View Full Version : Mark Millar hypes Ultimate Fantastic Four at Newsarama
http://ultimatecentral.com/images/news-millar.jpg Newsarama has posted an interview with upcoming Ultimate Fantastic Four writer Mark Millar. An excerpt:
"NRAMA: So any teases at all to clarify just a touch what is coming in the storyline?
MM: We've got time-travel, fights at the beginning of time, fights at the end of time, pretty much every character Marvel has on their books and probably the best villain I've ever come up with. And that's just the first story and leaving out the best parts.
After this we have the undersea pyramids of Atlantis; the Tomb of Namor; the hidden secret shame of the Storm family; Johnny's new best pal; a rival school that resides in a great big building near the Baxter Building and hates their guts; alien invasions; the Thing going mad; Reed and Ben shrunken down and chasing bad guys inside the President; and a million other things I can't even remember. Plus two other big things I can't reveal because they're major spoilers for later in the year.
It's non-stop and probably the most unselfconscious thing I think I've ever written. It's just a good comic and will pretty much round out the rest of my Marvel contract. I'm up in the autumn and, if anything, would only have time for a short project after this. But there's a very good chance this'll be my last company-owned thing for a long time. Wolverine, Ultimates 2, Marvel Knights Spidey, and this one-year run on Ultimate FF are all books I'm really pleased with this year, but this is the only one I can really show to my kid."
Read the interview in its entirity and get some nice Greg Land preview art at http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=32193
Caduceus
04-21-2005, 02:03 PM
MM: We've got time-travel, fights at the beginning of time, fights at the end of time, pretty much every character Marvel has on their books and probably the best villain I've ever come up with. And that's just the first story and leaving out the best parts.
Because what the UFF continuity really really needs is time travel.
the hidden secret shame of the Storm family;
Now, I'm not an FF guru but doesn't a man normally need a woman to have two babies? We haven't seen Mrs Storm yet, the only mention of her is that Dr Storm "Lost her" and I already strongly suspect that its got to do with her.
Reed and Ben shrunken down and chasing bad guys inside the President;
.......
TheManWithoutFear
04-21-2005, 02:06 PM
I think Mark Millar recently started doing crack.
MM: We've got time-travel, fights at the beginning of time, fights at the end of time, pretty much every character Marvel has on their books and probably the best villain I've ever come up with. And that's just the first story and leaving out the best parts.
And the Ultimate Universe just went to hell. I'm fine with parallel universes (As long as 616 isn't in the same Multiverse as Ultimate), but time travel? It better be REALLY REALLY REALLY well written and SOLVE the current continuity issues. . . but I'm sure it'll just create more of a headache. I have faith in you, Mark. . .please don't let us down. :?
TheManWithoutFear
04-21-2005, 03:07 PM
And the Ultimate Universe just went to hell. I'm fine with parallel universes (As long as 616 isn't in the same Multiverse as Ultimate), but time travel? It better be REALLY REALLY REALLY well written and SOLVE the current continuity issues. . . but I'm sure it'll just create more of a headache. I have faith in you, Mark. . .please don't let us down. :?
Well I could deal with Time Travel into the past. As long as it doesn't change anything in the future and it's a self contained story. If they met the Ultimate Invaders during WWII then that'd be cool. But if they go back and pull a sound of thunder on our ***' then that's not cool. And time travel into the future... I don't see it happening.
Again UFF should be exploring itself instead of branching out to all of this multiuniverse/time travel nonsense.
Patriot Mk2
04-21-2005, 03:33 PM
I think Mark Millar recently started doing crack.
Mark Millar has ALWAYS been doing crack
I have faith in Millar, I think that his run will be great. HOW DARE ANY OF YOU DOUBT MILLAR, still Im not a big fan of the UFF meeting with the FF. We shall see.....
still Im not a big fan of the UFF meeting with the FF. We shall see.....
aarrrrRRRRRGH....IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Far Past Time Travel isn't too bad, and I guess certain bits of it could explain the time discrpencies in The Ultimates / UMTU. Even the End of Time is a very fuzzy area, not really affecting anything (Think 'Chrono Trigger'). And E, I hope you're right. . .I hope to GOD that the UFF and the FF never EVER meet up. Ever. (I'm still hoping this is that "Ultimate Ultimate" thing Millar talked about back 9 months ago). I have faith that Mark'll do well. . .
