Batman Anthology - Timeline

[Pro Bot]

This is the timeline for the Batman movies of 1989-1997, Catwoman 2004, and any associated tie-in material. This reality is designated Earth-89 in the DC Live-Action Multiverse.

Earth-89
Timeline Reasoning
The title sequence of Catwoman showcases a collection of Catwomen throughout history.

Oswald Cobblepot was born 33 years before Batman Returns.

The newspaper about the Wayne's murder in Batman is dated Thursday October 19. 1972's October 19 is on a Thursday, so that year is taken as accurate. This also makes him the youngest he can reasonably be to explain why he is still active in present day (Crisis on Infinite Earths, The Flash).

Batman has several contradictory dates, but in my opinion November 25 is the most prominent and clear date, plus the day of the week on the other newspapers are inaccurate whereas here it is obscured. It's placed in 1989 based on Jack Napier's criminal record.

Batman Returns takes place in late December.

Batman '89 is dated based on October 31st in #1. The artist stated it took place in the mid-90s.

The Earth-89 scene of Supergirl 5x09, "Crisis on Infinite Earths, Part 1" is set on 10 December 2019. Alexander Knox appears, reading a newspaper that suggests Batman and the Joker are active. According to Marc Guggenheim, the Joker is Jack Napier seemingly resurrected.

The Flash features Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne, reprising his role from Batman and Batman Returns.

Batman = 000000
Supergirl = 5DADEC
The Flash = FF0000

Timeline
19??
????
Batman '89 #1, "Shadows: Chapter One" (pg. 14)

1959
December
Batman Returns Chapter 1 (0:00:00 - 0:00:57)

December 25
Batman Returns Chapter 1 (0:00:58 - 0:02:22)
Batman Returns Chapter 2 (0:02:23 - 0:05:30)

1972
October 18
Batman Chapter 29 (1:30:15 - 1:32:10)

1989
November 24
Batman Chapter 2 (0:02:33 - 0:07:03)
Batman Chapter 3 (0:07:04 - 0:09:26)
Batman Chapter 4 (0:09:27 - 0:12:21)

November 25
Batman Chapter 5 (0:12:22 - 0:14:41)
Batman Chapter 6 (0:14:42 - 0:17:03)
Batman Chapter 7 (0:17:04 - 0:20:05)
Batman Chapter 8 (0:20:06 - 0:23:57)
Batman Chapter 9 (0:23:58 - 0:27:05)
Batman Chapter 10 (0:27:06 - 0:30:25)

November 26
Batman Chapter 11 (0:30:26 - 0:34:12)
Batman Chapter 12 (0:34:13 - 0:36:13)
Batman Chapter 13 (0:36:14 - 0:38:24)
Batman Chapter 14 (0:38:25 - 0:39:56)

November 27
Batman Chapter 14 (0:39:57 - 0:41:05)
Batman Chapter 15 (0:41:06 - 0:45:06)
Batman Chapter 16 (0:45:07 - 0:48:06)
Batman Chapter 17 (0:48:07 - 0:50:51)
Batman Chapter 18 (0:51:52 - 0:54:18)

November 28
Batman Chapter 19 (0:54:19 - 0:57:53)

November 29
Batman Chapter 20 (0:57:54 - 0:59:33)
Batman Chapter 21 (0:59:34 - 1:06:37)
Batman Chapter 22 (1:06:38 - 1:12:23)
Batman Chapter 23 (1:12:24 - 1:16:16)

November 30
Batman Chapter 23 (1:16:17 - 1:16:28)
Batman Chapter 24 (1:16:29 - 1:18:18)
Batman Chapter 25 (1:18:19 - 1:21:10)
Batman Chapter 26 (1:21:11 - 1:25:29)
Batman Chapter 27 (1:25:30 - 1:27:24)
Batman Chapter 28 (1:27:25 - 1:29:32)
Batman Chapter 29 (1:29:33 - 1:30:14)
Batman Chapter 29 (1:32:11 - 1:33:57)
Batman Chapter 30 (1:33:58 - 1:35:49)

December 1
Batman Chapter 31 (1:35:50 - 1:38:15)
Batman Chapter 32 (1:38:16 - 1:42:43)
Batman Chapter 33 (1:42:44 - 1:46:33)
Batman Chapter 34 (1:46:34 - 1:50:10)
Batman Chapter 35 (1:50:11 - 1:53:19)
Batman Chapter 36 (1:53:20 - 1:59:42)
Batman Chapter 37 (1:59:43 - 2:01:29)

