Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

Daredevil 2x02: "Dogs to a Gunfight"
At 0:17:25, an autopsy report from the previous day says "7-21-15".

Daredevil 2x07: "Semper Fidelis" (0:00:00 - 0:54:53)
It is summer at the beginning of season 2 and winter at the end. 2x06-2x07 is the only point a timeskip can be placed.

Daredevil 2x13: "A Cold Day in Hell's Kitchen" (0:00:00 - 0:46:35)
At 0:15:21, a December 2015 calendar appears, suggesting it's nearing that month.

Daredevil 2x13: "A Cold Day in Hell's Kitchen" (0:46:36 - 0:52:30)
Ellison tells Karen that it's "Christmas Eve".


Basically, the trial was delayed according to this timeline and our understanding here.
 
Pro Bot said:
People confuse that all the time. They're in the main timeline. If they weren't, the Earth would be destroyed. Official word and the actual show places 5x19-5x22 very clearly during Avengers: Infinity War.

Original Timeline - Black Order attacks, Graviton destroys Earth
MCU Timeline - Black Order attacks, Daisy defeats Graviton, Thanos snaps fingers

If you look, I posted a picture from the Timeline Book that confirms that S.H.I.E.L.D. is still active in 2024. That is only possible if Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is canon, specifically Season 5-7.

The Triskelion was rebuilt. We saw them cleaning up the damage to it in a deleted Spider-Man: Homecoming scene and it looked pretty intact.
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I don't think the deleted scene is showing them rebuilding the Triskelion. You can see in the vfx the helicarrier still in the side of it and MJ even says they're still cleaning up. It doesn't make sense why not much cleanup would be done two years later, but it's a deleted scene, so I don't think it matters anyway.
 
Regardless, the fact that Sarge's team knew that Deke wasn't from their Earth because of their technology but the fact that thst was only a problem for him proves that the timeline the agents returned to after 2091 is the same timeline they left. I'm sick of multiverse head-canon explanations for those seasons. The story is enough to tell us it's the same timeline.
 
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Pro Bot said:
Regardless, the fact that Sarge's team knew that Deke wasn't from their Earth because of their technology but that was only a problem for him proves that the timeline the agents returned to from 2091 is the same timeline. I'm sick of multiverse head-canon explanations for those seasons. The story is enough to tell us it's the same timeline.
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I said nothing about that. I was simply pointing out I don't think the deleted scene was implying the Triskelion was rebuilt, given the crashed helicarrier is also shown. The scene was deleted and the vfx unfinished, so it doesn't matter anyway.
 
Pro Bot said:
How? The only S.H.I.E.L.D. agent was the Steamstress, lol.
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the scene where peter is introduced to Quentin beck in far from home (2024), there was fury, hill and a few other agents like Sergi (not sure if that was his name or not lol) and yes, the seamstress was part of that gang too but again the further along since AoS finished up in 2020, shield gets diminished dramatically until fury's agents are all skrulls/aliens by the time of the marvels although just thinking about fury's personal timeline makes me think there are now 2 separate groups (small group of Human Shield agents on earth) and (the skrulls/aliens running saber).


2018 - contacts shield agent before being snapped
2023 - gets blipped back, attends tony stark's funeral, tells gravik and his skrull agents to collect DNA and leaves earth, gets skrull agent to recruit Monica to saber
2024 - Fury is relaxing on saber with Skrulls and Monica, while Talos and Wife be fury and hill co-ordinating the small cell of Shield agents on earth
2025 - Fury returns to earth, re-unites with Talos and hill, hill is killed, skrulls are massacred by gravik, fury and co. stops gravik's rebellion, heads back to saber with his skrull wife, Fury and Monica, visit the khan house after power entanglement, fury takes the khans to saber which is run by Humans/Skrulls in disguise/aliens or all of the above.


so the skrulls helping to build saber in 2024, where they still on saber just disguised as humans or did they go and live in russia and then get wiped out by gravik?
 