Friday
04-21-2005, 06:54 PM
You know what? I think I'm going to start picking UFF up monthly. This just sounds like too much fun to pass up.
And a great big yay to more insanity spawned from the gaping maw that is miller's brain. Creator owned series rock.
Goodwill
04-21-2005, 07:50 PM
Well, I'm sold on these ideas. Really, I can understand the skepticism, but I think we should know better than to say Millar's going to do a horrible job with even the most obscure plots that come around. I'm looking forward to the Fantastic Four actually getting dirty beyond what was set up for them in the first arc or so and I think, with the exception of the whole shrinking Ben and Reed to combat villains in the President's intestines, Millar's got the right stuff to be writing this title. I can't wait to see the time traveling bit; I've never really read into anything like that since Back to the Future, so this should be a good deal.
moonmaster
04-21-2005, 08:00 PM
I really can't wait for this. After reading the article I'm fairly certain that Millar's run is going to be pretty fun (not to mention totally insane). Hopefully it'll be a little more satisfying than what's come before in UFF (in my opinion atleast). I wonder how Millar's gonna fit all this crap into 12 issues?
Goodwill
04-21-2005, 09:07 PM
You know, I really liked how Millar put it... This isn't the Mundane Four it's the FANTASTIC Four. I'm expecting good things out of this.
You know, I really liked how Millar put it... This isn't the Mundane Four it's the FANTASTIC Four. I'm expecting good things out of this.
Me too. I'm a little surprised at all the skepticism...sounds like this book is actually going to be really good for once.
Sounds like lots of fun - we'll be seeing Ultimate Namor too.
Also, I've been thinking UFF has been really, really good. The only exceptions are the first six issues which were pretty awful. But I've loved the Doom and N-Zone arcs.
If you disagree, but like New Avengers, you are wrong. Accept it. Don't even try to post a rebuttal, you'll only look stupid and hurt yourself. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it.
Sounds like lots of fun - we'll be seeing Ultimate Namor too.
Also, I've been thinking UFF has been really, really good. The only exceptions are the first six issues which were pretty awful. But I've loved the Doom and N-Zone arcs.
If you disagree, but like New Avengers, you are wrong. Accept it. Don't even try to post a rebuttal, you'll only look stupid and hurt yourself. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it. Accept it.
Bitter Avengers fans are funny. :D
I didn't read the Avengers before Bendis. And I ain't gonna be picking 'em up now.
See how wrong you are? See how you have verbally tripped over and hurt yourself?
I warned you, E...
Man, I use that excuse for everything now. It's great.
Ultxon
04-21-2005, 10:44 PM
I blame Loki.
funny, last couple months I've been balming Zeus for all my probs, i get weird looks but hell it's fun.
I can't wait for this, i just hope that the book goes superpseudoscience instead of just saying, hey Reed created a time machine and there off to battle Rama-Tut.
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ultimatedjf
04-21-2005, 10:58 PM
His art is so beautiful. I just can't wait to see those pages in color!
TheManWithoutFear
04-21-2005, 11:04 PM
that's more goodness
thanks Ice. :twisted:
Nurhachi
04-22-2005, 01:02 AM
Bitter Avengers fans are funny. :D
Yeah, but looks arnt everything :twisted:
iceman
04-22-2005, 01:56 AM
i kind of like the silly adventures. FF is an adventure team, i'd rather them not get all serious too soon. meeting the 616 FF may be a little too far, but i'm all for the rival school, johnny's new best pal, and microscopic fun
ourchair
04-22-2005, 07:50 AM
i kind of like the silly adventures. FF is an adventure team, i'd rather them not get all serious too soon. meeting the 616 FF may be a little too far, but i'm all for the rival school, johnny's new best pal, and microscopic fun
Microscopic fun? I didn't notice if Millar mentioned anything like that. Did he? I hope so, because he might be alluding to the Microverse, where the 616 FF met Psycho-Man.
