View Full Version : Ultimate X-Men #61 Cover! (Spoiler!)
I know I wrote SPOILER on the title. I know I've said if its in the title, that you don't need to post it in your post aswell. But Im doing it this time. This cover DOES GIVE SPOILERS! So you have been warned!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v647/icycleman/UXM61.jpg
So, how much do ya love me? :twisted:
Caduceus
04-14-2005, 04:09 PM
Oh we love you so much. So very much. This is sweet. We knew she was coming but damn, thats a beautiful cover.
Nurhachi
04-14-2005, 04:11 PM
Wow thanks Ice. Is that Polaris?
TheManWithoutFear
04-14-2005, 04:11 PM
Is that Lorna? Is she gonna be responsible for the break out!?
compound
04-14-2005, 04:14 PM
Absolutely gorgeous! Nice perspective. Powerful stuff.
I must say that I'm a little upset about the storyline implications of the cover image, but I trust Vaughn will handle it in a manner befitting the grand finale of his solo run.
It would make sense if it was Polaris,did break out Magneto. I so cant wait to read this.. this is going to be so freaking awesome. I cant wait... Ice, your my Hetero life mate.
TheManWithoutFear
04-14-2005, 04:22 PM
Polaris is on the friggin' cover... what the hell is goin on!? :drooling:
ultimatedjf
04-14-2005, 04:24 PM
Niiice.
Who's Polaris?
Who's Polaris?
:shock:
In 616, she was:
Iceman's Girlfriend, Havok's fiance, and is Magento's 4th child. Mother unknown.
That's basically the run-down.
ultimatedjf
04-14-2005, 04:26 PM
Alright, thanks. I've never read 616 X-Men and I'm missing a few UXM's so I didn't know if she'd appeared already in this series.
Very good. Thanks Ice - can't wait to see it.
I hope this arc gets the hoopla it deserves. This is a HUGE event...Magneto escaping is big enough that I would have thought it would be more fitting in a mini. Everything ties together here - I want this to be good and I want to hear a lot of people talk a lot about it.
Alright, thanks. I've never read 616 X-Men and I'm missing a few UXM's so I didn't know if she'd appeared already in this series.
Just by picture and was mentioned in UXM #42.
ultimatedjf
04-14-2005, 04:28 PM
Was she the one sitting in the White House?
Was she the one sitting in the White House?
No, she was in the two-page spread with Havok.
Irish_4204
04-14-2005, 04:31 PM
Why is Polaris breaking Magneto out though?
Why is Polaris breaking Magneto out though?
That hasn't been said. It's like that cliche: "Don't judge the book by its cover". Just cuz she's on the cover, doesn't mean she's doing it. She might, but again, that was never said/confirmed.
:shock:
In 616, she was:
Iceman's Girlfriend, Havok's fiance, and is Magento's 4th child. Mother unknown.
That's basically the run-down.
Wait when did they say that Polaris was Magento's daughter? From what I remember she was never his daughter and who's the 3rd kid if she's the first.
Wait when did they say that Polaris was Magento's daughter? From what I remember she was never his daughter and who's the 3rd kid if she's the first.
I've answered this in another thread. In Uncanny X-Men, it was confirmed she's Mag's daughter, cuz she did blood testing and found out they are father/daughter. In "Of Darkest Nights", she said this to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
TheManWithoutFear
04-14-2005, 04:44 PM
I figured this was gonna happen... Polaris is gonna be there and Magneto is going to use her powers to free himself...
check out the solicitations... that's what I'm guessing.
Caduceus
04-14-2005, 04:54 PM
I figured this was gonna happen... Polaris is gonna be there and Magneto is going to use her powers to free himself...
check out the solicitations... that's what I'm guessing.
I'd say the "Crime" they talk about might get her sent to the Triskelion. Then, Mags taps her powers like he could in 616 (its just a use of his own powers) and breaks himself out.
Goodwill
04-14-2005, 06:54 PM
This looksk fantastic. I had the person that broke Magneto out pegged as Mystique and, with this cover, it changes everything! Wow, I can't hardly wait for this to happen... Hopefully, like E had hoped too, this will be a big deal for the entire UU and the story will be the best of Vaughan's run. The art looks great and, if this is any indication of what the story will be like, I'm soo ready.
iceman
04-14-2005, 06:59 PM
i bet she just figures that he is her father.
