Again, I know it's a gap that hasn't been filled yet, that's why I said it's a theory and not a fact. I didn't throw this here because I thought this is for sure what's happening no doubt about it. I threw it here because you guys are the most knowledgeable about the MCU Timeline and how it works and may have noticed something I forgot that debunked the theory before I made a fool of myself in front of other nerds lol
Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 2)
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No worries!
I didn't mean to come off as hostile in anyway if I did. I appreciate any feedback on the theory like the stuff you shared. You brought up good points early on that helped me strengthen the theory and new things I hadn't thought of. It helps to articulate theories to people who know their **** and can ask the right questions about it to make me think better about things. I think I have the foundation well enough to make a decent argument for the theory and not get absolutely torn to shreds on sites like Reddit lol (until Quantumania or Loki S02 blows it apart haha) thank you very much.
I will be very disappointed if the timeline book doesn't include tv shows and even comic books.
They are releasing Star Wars book in 3 months and we already know it includes EVERYTHING - link.
Star Wars doesn't have any problems with pre-Disney+ media. If there's nothing about tv shows it will be a big NO from me for Marvel Studios and maybe even entire MCU.
They are releasing Star Wars book in 3 months and we already know it includes EVERYTHING - link.
Star Wars doesn't have any problems with pre-Disney+ media. If there's nothing about tv shows it will be a big NO from me for Marvel Studios and maybe even entire MCU.
I don't know. I mean I used to care about the Marvel TV shows. But anymore, I feel they are just too different than the Disney Plus MCU stuff and don't really "fit" the tone of them. So in my personal MCU, they don't exist. And comics and other reading material are too complicated to fit in with the movie/ TV viewing IMO. So for me, if Daredevil/ Kingpin/ Quake whoever are retconned a bit, that's fine by me. "My" Agent Carter is the one shot and five minutes of the TV series as one-shot part 2, "Agent Carter, meet Jarvis". Then it jumps to her Smithsonian interview, followed by the 1989 scene from Ant-Man. Coulson was never brought back to life. BTW, anyone think it was a missed opportunity that Coulson never met Val?
"Don't I know you from somewhere?"
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Well the difference between Star Wars and the MCU is Lucasfilm is kinda in charge of all Star Wars media whereas with the MCU Marvel Studios wasn't in charge of the Television shows and comics (I believe I could be wrong). So if this book is Marvel Studios it'll include all Marvel Studios properties in the MCU, not everything that is MCU
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I'll be surprised if Marvel Studios ever includes Marvel Television in an "official" timeline given it was a seperate division. It's nothing to do with saying they aren't canon, it's just them focusing on the work done specifically by them.
Disney+ has placed Wakanda Forever between Moon Knight and She-Hulk on their timeline (I have Moon Knight in 2025 ending May 16th, I prefer it in 2025, so I use the wiki dates and She-Hulk beginning Mid-June 2025). I know using the Disney + timeline is controversial, but I think a late May/early June 2025 placement fits with what we're shown in the movie. The fact they didn't lazily place it between Werewolf by Night and the Guardians Holiday Special makes me believe some thought has gone into this placement.
Looking at MIT's schedule for this year, it seems Final Exams fall on the 19th, and 22nd-24th of May and there is a Summer session that Riri could also be a part of, explaining why she could potentially still be at school in June.
Looking at MIT's schedule for this year, it seems Final Exams fall on the 19th, and 22nd-24th of May and there is a Summer session that Riri could also be a part of, explaining why she could potentially still be at school in June.
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That is so unique as a tie-in!
"A guy dressed like a bee tried to kill me in my room when I was 6". With Ant-Man & The Wasp stating Cassie was 10 in April/May 2018, I don't really see how this line works. Even if the "10-year-old" comment was rounding up, Cassie still would have been 7 during the first Ant-Man. I know it's minuscule but come on its basic math.
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Y'all think Kang will succeed in directly rewriting the main timeline (no branches) to some degree...and result of that is the birth of the Mutant gene - i.e. the first Mutant, En Sabah Nur (Apocalypse)?
Around the 8:00-minute mark of this video, we get a date of May 7th, 2025 from a deleted scene from Wakanda Forever. I know the scene was deleted, but this would fit with the timeline used by Disney +. I know the vote here settled for Moon Knight in 2024, but as someone who uses the Wiki's 2025 dates, I have the climax of it ending May 5th, 2025 (the final scene happens some days after). As I said a perfect fit. They even show the day of the week as Wednesday which matches the real world. Sucks that we had a firm date get deleted from the actual movie, but I think it could still work.
I think that'll have to be chalked up as her misremembering her own age, which can easily happen (even if that was a pretty traumatic/significant event).
I mean I don't know if that specifically will happen but I wouldn't say it couldn't happen. I wouldn't mind a little history between Rama-Tut and Apocalypse in the MCU tho for sure
Solid theory - I think it may also have something to do with the technology Kang has that's related to Ms Marvel's bangles. We saw her time travel, and the bangles seemed to unlock her mutant abilities.
