...)

nigma

09-28-2005, 07:39 PM

TheManWithoutFear

09-28-2005, 08:23 PM

i thought this was a pretty good issue, still hated the art though. but i liked how it ended, it was fitting the way that you just see one of the members just leave. now its off to NYC, but if cloak and dagger had there minds erased then how will they remember the kids?

Can I get a full summary please? I try my best when I post for you guys. And I got caught up and didn't reach the LCS today.

nigma

09-28-2005, 08:26 PM

Can I get a full summary please? I try my best when I post for you guys. And I got caught up and didn't reach the LCS today.

no one else gets one, i'll get one for you tonight when i get home.

Friday

09-28-2005, 08:41 PM

Well, I got True Believers (V4 Digest) today. I'll probably throw my thoughs up later after I've read it.

And XTF (I love calling you that :lol:), in the last two issues we had the team take down The Swarm (One of my favorite marvel villians) and then go shopping. At the end of 7 we found out that Karolina was set up in an arranged marriage to a super-skrull oin training. In 8 she learned that her race and the skrulls have been locked in a pretty nasty war since her parents sold out the planets location. After a bit of soul searching she decided to go with the skrull in an attempt to bring peace to the two nations.

I've got a bad feeling about this....

TheManWithoutFear

09-28-2005, 08:52 PM

ProjectX2

10-05-2005, 07:07 PM

Okay, I finally got all four digests. Great series. Love all the kids. Did anyone else catch that Karolina's parents were making deals with a Skrull in Season 1 and then in Season 2 she leaves with one?

Anyway, going with the 'Alex's new Pride are his MMORPG friends' means that one of them is missing. In the start of Season 1, it showed in the MMORPG, Captain America, Invisible Woman, Spider-Man, Daredevil and the Hulk. As Alex came back to his hideout, there were only 3 other people. Which means that one of the MMORPG guys is not there, or isn't part of their group.

TheManWithoutFear

10-05-2005, 08:26 PM

ProjectX2

10-06-2005, 12:24 AM

That's what you get for reading them all in one sitting... great observations Project. The MMORPG is probably the guy being Daredevil. He/She is obviously too cool for Alex and his crew.

Plus, he's probably busy with his cousin's retarded girlfriend. :wink:

If anyone can remember that... I'll definately be picking up the rest of the digests from now on.

ProjectX2

10-06-2005, 12:52 AM

Another observation...

Gert's dad, when discovering that the 'runaways' have the Abstract, says "Once they'll read it, they'll know everything! Our past! Our plans for the Next Wave!"

Anyone notice the title of Ellis' next book? NEXT WAVE.

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10-06-2005, 09:00 AM

I mean, 4 people all together. 4 people it was when they began playing the game in volume 1. It makes sense. Damn, I love this book. :heart:
I'm dead set against this explanation -- if one of them is really a mutant supremacist (the guy with the "Magneto Was Right" t-shirt), wouldn't it make sense that he'd play as a mutant character (Wolvie is the most obvious choice) in the MMORPG?

But perhaps he was just using the t-shirt out of irony, hehehe? Kids these days!

Ice

10-06-2005, 09:18 AM

I'm dead set against this explanation -- if one of them is really a mutant supremacist (the guy with the "Magneto Was Right" t-shirt), wouldn't it make sense that he'd play as a mutant character (Wolvie is the most obvious choice) in the MMORPG?

But perhaps he was just using the t-shirt out of irony, hehehe? Kids these days!
Or maybe he was just wearing the shirt.

And like I told PX2, that was a good catch on the number of kids. Coulda sworn I remembered 4.

TheManWithoutFear

10-14-2005, 03:05 PM

So Decimation...

Molly's a mutant right?

Bass

10-14-2005, 03:10 PM

And here we see just why House of M means **** all.

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10-14-2005, 03:12 PM

So Decimation...

Molly's a mutant right?I'd prefer if Vaughn just happily disregards this ;)

If it *must* happen, then I hope reality is altered so drastically that a different mutant character takes Molly's place and it seems like nobody else notices. That would be hilarious. No, actually...

Let's just hope she's one of the 187 (or however many there are).

TheManWithoutFear

10-14-2005, 03:27 PM

I'd prefer if Vaughn just happily disregards this ;)

If it *must* happen, then I hope reality is altered so drastically that a different mutant character takes Molly's place and it seems like nobody else notices. That would be hilarious. No, actually...

Let's just hope she's one of the 187 (or however many there are).

I'd rather he'd not "disregard" it and it's totally out of character for BKV to do so. The simple solution would be since Molly enjoys her powers so much, she'd get bummed after losing them. Nico uses the staff of One and gets Molly's powers back.

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10-14-2005, 03:30 PM

I'd rather he'd not "disregard" it and it's totally out of character for BKV to do so. The simple solution would be since Molly enjoys her powers so much, she'd get bummed after losing them. Nico uses the staff of One and gets Molly's powers back.That's ridiculously simple, but it actually works!