Polaris just sitting around one day bending spoons: .... HOLY CRAP!
Nice cover.
DigiEmissary
04-14-2005, 08:48 PM
I've answered this in another thread. In Uncanny X-Men, it was confirmed she's Mag's daughter, cuz she did blood testing and found out they are father/daughter. In "Of Darkest Nights", she said this to Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.
You have to remember that this was written by Austen. It (hopefully) won't even be acknowledged by other writers (or it'll get House of M'd.)
His first child was Anya, who was human and died in a fire.
You have to remember that this was written by Austen. It (hopefully) won't even be acknowledged by other writers (or it'll get House of M'd.)
His first child was Anya, who was human and died in a fire.
Just because it was written by Austen doesn't mean it's not cannon. It wasn't even Austen's idea. Someone else had thought of it loooong time ago. Austen just revived the idea.
Irish_4204
04-14-2005, 09:26 PM
Just because it was written by Austen doesn't mean it's not cannon. It wasn't even Austen's idea. Someone else had thought of it loooong time ago. Austen just revived the idea.
Austen also made Lorna crazy. Also wrote The Draco. :evil:
Sad to say most of the writing the past few years will be undone with HoM, some of things need to be erased, some not. Oh well, I'll still read the comics.
Lorna being crazy was awesome. I wouldn't mind seeing that in the future in Ultimate Lorna.
(or it'll get House of M'd.)
I plan on using this in every day conversation. :D
fantomex
04-14-2005, 10:46 PM
does one think she will have control of her powers.
i think it would be cool if they do something with her and magneto
that when she get's in close with him or in a area of him. that she get's a power boost. and help's him get out.
TheManWithoutFear
04-14-2005, 11:03 PM
does one think she will have control of her powers.
i think it would be cool if they do something with her and magneto
that when she get's in close with him or in a area of him. that she get's a power boost. and help's him get out.
She does help him. She accidently breaks him out. I think mags is the one whose gonna get the power boost.
Goodwill
04-15-2005, 07:08 AM
Well, Lorna's eyes may indicate that she's, in some way, possessed and, reading the solicitation (Which should also be discussed here), I think that this is a more feasible conclusion than, say, Ice's where Lorna wants to break out her father. I don't know, if Magneto were my father and did all that stuff, I'd still want him locked up regardless... He didn't treat QS and SW with the best, so why would I be any different? Anyway, like I said in the solicitation thread, I thought that maybe Magneto could "magnetize" those who could magnetize, too. Do you get what I'm saying? He controls Lorna to break him out... Now, the trouble with that is, he'd have to be really powerful to do that because I'd imagine Lorna isn't anywhere near SHIELD headquarters.
But there are some people who want their mother/father (in this case father, if it turns out that way. Im just saying it as one possibility) don't care what they did, and try to get in touch somehow. Maybe Lorna is going a little nuts cuz her boyfriend left her just so he can become known, and needs someone, and well, you should get the picture now.
Goodwill
04-15-2005, 01:39 PM
No offense, but I don't think that kind of story would fit in the Ultimate Universe. All of the character's motivations have been more than just a cry for attention, really, and I don't by that Lorna would be any different. I'm hoping that there is more to her than that, as I'm sure you are, too.
Also, Magneto didn't have her around while you would think she was needed most, so where do you think she falls on the list of priorities for the Master of Magnetism? This also seems to discount your theory rather harshly...
Friday
04-15-2005, 03:44 PM
So let's see here. We've got the Breakout of Magneto, with a deffinate involvment from Polaris (I don't mean she's breaking him ou, just that she's involved in the story.)
We've got Havok and The White Queen gauranteed a return by Vaughan on his FAQ before his run ends.
We've got the Hellfire Club re-emerging in the last issue.
I think that things are shaping up very nicely, and could come togethr in one hell of a storyline. I love you Mista Vaughan.
And yeah, I thought it was common knowldge that Polaris was Maggy's kid. It's not exactly a new revelation. Didn't know he had a human baby though.
Patriot Mk2
04-15-2005, 03:58 PM
Does anyone else remember the end of Uncanny 425? :wink:
And yeah, I thought it was common knowldge that Polaris was Maggy's kid. It's not exactly a new revelation. Didn't know he had a human baby though.
Yeah, she never got old enough to hit puberty, so she never had powers.