Onrng
04-22-2005, 08:25 AM
He also mentioned a space fight. Anyone thinking Skrulls( or the chitari or whatever they are called. )
ourchair
04-22-2005, 08:58 AM
He also mentioned a space fight. Anyone thinking Skrulls( or the chitari or whatever they are called. )
I doubt Millar would re-use the Chitauri because a) their paranoiac tone doesn't suit what he seems to be trying to achieve in UFF and b) Any surviving Chitauri who wanted to take over the earth have probably "relocated to the lower fourth dimension" to lick their wounds.
TheManWithoutFear
04-22-2005, 11:00 AM
Who mentioned the Fantastic Four shrinking down and fighting inside the President? Because if they saved the president, that would get them some positive media attention, right?
ourchair
04-22-2005, 11:14 AM
Who mentioned the Fantastic Four shrinking down and fighting inside the President? Because if they saved the president, that would get them some positive media attention, right?
Fighting inside the President? I don't know where that came from, but that's AWESOME. I'd love to see the UFF get all Innerspace on the President. Sounds wacky and fun.
Perhaps its an intentional pun on the Raquel Welch movie, Fantastic Voyage.
Goodwill
04-22-2005, 11:29 AM
Well, I'm with Ice on this one... I do like the adventure aspect of the title that Millar seems to be honing in on, which is a good thing after all of the little pushes towards that Ellis has made in between his science babble, but how far is too far? Certainly the innerspace wars seems a little too silly to you guys, right? I don't have a problem with time travel and inter-dimensional cross-overs, but it seems the run is going to get more and more ridiculous as it goes on. We'll have to see, though.
I can't wait to see the rival school... I wonder if this is going to be run by the government, too.
TheManWithoutFear
04-22-2005, 01:18 PM
Ultimate Fantastic Four is the least ultimate title goin' next thing you know the dead will be rising.
ourchair
04-22-2005, 01:45 PM
Well, I'm with Ice on this one... I do like the adventure aspect of the title that Millar seems to be honing in on, which is a good thing after all of the little pushes towards that Ellis has made in between his science babble, but how far is too far? Certainly the innerspace wars seems a little too silly to you guys, right? I don't have a problem with time travel and inter-dimensional cross-overs, but it seems the run is going to get more and more ridiculous as it goes on. We'll have to see, though.
Well, whenever Millar does "silly" I usually like it.
In any case, how do interdimensional crossovers and time travel seem MORE ridiculous than nano-miniaturizing the Fantastic Four? At least nano-miniaturization is scientifically plausible in our world at the moment (albeit not involving humans... yet) whereas time travel and interdimensional crossovers remain largely the domain of either Stephen Hawking wannabes or tripped-out followers of Timothy Leary.
Goodwill
04-22-2005, 05:05 PM
Yes, but time travel and inter-dimensional travel is entirely what the science fiction world is comprised of. I think that, after all of the time-travelling movies that I've seen, I'm more comfortable with it than I am with people shrinking down to get eaten by the President. The only place I've seen that in was Rugrats, and that was a stupid kids show at the time.
Caduceus
04-22-2005, 05:10 PM
The only place I've seen that in was Rugrats, and that was a stupid kids show at the time.
I'm going to pretend that you didn't say that.
Honestly? The shrinking idea sounds like something only Millar would come up with. Something that may or may not work. I don't really mind the time travel if its not going to be a "the smallest actions have the largest consequences" story. That would suck.
I'm not sure why time travel would be any more outrageous than, say, N-Zone travel.
BECAUSE THE N-ZONE IS RED! Duh! :neutral:
BECAUSE THE N-ZONE IS RED! Duh! :neutral:
Aaaaaahhhhh....
...I still don't get it.