Except now you get into the one HUGE problem that Vaughn has mercifully avoided, so far -- to what extent can Nico use the Staff to bend reality? If she can fix Molly, couldn't she just jump-start ALL mutants who formerly possessed the X-gene, with a single spell?

ProjectX2

10-14-2005, 04:10 PM

I think Vaughan is picking each of the Runaways off. Soon, there shall be none left!

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10-14-2005, 04:12 PM

I think Vaughan is picking each of the Runaways off. Soon, there shall be none left!Yes, then Victor alone will be Victorious!

:roll:

TheManWithoutFear

10-14-2005, 06:10 PM

That's ridiculously simple, but it actually works!

Except now you get into the one HUGE problem that Vaughn has mercifully avoided, so far -- to what extent can Nico use the Staff to bend reality? If she can fix Molly, couldn't she just jump-start ALL mutants who formerly possessed the X-gene, with a single spell?
It doesn't have to be bending reality... Wanda could've said that and mutants just lost their powers. Nico in turn doesn't reverse reality back but simply grants Molly her powers back.

Fredrik Martinsson

10-14-2005, 07:38 PM

NRAMA: "Dash-Dot" continues: "2). How will mutant characters not involved with X-Books or New Avengers be affected by this change?

"For example, both Princess Powerful and Ricochet, currently featured in Runaways, are mutants. Did they make the cut or will they be affected?

"Likewise, the Great Lakes Avengers/Great Lakes X-Men, who will be featured in a Christmas special later this year. They're all mutants, so will they still be around?"

JQ: See, after all of this whole Joe Fridays where I get to divulge so much you ask me the one question that I'm going to have to give you a "Wait and see" on.

Wait and see...
OK. That was helpful. :roll: *Crawles back under the rock he came from.*

Ice

10-14-2005, 07:45 PM

OK. That was helpful. :roll: *Crawles back under the rock he came from.*
It's just like the "Stay Tuned"- it sucks, but we just gotta suck it up cuz that means they would spoil something that we can't find out for a couple months.

*Sigh*.... :cry:

ProjectX2

10-14-2005, 07:48 PM

I hope we don't lose Princess Powerful, she rocks.

Ice

10-14-2005, 07:51 PM

I hope we don't lose Princess Powerful, she rocks.
Indeed she does.

:heybaby:

ProjectX2

10-14-2005, 07:55 PM

Indeed she does.

:heybaby:

You pedophile!

Ice

10-14-2005, 08:01 PM

You pedophile!
Hey! Hey! She's 18! She said so!

Caduceus

10-14-2005, 08:15 PM

Hey! Hey! She's 18! She said so!
Isn't she meant to be like....14? Because I say I'm 18 all the time. That doesn't mean its true.

ProjectX2

10-14-2005, 08:19 PM

I'm pretty sure she's still 11...:roll:

Ice

10-14-2005, 08:21 PM

I'm pretty sure she's still 11...:roll:
I think you're confusing her with Molly. When they had the meeting, they said that they were now grown up, from USED TO BEING superheroes.

So :roll: to you!

TheManWithoutFear

10-14-2005, 09:08 PM

OK. That was helpful. :roll: *Crawles back under the rock he came from.*There's no chance we're gonna lose these characters.

ProjectX2

10-15-2005, 03:33 AM

What are you talking about Ice? Princess Powerful is Molly!:roll:

EDIT: I hate this new edit system... And who cares what they say, you pedophile. ;)

Ice

10-15-2005, 09:36 AM

What are you talking about Ice? Princess Powerful is Molly!:roll:

EDIT: I hate this new edit system... And who cares what they say, you pedophile. ;)
Why did you ruin my secret!! There are those who didnt know that!

Now Im going to jail. Thanks. Bubba's gonna be my cell mate... :cry:

I still wanna punch Cap'n A.

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10-16-2005, 02:16 PM

Now Im going to jail. Thanks. Bubba's gonna be my cell mate... :cry:

I still wanna punch Cap'n A.Don't worry, you'll get your chance soon enough, my friend. You won't have to suffer very long -- I understand big jailbreaks a VERY common these days. Triskelion, the Raft, all those other supposedly impenetrable prisons... send in a couple of upgraded D-listers, the whole thing goes to sh!t pretty quick.

You'll all be headed to the (mostly) super-hero-free stomping grounds of L.A., to reunite with your precious jailbait, in no time, buddy.

Friday

10-16-2005, 04:35 PM

That's ridiculously simple, but it actually works!

Except now you get into the one HUGE problem that Vaughn has mercifully avoided, so far -- to what extent can Nico use the Staff to bend reality? If she can fix Molly, couldn't she just jump-start ALL mutants who formerly possessed the X-gene, with a single spell?
Not really. One of her limitations is the One Spell Once rule, so theres a good chance that if she pointed at Molly and said Mutate that she wouldn't be able to do a mass mutation.

