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I just checked the Wings Universe stories, and not only Pete Sinclaire wrote a good chunk of the Wings Universe stories himself, he also served as an editor in almost all of them. So, his word to me is reliable as it gets, especially without knowing what the other creators of Wings Universe say...

Yes but the canon continuation is the G2 story according to Ask Vector Prime and the Regeneration One according to Simon Furman. While Classics was always treated as a splinter timeline. That's what I mean. Peter Sinclair's statement, coming from someone involved in these, is still better than...

It is a branch timeline but it is like how Marvel 2099 is a different reality than 616 in Marvel. Many of the 616 events are canon to 2099/Earth-928 but not vice versa. For Dreamwave, while I could see that, it is still meant to be a different universe. That mentality is probably partially...

Classics is not canon to the OG Marvel series. So what they do there doesn't really tie in to the OG universe. It was a recently emerged splinter universe that was said to occupy the space of a GoBots universe and slowly replacing that reality. None the less, Pete Sinclair says Wings Univese is...

I think they were just using the comic continuity as a stand-in for the actual BB movieverse while also not trying to change the currently sort of active canon of the actual movieverse.

If you were arguing that some version of the BB movie happens in IDW Bayverse, then yes obviously it does according to this. But I don't think the canon version does. Also, the BB movie comic prequel already implies that a version of the BB movie will happen in that story's future. However, it...

@Megatron But in my opinion, this new comic with G1 cartoon CJ surviving into the end of the universe should be added to the G1 cartoon timeline.

Classics was a splinter timeline tho. It wasn't meant to be a canon continuation. (According to AVP at least, that would be the G2 comic). According to Pete Sinclair, Wings Universe is a different reality. https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Wings_Universe#cite_ref-0 "Collectors' Club...

Bruh, it is an alternate version of the BB movie explicitly taking place in a Gamma stream instead of Delta. The other ones (from dead continuities) used the exact designation from which their media was from (Uniend Alpha, Primax Alpha etc.). There is nothing to suggest that the altered...

@Pro Bot This is what Sabrblade (who attented the event) says. Nothing written in this comic affects anything Hasbro is currently working on. These old continuities mean a lot to us fans, but to Hasbro they are considered dead continuities at this point, meaning this comic was able to freely...

And before you say why I am ignoring this and accepting the BB scene taking place in the IDW Bayverse comic universe is because accepting that the entire canon of the G1 cartoon and the Prime cartoon got erased would be over the top, while the BB movie stuff from the CJ comic doesn't harm the...

Face value based on on-panel stuff and the writer's commentary. The connection between Bay comics and the BB movies lacks that. That is the basic difference between the two. The CJ comic thing can't be equated with what you are saying. Simple as that really. 1.) Because here, the writer didn't...

I agree they aren't too reliable (the writers say that the streams don't equate to universes, so it's really confusing). However, in this case, the Cliffjumper comic writer said he used the Gamma designation for a reason. According to the TFWiki link, the writer said he made sure to only use...

I mean even the ROTB director said that he only took the first three Bay movies as semi-canon, and the BB movie director implied he doesn't really care about the previous film continuity and the story he tells is more important. If even the OG movies are of dubious canonicity to the BB movies...

Like that TFWiki article said, the writer explicitly used the Gamma (comic) designation, and not Delta (live action) to not mess with the movie canon. The creator statements give further context to things which were already implied in the comic (Gamma-Delta distinction). But no such context...

Yes, but not with the canon version of the BB and ROTB.

Yeah but we didn't see Barricade really die in DOTM, (if you are talking about the 2007 comic adaptation, that is not canon), while Cliffjumper was cut in half, which seems like a more final death. Sometimes, in the movies, Transformers can survive as a head but even CJ's brain is in two pieces...

If you see the comics and the movies as one timeline, then I can understand seeing it as a branch. IMO, BB movies and the Bayverse comics are a different continuity. Also, remember that the BB movie CJ died in 1987, but the Bayverse comics had him alive in 2007. So, from that point of view...

Apparently, the backstory is that the character is not an actual Cliffjumper but a Decepticon named Ladybug. She is from a universe where Cliffjumpers are mass-produced bots, and people referred to her as a Cliffjumper as well instead of Ladybug due to her resemblance to them. Eventually, she...

Well, this comic and the toy was created in conjunction eith Yolopark, which has the Transformers license, and Botcon, which once had the Transformers license and BotCon fiction was where the universal stream numbers came from. According to the writer, he choose to set it in the Bayverse comic...