I don't imagine they're gonna close the door to having ancient mutants like Apocalypse, so they'll either retcon that they've been hidden the whole time, or more likely they'll mess with the timeline.
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my personal theory is kang's future tech can be used to travel through time without creating parallel branches, thus why kamala's time travel was closed-loop vs endgame's branch method. How that relates to the ten rings to me is still... unclear; however, knowing that the bangle was found in a ten rings temple leads me to believe that the signal being sent out is reaching to kang or a variant of his
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Gone for 2 months, nothing has changed.
The movie literally had a deleted scene showing a date that matches the Disney + timeline. It may not always be accurate (for the most part I think it is), but it's ridiculous to rule it out entirely.
We never rule it out "entirely" but with something that has many inconsistencies with being correct it's just not something we can base decisions on. We always discuss where Disney+ places the film, we always look at their timeline and compare it to what we have and then alter decisioms if needed like with Multiverse of Madness IIRC
And me mentioning it earlier was to compare and discuss where they placed the movie. Especially with something like Wakanda Forever which is vague on its own without that deleted scene. It feels like @fuzzyfoot is upset simply because I mentioned it. I wasn't saying to 100% adhere to it, but the date within the movie matching does say something about the accuracy of their placement.
I took his comment to be more a shot at the Disney+ Timeline and not at you but maybe I misread that
I took it as him saying "nothing's changed" with me bringing up Disney +, but I could have misinterpreted it.
I am interested in the deleted scene that matches the date. Which scene was it and what did the date say. Deleted stuff isn't always great for accuracy but I'd say it's definitely worth discussing since I believe it's our only real thing so far
I mentioned it earlier, on the blu ray there is a deleted scene with Ross and a face scan that shows Wednesday, May 7th, 2025. Even though the scene was deleted, I feel it does show where they had the placement of the movie in mind and as someone who used the Wiki's 2025 dates for Moon Knight, it fits perfectly between it and She-Hulk which coincides with the Disney + timeline. The site here has already placed the movie using this date.
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It's all of it to be honest. I left 2 months ago because in spite of how many times D+ has been brought up or how many times MK/LAT has been discussed, you continually feel the need to plug your own guide of it being 2025 or using the D+ timeline to validate your own guide as some sort of subtle dig at this forum for being wrong either by simply voting against 2025 or simply disagreeing with you.
I left because I felt that maybe if I did, the conversation would mature and move past the same thing that gets mentioned over and over and over again on here. Maybe it was my fault that it continually got brought up as it seemed like we are at odds on this.
But returning to see on the very most recent page literally the same thing again (MK in 2025, the D+ timeline did this or that) it just proved to me that no, nothing did change even with my absence.
I brought Disney + up because Wakanda Forever's placement had literally just been posted and it was a recent topic. It didn't come out of the blue. I mentioned Moon Knight as well just to share that IF you did choose to place it in 2025, it would fit. I'm not saying anyone is wrong or has to change their mind and I respect everyone's opinion on this site.
Oh awesome I must've completely missed your comment. I think this works well. Assuming then Riri Williams built the device for second semester if she started around Jan-Feb, I believe they said it took her just a few months to build, so May makes sense. I also found that the last day of classes for MIT happens mid May so this would show class still in session making that work out well. Honestly I don't think there's any reason why this date doesn't work. Disney+ did good I think, at least in terms of it being before She-Hulk
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Currently rewatching Wakanda Forever and noticed there should be a week's time jump from Namor's attack in Wakanda and the climax (he mentions returning in a week's time). Events like
The climax is looking to be either the 16th or 17th. I'm going back and forth on if the Wakanda attack would fall on the 9th or 10th.
Ramonda's funeral and recreating the heart-shaped herb would happen within this week.
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Looking at MIT's schedule for this year, it seems Final Exams fall on the 19th, and 22nd-24th of May and there is a Summer session that Riri could also be a part of, explaining why she could potentially still be at school in June."
FTFY
"The movie literally had a deleted scene showing a date that matches
FTFY
I bolded what you repeat again and again and again. I struck through the information that isn't needed for both posts, then inserted information that you could have said to backup your claim that you yourself used. Do you see what I'm getting at? Seriously, we get it, you firmly believe that MK is in 2025. Seriously we get it, you firmly believe the D+ timeline is correct or useful to you. As I have mentioned several times on here, I disagree with certain things on this forum during Phase 2 specifically, but I've long since dropped the subject and don't engage with it anymore. This forum is bigger than my continued opinion on that. I just keep my own guide and let this one be what it is.
But seriously...you need to let the jabs to these points go already. It completely turned me off to coming here and I actively started seeking out an alternative group/forum to this one. You simply don't get it. It's almost feels like a nervous tick for you that you HAVE to bring these points up at every single opportunity you have available to you. Like eventually you are going to wear the majority here down to simply give it to you and adjust the guide to your whim. Like I said, I left this site alone for 2 whole months, and when I loaded it up again, it's like I never left.