TheManWithoutFear

10-16-2005, 05:04 PM

Not really. One of her limitations is the One Spell Once rule, so theres a good chance that if she pointed at Molly and said Mutate that she wouldn't be able to do a mass mutation.That's all right I just wanted to solve Molly's problem not the entire mutants. Besides the runaways don't care about anyone but themselves. Nico probably wouldn't jump at helping everyone get their powers back.

TheManWithoutFear

10-16-2005, 06:19 PM

A bit of a leaked summary for RUNAWAYS 2 #9 from one of the men over at Ultimate-X.com who gets issues before anyone else... I'm so ****in' jealous.

But yeah, read at your own risk.

Cloak is being accused of beating the tar out of Dagger, allegedly on camera. After being punched in the head by Luke Cage he remembers "the young ones" and telemeports to LA.
Meanwhile, Gert Chase Molly and Victor are playing Monopoly, Victor's the racecar because he likes palindromes, and Chase wants to be the "shotglass" because he's an idiot. Chase asks Gert what she sees in him and she pretty much dodges the question. Laters, Chase finds Nico clearing out Karolina's stuff. She tells him it didn't hurt this badly when she found out her 'rents\Alex were evil, and wonders why. Chase is about to say something, when the intruder alarm goes off, and Cloak appears in the 'main room'. He tells the gang something's up, and also mentions he still feels the evil presence he mentioned waaaaay back last time he met our fun lovin' heros. Explaining the situaion (as well as Molly calling Victor a "guest star, and not even a special one" best line in the book) our Runaways decide to go help cloak in NY. "FIELD TRIP!!!" Looks like it's gonna be a hell of an issue.

ProjectX2

10-16-2005, 10:55 PM

A bit of a leaked summary for RUNAWAYS 2 #9 from one of the men over at Ultimate-X.com who gets issues before anyone else... I'm so ****in' jealous.

But yeah, read at your own risk.

Looks like it's gonna be a hell of an issue.

Cloak is beating Dazzler? Does he mean Dagger?

TheManWithoutFear

10-16-2005, 11:15 PM

Cloak is beating Dazzler? Does he mean Dagger?

Yes he does. Sorry I have to fix some of his typos

TheManWithoutFear

10-19-2005, 03:55 PM

Cloak's been framed and The New Avengers think he beat Dazzler down. After running from Cap in the hospital. Spider-Woman confronts him. He says so it's true the Avengers are back. I forget how he takes care of her but he lands and is face to face with Luke Cage. "Et tu Luke" he says. Good line. Luke punches him in the head, Cloak says "The children" and disappears.

The runaways are at their base playing monopoly. Chase refers to the Thimble as a shot glass. Chase leaves the table and Victor asks Gert what she sees in him.

Chase finds Nico in Karolina's room clearing her stuff out. Nico's bummed, Chase comforts/flirts with her. He's about to tell him about something bad he's done in the past when they hear a scream and Chase says it's probably Victor going evil on them.

They get downstairs and Molly and Victor are arguing about the "free parking" rule in the game.

Cloak appears and says he remembers them because Luke punched him. (Lame) They ask how he found them and he says one of their evil imprints they left behind he followed and used as a tracking device. They said it was probably Alex's. He says it seems like it is still there and that's how he found them.

Cloak tells them what's up with Dagger and how he's being hunter and asks for their help. They agree and Cloak takes them up in his cloak to provide transportation. Molly yells "Field Trip!"

5/5

Speculation on Cloak's finding them. I think a few things Alex is in the hideout somewhere sneaking around hidden places. Or with Chase semi-flirting with Nico... he might've kidnapped Chase somewhere and is posing as him. I like the latter better but I love Chase and hope he's around somewhere.

If it's not Alex I hope Chase gets with Nico, it'd be so cool and I'd take her over Gert whose never consistently drawn. She's either really pudgey or somewhat goodlooking.

Great issue with a lame excuse for Cloak to remember but still sets the stage for what's gonna be a great arc.

Love Bkv

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10-19-2005, 04:07 PM

Cloak's been framed and The New Avengers think he beat Dazzler down. OWNED! You mad ethe same mistake as the recapper that wrote the previews.

Speculation on Cloak's finding them. I think a few things Alex is in the hideout somewhere sneaking around hidden places. Or with Chase semi-flirting with Nico... he might've kidnapped Chase somewhere and is posing as him. I like the latter better but I love Chase and hope he's around somewhere.

Assuming that ALL of the Minoru's magic follows the same rules as Nico's Staff, then I guess Alex could only use the Concealing Glamour once.

