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Aren't they all going to different studios? It's the same mess that was going on in the 80's with the toy companies.Originally Posted by Kevin Feige (A Marvel Movies Producer)
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Since the Avengers movie seems to be the works, SPOILER! if you saw the end of iron Man, you would know there is a set up for an avengers movie, with the ultimate version of Nick Fury as the leader (so it would be government backed).
This brings up some interesting questions, how close should this movie be to the 616 or Ultimate universe? Does Universal have the rights to all the needed characters? Will they have the needed intro movies for all the characters out of the way before the movie is ready? Who should the villain be?
Last edited by Ice; 05-03-2008 at 11:32 PM.
well there has been rumours about this for a while now
Thor and Captain America are planned, rumours of Ant-Man and Nick Fury Movies
Favreau want's to direct this, It will probably be an amalgam of the UU/616 Avengers, and since Marvel Studios is set to produce it they already have the rights.
The Villain should be H.Y.D.R.A. acting as the anti-S.H.I.E.L.D., probably with Loki being the man behind the curtain controlling Madame Hydra/ Baron Strucker
I think doing either the Hulk arc, the Thor arc and then the grand theft america arc (all ultimate stories) should be the first three movies doing a whole lord of the rings type deal. I was also thinking since Nick Fury may play a bigger, more medium role in Iron Man II, we should introduce Natasha as his right hand woman along with Hawkeye.
After watching running scared, I'd like to see Paul Walker as the family man Hawkeye. Although I'm sure he could do the womanizing hawkeye as well. PLus he just looks like a Clint.
Originally Posted by Hellsbuttmonkey
Ok, here you need Spoiler marks because any mention about another movie (because any other movie is not the topic of this thread) is spoiling people who havent seen the film yet. And the thread is titled incorrectly because there's nothing to spoil about a movie that wont be out for years.
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Well they merged my original thread with this one, so the spoiler in the title was to let people know there were spoilers in the thread itself.
Really now, the other thread was 2 years old, if I added this post to that one, that would resurrecting an old thread, which is frowned upon in many parts of the internet. Seriously I think there should be a statue of limitations on old threads before they are merged with new ones.
A few problems, Movie Hulk is more like 616 Hulk than Ultimate hulk (saving the bridge the first movie, fighting abomination ion the second), so that may not work as a movie.
Plus with two Hulk movies already in play, another Hulk fight would seem like old hat.
Another problem is the Grand theft America arc is a lot to fit into a movie. Look at the Liberators, people complained when they tried to fit 3 villains into Spider-Man 3, try to explain how 8 or so villains work to an American audience. One villain would likely work better. Plus Loki would likely be the villain in a Thor movie, so him being the villain in the avengers movie would seem like old hat again.
Looking at the 616 villains, Kang is a bit too outlandish. Ultron is likely the best choice, but he would need a lot of set up.
Last edited by The Overlord; 05-04-2008 at 12:21 AM.
well considering there will be movies for most of the heroes before avengers begin, that's where you draw from the Liberators. I think Ultron would have plenty of setup in the antman movie if they decide to go that direction.
I suspect the Ant-Man film is closer to realization than we think, seeing as I've earned over a 100 percentage points in share increase over HSX in the past three months. It's gone from 8.26 to 17.61 in that time.
My suspicion is that there are people who play HSX who are actually involved in Hollywood to some degree. This is not suggest that anything is solid now, but the talks for this project might be stepping up very gradually to such a point that people have been buying up enough shares to raise its price.
True, Bit it's different sine we're talking about a group of Heroes fighting a group of Villians.Look at the Liberators, people complained when they tried to fit 3 villains into Spider-Man 3, try to explain how 8 or so villains work to an American audience
If it's one villain it has to be one that can be a threat to the whole team
and loki can fit that bill(so could Ultron or some other avengers foe)
another option is an Alien invasion(Skrull,Kee or what have you)
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I don't think HYDRA should be the villain of the Avengers flick.
We need a big threat. Thing with HYDRA is they're more spy based and not an anti-Avengers unit. HYDRA should of course be the villain in a Nick Fury movie and I hope AIM shows up in Iron Man 2 or 3...but that's just me.
I think Ultron is the big threat needed and will allow for awesome scenes. Ultron's strong enough for the first ever assembled Avengers to introduce themselves against, he also can make a few robotic copies which gives a PG-13 movie stuff to crave up.
Ratings boards might not like Thor frying humans en mass, but robots? That's fine. Captain America putting his shield into a chest cavity...bad if human...ok if its a robot.
Ultron can also have ties to Tony Stark and Hank Pym in their movies adding to the crossover feel.
Hmm, I wonder how big the roster will be, and for that matter: How come nobody's mentioned Wasp!? C'mon! She's winsome!
Hmmmm.....I think I could come up with a proper Avengers pitch with some time.
Personally, like I stated before, I think the Marvel Movieverse is more in synch with Ultimate Universe. If you ignore some of the more mystical elements of some Marvel films like Ghost Rider and Elektra....then you've got a filmverse that is very much set in a more realistic realm much like 616.
So my pitch would combine the best of 616 and UU.
I doubt that can work just like, I don't think the set up for these villains some of the liberator members are already being used in movies already, like Abomination already being the villain in Hulk 2 and Loki will likely be the villain in Thor movie so it be hard to reuse those villains in the avengers movie.
Plus 8 villains in one movie? People care unhappy when you had 3 villains in Spidey 3?
Again Loki will likely be the villain in a Thor movie, is it would hard to just to reuse him in an avengers movie. Plus abomination will be the villain in the hulk, so I doubt you can use him in a Avengers movie.
Again as characters themselves most of the liberators aren't very interesting, they served their purpose in the comics, but its better to have one good villain in a movie, the movie already has enough characters with all the avengers.
Last edited by The Overlord; 05-04-2008 at 09:34 AM.
Doesn't matter if there's a good story behind it. The Thor Movie takes place in Asgard so they would need a reason to have Thor come to Midgard(earth.).
Liberaters not interesting? please and even if that was the case they can make them interesting. But if that doesn't tickle your fancy then let them Use the masters of Evil(Probably with a different name) and make it Helmut Zemo's incarnation the one that really gave it to the Avengers.
I mean hey after they finally do a hero team up a villian team up wont be far behind.
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