But this ocver IS. STILL. AWESOME. I just really like the colors, and now it's my new desktop background.
fantomex
04-15-2005, 11:46 PM
she has powers in the UU. emma tells the pres. that she is magnet girl and summer's older brother alex are dating and the pres. say's no to the magnet girl but ok to alex
MaxwellSmart
04-16-2005, 03:49 AM
I think that if polaris breaks magneto out, she will do it because she is against the government. First, the government doesn't have the best track record regarding mutants. Second, her boyfriend just dumped her to be a puppet of the government. I think that she will see magneto as a political prisoner not a murder and feel that breaking him out is the right thing to do.
Although, my biggest wonder is what magneto is going to be like after he escapes. Part of me thinks that he will see himself as a mutant Nelson Mandela and want to be a political activist. It just wouldn't seem right to have him go on a killing spree upon freedom. I am also a little worried that they are going to have magneto escape and be recaptured in the same arc in which case he won't have the opportunity to do anything. Which I think would be stupid.
I think that if polaris breaks magneto out, she will do it because she is against the government. First, the government doesn't have the best track record regarding mutants. Second, her boyfriend just dumped her to be a puppet of the government. I think that she will see magneto as a political prisoner not a murder and feel that breaking him out is the right thing to do.
But then where's the 'accident' part?
Goodwill
04-16-2005, 10:44 AM
It was just an idea... The 'accident' part could be that she was being pulled in to the SHIELD detention center for whatever reason, her powers fritz, and Magneto is broken out. It could be as simple as that... Magneto could use her after that, making sure that she doesn't do anything stupid and the X-Men and Havok come in from there.
TheManWithoutFear
04-16-2005, 11:30 AM
Polaris will not have any ill intentions at all throughout her early appearances. That's why the solicitations clearly state "ACCIDENTLY". It's in black and white.
fantomex
04-16-2005, 01:11 PM
I think that if polaris breaks magneto out, she will do it because she is against the government. First, the government doesn't have the best track record regarding mutants. Second, her boyfriend just dumped her to be a puppet of the government. I think that she will see magneto as a political prisoner not a murder and feel that breaking him out is the right thing to do.
Although, my biggest wonder is what magneto is going to be like after he escapes. Part of me thinks that he will see himself as a mutant Nelson Mandela and want to be a political activist. It just wouldn't seem right to have him go on a killing spree upon freedom. I am also a little worried that they are going to have magneto escape and be recaptured in the same arc in which case he won't have the opportunity to do anything. Which I think would be stupid.
what is up with this guy and him thinking magneto would in someway think of himself like nelson mandela. i mean on can't you up with something alittle better then that.
i mean on can't you up with something alittle better then that.
If that's so bad why don't you give it a try?
Goodwill
04-16-2005, 07:12 PM
Well, first of all, Magneto can't just break out and think he can walk on a stage and become this political figure that will convince the masses that he was innocent. He harassed the president on camera. I don't see how the idea of Mandela is even possible, so I'm with Fant here... E, what do you think?
jtg3885
04-16-2005, 08:19 PM
Are we confirmed that's Lorna on the cover? Not really green enough to me... heck, in her first appearance, even her lipstick was green.
Are we confirmed that's Lorna on the cover? Not really green enough to me... heck, in her first appearance, even her lipstick was green.
Ultimate Starts Month sends Emma Frost, Alex Summers and the X-Men's greatest enemy into an epic new storyline! When teenage mutant Lorna Dane accidentally commits a horrific crime, will the X-Men protect her, or leave her to the fury of S.H.I.E.L.D.?
Yeah, it's official.
jtg3885
04-16-2005, 08:30 PM
Yeah, it's official.
You've got a woman with light-colored hair and white eyes. Not the green and green we've come to associate with Lorna. I'm not debating if she's in the issue, I'm debating as to whether or not that's her on the cover, and if it is, why they've felt the need to change her coloration.
You've got a woman with light-colored hair and white eyes. Not the green and green we've come to associate with Lorna. I'm not debating if she's in the issue, I'm debating as to whether or not that's her on the cover, and if it is, why they've felt the need to change her coloration.
Of course it's her on the cover. Green hair, still having purple on her clothes. Some difference in coloration doesn't mean it's not her.
jtg3885
04-16-2005, 09:45 PM
Of course it's her on the cover. Green hair, still having purple on her clothes. Some difference in coloration doesn't mean it's not her.