Well, the most obvious answer is that Chase's dark secret is that he was the traitor who left the note from Vol. 1 No. 6, and there had been two of them loyal to the Pride (not necessarily working together). After all, he was present inside Cloak -- ooh kinky! -- the first time around, when he sensed the evil presence. But somehow I doubt it's that simple.

If it's not Alex I hope Chase gets with Nico, it'd be so cool and I'd take her over Gert whose never consistently drawn. She's either really pudgey or somewhat goodlooking.Big WTF?! to that!

Gert is easily the most attractive character in any mainstream comic i've read, (underage status notwithstanding, hehehe ;))

I could easily write a long-*** post justifying this. Question is, would anybody else care?

TheManWithoutFear

10-19-2005, 04:09 PM

Big WTF?! to that!

Gert is easily the most attractive character in any mainstream comic i've read, (underage status notwithstanding, hehehe ;))

I could easily write a long-*** post justifying this. Question is, would anybody else care?

Nooooo WAY! You're definitely into the girls who wear long striped socks around and they're all artsy. I guess it's all a matter of taste. I havea think for asians since coming to this school.

nigma

10-19-2005, 08:16 PM

Gert is easily the most attractive character in any mainstream comic i've read, (underage status notwithstanding, hehehe ;))

I could easily write a long-*** post justifying this. Question is, would anybody else care?

this i would love to hear.

and i liked the start to this arc, nice addin and we know that any mind wipe placed can be taken off with a good punch to the head.

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10-22-2005, 05:30 PM

this i would love to hear.
My brain is a little zonked right now, so i'll use the laundry-list approach, for now.

Gert, how do I crush on thee? Let me count the ways...

* her keen, understated fashion sense (sure, Nico gets points for making her own clothes DIY stylee, but if they end up looking like Hot Topic discount-bin cast-offs anyway, what's the ****ing point?)

* her realistic body image (probably resembles the average female Runaways reader more than any other character on the team; a little pudgy, but so what? more to love!)

* her sarcastic wit and casual eye-rolling disaffectedness

* her way of being assertive without being over-bearing

* her apparent bedroom talents; two words: "power vaccum" ;)

TheManWithoutFear

10-22-2005, 06:05 PM

My brain is a little zonked right now, so i'll use the laundry-list approach, for now.

Gert, how do I crush on thee? Let me count the ways...

* her keen, understated fashion sense (sure, Nico gets points for making her own clothes DIY stylee, but if they end up looking like Hot Topic discount-bin cast-offs anyway, what's the ****ing point?)

* her realistic body image (probably resembles the average female Runaways reader more than any other character on the team; a little pudgy, but so what? more to love!)

* her sarcastic wit and casual eye-rolling disaffectedness

* her way of being assertive without being over-bearing

* her apparent bedroom talents; two words: "power vaccum" ;)Ooooh! You're one of those guys who don't care about looks. Got ya. It's good because of guys like you homely girls have a chance...

:lol: Sucker.

TheManWithoutFear

11-09-2005, 05:56 PM

http://www.buzzscope.com/reviews.php?id=5182

The question is... whose "The Kid". I asked Vaughan if we'd get any new members to the roster and he replied with "Stay Tuned" which actually means yes because otherwise he would've said something like "Geez we just added Victor" or something clever.

So Wolverine says there's a kid who can track them who do you think it is? And a reminder that Wolverine and Molly are gonna be in the same issue.

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11-09-2005, 06:04 PM

So Wolverine says there's a kid who can track them who do you think it is? And a reminder that Wolverine and Molly are gonna be in the same issue.I'm already calling it, this early -- my guess is one of the supporting cast of NYX. Most likely Kiden, the girl with the time-stopping powers. X-23 would definitely have told Wolvie about them. The NYX kids are teenage runaways in New York, are they not? It's a perfect fit.

I think the "he" is a deliberate throw-off -- Iron Man and Wolvie are referring to two different kids.

My second guess? Franklin Richards. Why else would they be so hesitant to call in "the kid", if it's not somebody extremely powerful.

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11-09-2005, 06:18 PM

Incidentally, it's pretty safe to assume this arc takes place before "Decimation", yes?

TheManWithoutFear

11-09-2005, 06:28 PM

Incidentally, it's pretty safe to assume this arc takes place before "Decimation", yes?
I'd assume so.

nigma

11-09-2005, 07:36 PM

I'm already calling it, this early -- my guess is one of the supporting cast of NYX. Most likely Kiden, the girl with the time-stopping powers. X-23 would definitely have told Wolvie about them. The NYX kids are teenage runaways in New York, are they not? It's a perfect fit.

I think the "he" is a deliberate throw-off -- Iron Man and Wolvie are referring to two different kids.

My second guess? Franklin Richards. Why else would they be so hesitant to call in "the kid", if it's not somebody extremely powerful.

the kid is mentioned as a 'him', so that rules out all the NYX kiddies, sorry compound