Rman said:
I don't think the deleted scene is showing them rebuilding the Triskelion. You can see in the vfx the helicarrier still in the side of it and MJ even says they're still cleaning up. It doesn't make sense why not much cleanup would be done two years later, but it's a deleted scene, so I don't think it matters anyway.
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Defeated scenes are Canon. They are referenced quite a lot.
 
Megatron said:
Defeated scenes are Canon. They are referenced quite a lot.
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Well, not all of them. Some select ones do conflict with canon IIRC.
Could be wrong, but I think there's one in Age of Ultron that completely changes the narrative.

EDIT: Oh yeah, the guy with the blade arm in Shang-Chi died in a deleted scene but that scene was cut and he's alive in the final film.
 
Let's just all agree hat Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Agent Carter, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Defenders, Inhumans, The Punisher, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger and Helstrom are all 100% canon to the MCU "Sacred Timeline" (although I still think the Sacred Timeline is made up of more than just one Timeline, but in this case I mean the Main MCU)
 
Zeitschiene said:
Let's just all agree hat Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Agent Carter, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Defenders, Inhumans, The Punisher, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger and Helstrom are all 100% canon to the MCU "Sacred Timeline" (although I still think the Sacred Timeline is made up of more than just one Timeline, but in this case I mean the Main MCU)
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They essentially point out in Loki that the "Sacred Timeline" is a collection of timelines fused or tethered into one.

How I look at that is, very very minor differences, "Ripples, not waves" as Mack put it in AoS, but aren't enough to become it's own universe.
 
Zeitschiene said:
Let's just all agree hat Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Agent Carter, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, The Defenders, Inhumans, The Punisher, Runaways, Cloak & Dagger and Helstrom are all 100% canon to the MCU "Sacred Timeline" (although I still think the Sacred Timeline is made up of more than just one Timeline, but in this case I mean the Main MCU)
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Amen to that. Was never doubting that, just trying to fill in old plot holes with theories that make sense to me. so as to explain the disagreement and disjointedness between marvel tv and marvel studios projects.
 
All of AoS is MCU canon but they are totally in a branch timeline by the end of the series.

S01 - S04 (main 616)
S05 - S07 (branched 616, still part of the sacred timeline unlike what if)

which explains all of the inconsistencies with the snap and infinity war events running concurrent with season 5 final episodes and why shield is back to its former glory in the show but still small, scattered shadow cells of agents in the films.
 
FruityWho50 said:
All of AoS is MCU canon but they are totally in a branch timeline by the end of the series.

S01 - S04 (main 616)
S05 - S07 (branched 616, still part of the sacred timeline unlike what if)

which explains all of the inconsistencies with the snap and infinity war events running concurrent with season 5 final episodes and why shield is back to its former glory in the show but still small, scattered shadow cells of agents in the films.
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That 616 Number hurt a lot.
 
FruityWho50 said:
????
MCU = Earth 616/199999

Different Numbering because different interpretations from 2 different universes, both designations are correct.
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Remember: He Who Remains broke off Earth-199999 from the rest of the multiverse. The numeral starting point for a core Marvel reality is "616". In the multiverse as a whole, it's still Earth-199999.
 
FruityWho50 said:
the scene where peter is introduced to Quentin beck in far from home (2024), there was fury, hill and a few other agents like Sergi (not sure if that was his name or not lol) and yes, the seamstress was part of that gang too but again the further along since AoS finished up in 2020, shield gets diminished dramatically until fury's agents are all skrulls/aliens by the time of the marvels although just thinking about fury's personal timeline makes me think there are now 2 separate groups (small group of Human Shield agents on earth) and (the skrulls/aliens running saber).
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Fury's team are NOT S.H.I.E.L.D. agents.
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The Seamstress is a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent who was tasked by "Nick Fury" to create a stealth suit for Peter Parker to use while operating in Europe. Peter Parker informed "Nick Fury" that he could not operate as Spider-Man while in Europe because his identity needed to remain a secret. As a response...
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