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Are we really sure Jay Garrick died in Earth-2? It's hard to believe that, personally.
				
			Oh, I guess Shawn said he died. That's a bit shit.
Also, he and my friend made a comic together. It's called Westron. Some detectives could probably figure out who my friend is...![]()
I don't think I will.
That's cool!In the BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures novel The Gallifrey Chronicles, there is a passing reference to the Doctor having "three ninth incarnations", which was intended to refer to the Ninth Doctor played by Christopher Eccleston in the BBC Wales Doctor Who series, this Ninth Doctor played by Rowan Atkinson and the Ninth Doctor played by Richard E Grant in the Scream of the Shalka webcast.
In the timeline 8 doctor, I think there was a story when he regenerates and then after a while he reverts back into the 8th doctor. So I think that's how?Hiw does it work though? Can smb explain
Twice?In the timeline 8 doctor, I think there was a story when he regenerates and then after a while he reverts back into the 8th doctor. So I think that's how?
Nope?Twice?
Rowan Atkinson's 9th and Richard E Grant's 9th?Nope?
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Omniverse fanzine #1-2 (Alternity Enterprises, 1977-1979) : Mark Gruenwald : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
All two issues of Mark Gruenwald's '70s fanzine about the nature of reality in comic books.archive.org
'Omniverse Magazine' by Mark Gruenwald, who came up with the term Omniverse composed of different multiverses as used by the Marvel comics/Handbooks. In this magazine, he explains his ideas about the Omniverse and how different properties like Disney and Marvel would have their own multiverses etc.
I interpret that as him having gone to the past of Earth-2, but maybe Bart & Nora don't know about the multiverse. Jay not originating on Earth-Prime just because Henry Allen existed is not true a reason; we have Earth-2 Laurel Lance on Earth-Prime despite another Laurel Lance existing there. The same for Nash Wells. That is because Jay, Laurel, and Nash are among many survivors of the original multiverse who are essentially multiversal refugees on Earth-Prime that have the memories of the old world and were regenerated when Oliver and the paragons helped birth the new multiverse.Interesting but I got a completely different take on this. In the Post Crisis timeline Jay could not have originated on Earth Prime. Henry Allen existed there. In the new timeline parts of Earth 2 and 3 combined. Same as Earths 1 and 38, etc combined to create Earth Prime. As much as possible Jay's history on Earth 3 now takes place on new Earth 2. He was only on Prime after Crisis as a flaw in putting the new universe together. As we saw in characters on Batwoman.
Remember what Jay told Impulse - I am directly quoting Arrowverse wikia "When Jay first started to time travel, he ended up fighting Nazis in World War II before living on and off in the past for 16 years."
This is a significant part of Jay's early life in the Post Crisis timeline. If we are using the important rule that Jay is a doppelgänger of Henry Allen and Barry Allen of Earth 90. He was born at same time. Most likely got his powers in 80s or 90s. Time traveled to the 40s, etc. a hold over from EArth 3 is that Jay had little life outside being the Flash. He did not meet Joan Williams until the 2010s. Which makes sense considering he spent a large part of his superhero career in the past with JSA.
On questions of age - clearly the speed force and other supernatural events slowed or stopped it. Similar to other members of the JSA. When we see Jay and Joan in Impulse and XS's future time they look the same age still.
This is mostly from memory! My favorite thing the Arrowverse ever did was casting John Wesley Shipp in all those roles. Particularly Stargirl which was subtlety supported on The Flash with his story of fighting Nazis.