The N-Zone is red.
Shrinking size is not.
What more do you need to know?
The N-Zone is red.
Shrinking size is not.
What more do you need to know?
I'm not sure why time travel would be any more outrageous than, say, N-Zone travel.
:crazy:
my plan has succeeded...
Er.... I mean, the N-Zone's colour is arbitrary. Just like accepting sci-fi stories with time travel but not those involving people shrinking into mini-people to save the president.
Er... wait, I didn't mean that... I meant: MY PLAN HAS SUCCEEDED! COUP!
thee great one
04-22-2005, 08:19 PM
Did you guys see the panels in the inteview with the thing slaping the crap out of a t-rex?
Did you guys see the panels in the inteview with the thing slaping the crap out of a t-rex?
Go back a page in this thread.
ourchair
04-23-2005, 01:02 AM
I'm not sure why time travel would be any more outrageous than, say, N-Zone travel.
Because we still don't have the ability to harness 1.21 JIGOwatts of energy into a flux capacitor and and and... (Michael J. Fox voice) THAT is what makes time travel possible!
Ultimate Houde
04-23-2005, 08:26 AM
I'm thinking old Hitllar has lost it, which, of course, I blame on Loki.
Seriously, shrinking? Time travel? Going to the deli to eat hot cakes? Johnny having a rival? Dr. Storm having a secret?
Anyways, whose Johnny's rival? I'm thinking the Ice Cream man, or maybe the Human Candle Putter Outter Thingy.
And Dr. Storm's secret is that he wears panties.
It is, just look at page 7 on the third issue.
He's wearing panties.
(Is he even on page seven?)
And Ben beating up a T-Rex, that's so cool! (I'm trying for the fanboy aspect here. Is it working?)
Damn that Loki.
ultimatedjf
04-23-2005, 09:35 AM
I wonder if Millar will introduce Yancey Street. :D
Goodwill
04-23-2005, 09:48 AM
Welcome Houde... I can tell you'll be an interesting addition to the site! :)
Anyway, while I do have skepticism about these arcs, don't you think that these are all good ideas to actually move the Fantastic Four forward a bit? For the past three arcs, they've pretty much been in the same place... I like to see some progression, here.
I wonder if Millar will introduce Yancey Street. :D
:shock:
I HOPE SO!
And Houde? You're on the ball, my man. :D
Goodwill
04-23-2005, 10:35 AM
Yancey who?
Yancy Street is the street where the ever-lovin' blue-eyed Thing grew up. He goes on about it all the time in 616.
I'm thinking old Hitllar has lost it, which, of course, I blame on Loki.
Ah, but it isn't Hitllar - just "llar"
Ultimate Houde
04-23-2005, 02:39 PM
If I spelled it wrong, it's Loki's fault.
I actually have yet to read any Fantastic Four, Ultimate or otherwise so I have no buisness what so ever posting in this thread.
Damn that Loki. Notice how Loki is alltogether on the keyboard as well....
Things that make one go Hmmmmm...
And now, my grand exit.
*flourishes grandly as he exits*
mutantfreak
04-23-2005, 05:06 PM
I think everything sounds awesome!!
And I think the coolest thing is saving the american president from within. THis is going to be GREAT!! Millar rules!!
moonmaster
04-23-2005, 07:04 PM
Damn that Loki. Notice how Loki is alltogether on the keyboard as well....
Things that make one go Hmmmmm...
GOOD OBSERVATION! Loki is infiltrating your computer as we speak. He will leak those "compromising" photos of you to the press. You're gonna be executed for what you did to that goat!! RUN!!!!
Ultimate Houde
04-24-2005, 09:07 AM
GOOD OBSERVATION! Loki is infiltrating your computer as we speak. He will leak those "compromising" photos of you to the press. You're gonna be executed for what you did to that goat!! RUN!!!!
But I feed it, and made it a home.
I did not have sexual relantions with the goat in question.
Goodwill
04-24-2005, 01:45 PM
I think everything sounds awesome!!