That's definitely not the green we've seen on her. She's been shown as a very, very definite green. Not with chlorinated blonde hair. And basing something on the color of her clothing is as stupid as whoever suggested it was Jubilee on the cover of U2 #6 because the girl (now definitely Hellcat) was blowing a bubble of gum.
jtg3885
04-16-2005, 09:55 PM
And on another note, the Marvel wallpaper almost always shows a cropped version of the cover.
I'm wondering if Emma's been entirely truthful about the extent of her powers now. I'll admit that it's probably Lorna (even though their colorist sucks), but the white eyes make me curious. Emma's eyes turned that color when she activated her diamond power. Does she truly only have diamond powers, or does she just say that to prevent the President from seeing her as Xavier Jr?
Perhaps Emma sees Erik as Charles does, as someone who just needs some reeducation before being reintroduced into society, and takes it upon herself to release him using her magnetic student. Possibly even playing upon the government ties she established back in her introductory arc.
Curiouser and curiouser.
That's definitely not the green we've seen on her.
Different artists draw different characters differently.
TheManWithoutFear
04-17-2005, 03:46 AM
That's definitely not the green we've seen on her. She's been shown as a very, very definite green. Not with chlorinated blonde hair. And basing something on the color of her clothing is as stupid as whoever suggested it was Jubilee on the cover of U2 #6 because the girl (now definitely Hellcat) was blowing a bubble of gum.
Dude, it's Lorna give it a rest.
jtg3885
04-17-2005, 03:49 AM
*Comic Book Guy Voice*
Worst. Lorna. Ever.
TheManWithoutFear
04-17-2005, 03:50 AM
*Comic Book Guy Voice*
Worst. Lorna. Ever.
I agree the art on the cover is bad but it's a cool concept.
Goodwill
04-17-2005, 02:44 PM
I think we should all be glad that this story is going to rock rather than moan about a mediocre cover. C'mon, we're beginning to sound like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. ;)
Nurhachi
04-17-2005, 02:51 PM
Geek Eye for the Artist Guy?
Goodwill
04-17-2005, 02:54 PM
Tomatoes Tuhmatoes, my friend. ;) :lol:
TheManWithoutFear
04-17-2005, 03:06 PM
Well we'll talk about the story when that thread comes up... right now we're discussing the cover.
Caduceus
04-17-2005, 03:31 PM
I actually rather like the artwork. It's quite clearly Lorna and its just a different version to the one that appeared for a single panel on the screen. With a completely different artist.
Goodwill
04-17-2005, 06:21 PM
Right and, this time, she has a distinct face and is an individual. If you slapped black hair-dye into her hair in UXM before this cover, you would've gotten Karma. Seriously, Lorna's been improved upon.
fantomex
04-17-2005, 09:48 PM
let's just hope that it's not like the other arcs where it starts to build up to something great and then lets us down. like some of the other arcs of this book
I actually rather like the artwork.
Yeah, I'm trying to get the outrage about the greenness of her hair and I'm not seeing it :roll: . It's one of Immonen's better covers.
Caduceus
04-18-2005, 04:52 AM
It's one of Immonen's better covers.
Absolutely. Its got rid of the cartoony feel I didn't like with some of the others.
Nurhachi
04-18-2005, 05:08 AM
Absolutely. Its got rid of the cartoony feel I didn't like with some of the others.
fo shizzle mah nizzle cadizzle. Immonen is all wack up in hurrrrrrr. Spect
TheManWithoutFear
04-18-2005, 11:06 AM
I wouldn't say it got rid of... more like toned it down some.
Caduceus
04-18-2005, 11:08 AM
I wouldn't say it got rid of... more like toned it down some.
Yes, enough that it looks like a realistic illustration rather than a cartoony picture.
thee great one
04-18-2005, 08:18 PM
I like the cover it looks animeish. It rocks :rockon:
TheManWithoutFear
04-18-2005, 10:20 PM
I like the cover it looks animeish. It rocks :rockon:
See what he said. That's why I don't think it's the greatest thing ever. It's good but it doesn't look realistic.
Goodwill
04-19-2005, 07:14 AM
Yeah, I'm trying to get the outrage about the greenness of her hair and I'm not seeing it :roll: . It's one of Immonen's better covers.
Yes, guys, you do have to admit that Immonen has altered his style a little bit to convey the seriousness of Magneto's escape...
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