And I think the coolest thing is saving the american president from within. THis is going to be GREAT!! Millar rules!!
What I find most interesting is the fans aren't really finding that much wrong with the obscure departure from the "ultimate" ideas. I mean, heck, I've even found myself gearing up for time travel, something that I was once opposed to. I really can't wait to see what's going to happen... I hope Kang shows up!
TheManWithoutFear
04-24-2005, 05:05 PM
I hope Kang shows up!
He might as well.
Goodwill
04-24-2005, 05:34 PM
:lol: Don't tell me you're going to be the rain on all of these parades, MwoF. I think this is magnificent news. Think about it... Without all of these obscure ideas, just what would the UFF be doing after the N-Zone arc?
Friday
04-24-2005, 05:57 PM
.....Yessss..... Kang.... He was first defeated by the Fantastic Four during his reign as a Pharoh in Egypt. It was even during his term that Apocalypse was born.
Goodwill
04-24-2005, 06:02 PM
Yes, and I believe he's supposed to be a descendant of Doctor Doom, too, which is very cool.
Friday
04-24-2005, 06:03 PM
Yes, and I believe he's supposed to be a descendant of Doctor Doom, too, which is very cool.
That he is. That he is.
TheManWithoutFear
04-24-2005, 07:40 PM
:lol: Don't tell me you're going to be the rain on all of these parades, MwoF. I think this is magnificent news. Think about it... Without all of these obscure ideas, just what would the UFF be doing after the N-Zone arc?
No, I didn't mean it sarcastically. I really think it'd be cool to see Ultimate Kang used in the arc.
Goodwill
04-25-2005, 03:07 PM
He might as well.
This I interpreted as something like, "Shoot, they're having the Four dive into the President's intestines, it's not like a time travelling war lord would make it any worse!" Sorry for the confusion.
Thing is, I wouldn't know what his purpose would be, and he needs one of those... You know, a purpose. I just think that it may be a tad tired to see a mad scientist trapse through time trying to conquer the world.
ourchair
04-25-2005, 10:54 PM
This I interpreted as something like, "Shoot, they're having the Four dive into the President's intestines, it's not like a time travelling war lord would make it any worse!" Sorry for the confusion.
Now that Bush has been officially removed as "President" of the Ultimate U.S. and replaced by a faceless nameless President, I vote that the inner-body Fantastic Voyage take place inside a President who looks like Martin Short.
Maybe the story involves Psycho-Man trying to take over the body of the President by shrinking himself and conquering the brain centers. It would seem pretty much in tune with the wacky stupidity of old Psycho's 616 counterpart.
TheManWithoutFear
04-25-2005, 10:58 PM
Maybe the story involves Psycho-Man trying to take over the body of the President by shrinking himself and conquering the brain centers. It would seem pretty much in tune with the wacky stupidity of old Psycho's 616 counterpart.
and it sounds just like something that should take place in 616... not even modern 616 but like 616 15 years ago...
Damnit Millar :x
ourchair
04-25-2005, 11:00 PM
and it sounds just like something that should take place in 616... not even modern 616 but like 616 15 years ago...
Damnit Millar :x
I'm pretty sure there's a good way to tone that down into something realistic while still being characteristically Millar-esque, but basically microscopic adventures and Psycho-Man have always been a part of each other.
Goodwill
04-26-2005, 09:45 PM
It sounds like a story only Ellis could pull off, if you ask me...
ourchair
04-27-2005, 03:35 PM
It sounds like a story only Ellis could pull off, if you ask me...
Yeah, but it'd be mostly made up of splash pages of the President's internal organs for like an entire half-issue.
I think the combination of the words "splash" and "President's internal organs" sounds wrong, for some reason.
compound
04-27-2005, 03:42 PM
Yeah, but it'd be mostly made up of splash pages of the President's internal organs for like an entire half-issue.That, and it would probably take four months in real-world time, just to leave his digestive tract.
I second the likelihood of Psycho Man as the villain for this story, with 'offending nacho chip' as a close second. :P
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