1992
December
Batman Returns Chapter 3 (0:05:31 - 0:07:09)
Batman Returns Chapter 4 (0:07:10 - 0:09:22)
Batman Returns Chapter 5 (0:09:23 - 0:12:47)
Batman Returns Chapter 6 (0:12:48 - 0:17:12)
Batman Returns Chapter 7 (0:17:13 - 0:23:11)
Batman Returns Chapter 8 (0:23:12 - 0:25:18)
Batman Returns Chapter 9 (0:25:19 - 0:28:29)
Batman Returns Chapter 10 (0:28:30 - 0:33:50)
Batman Returns Chapter 11 (0:33:51 - 0:40:26)
Batman Returns Chapter 12 (0:40:27 - 0:43:03)
Batman Returns Chapter 13 (0:43:04 - 0:44:11)
Batman Returns Chapter 14 (0:44:12 - 0:48:30)
Batman Returns Chapter 15 (0:48:31 - 0:54:08)
Batman Returns Chapter 16 (0:54:09 - 0:55:47)
Batman Returns Chapter 17 (0:55:48 - 0:57:59)
Batman Returns Chapter 18 (0:58:00 - 0:59:43)
Batman Returns Chapter 19 (0:59:44 - 1:02:15)
Batman Returns Chapter 20 (1:02:16 - 1:07:47)
Batman Returns Chapter 21 (1:07:48 - 1:10:01)
Batman Returns Chapter 22 (1:10:02 - 1:13:08)
Batman Returns Chapter 23 (1:13:09 - 1:17:58)
Batman Returns Chapter 24 (1:17:59 - 1:20:42)
Batman Returns Chapter 25 (1:20:43 - 1:22:29)
Batman Returns Chapter 26 (1:22:30 - 1:26:43)
Batman Returns Chapter 27 (1:26:44 - 1:31:44)
Batman Returns Chapter 28 (1:31:45 - 1:33:47)
Batman Returns Chapter 29 (1:33:48 - 1:38:13)
Batman Returns Chapter 30 (1:38:14 - 1:40:38)
Batman Returns Chapter 31 (1:40:39 - 1:42:43)
Batman Returns Chapter 32 (1:42:44 - 1:44:08)
Batman Returns Chapter 33 (1:44:09 - 1:48:42)
Batman Returns Chapter 34 (1:48:43 - 1:50:45)
Batman Returns Chapter 35 (1:50:46 - 1:53:55)
Batman Returns Chapter 36 (1:54:56 - 1:55:46)
Batman Returns Chapter 37 (1:55:47 - 1:58:21)
Batman Returns Chapter 38 (1:58:22 - 2:00:50)

1993
October 31
Batman '89 #1, "Shadows: Chapter One" (pg. 1-10)

November 1
Batman '89 #1, "Shadows: Chapter One" (pg. 10-20)
Batman '89 #2, "Shadows: Chapter Two" (pg. 1-3)

November 2
Batman '89 #2, "Shadows: Chapter Two" (pg. 4-20)
Batman '89 #3, "Shadows: Chapter Three" (pg. 1-10)

November 3
Batman '89 #3, "Shadows: Chapter Three" (pg. 11-20)
Batman '89 #4, "Shadows: Chapter Four" (pg. 1-8)

November 4
Batman '89 #4, "Shadows: Chapter Four" (pg. 9-20)

November
Batman '89 #5, "Shadows: Chapter Five"
Batman '89 #6, "Shadows: Chapter Six"**

2019
December 10
Supergirl 5x09, "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 1" (0:01:28 - 0:01:42) [Pre-Crisis]

2022
????
The Flash** (November 4, 2022)

Viewing Order
Batman
Batman Returns
Batman '89 #1, "Shadows: Chapter One"
Batman '89 #2, "Shadows: Chapter Two"
Batman '89 #3, "Shadows: Chapter Three"
Batman '89 #4, "Shadows: Chapter Four"
Batman '89 #5, "Shadows: Chapter Five"
Batman '89 #6, "Shadows: Chapter Six"
Supergirl 5x09, "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 1"
The Flash** (November 4, 2022)

 

[Pro Bot]

Earth-97
Timeline Reasoning
Oswald Cobblepot was born 33 years before Batman Returns.

The newspaper about the Wayne's murder in Batman is dated Thursday October 19. It is assumed to have occurred concurrently with Earth-89's version of events.

The wake of Thomas Wayne and Martha Wayne as shown in Batman Forever is between 1-2 weeks after their death.

Bruce Wayne and Alfred look the same age between flashbacks in Batman & Robin and Batman Forever.

Batman has several contradictory dates, but in my opinion November 25 is the most prominent and clear date, plus the day of the week on the other newspapers are inaccurate whereas here it is obscured. It's placed in 1989 based on Jack Napier's criminal record.

Batman Returns takes place in late December.

Batman Forever is set in October, and the dates are worked back from Halloween. It's placed in 1995 based on release year.

Batman & Robin is set an indeterminate amount of time after Batman Forever. It's placed in 1997 based on release year.

Catwoman is set an indeterminate amount of time after Batman Returns based on Selina Kyle being an existing Catwoman. It's placed in it's year of release.

Catwoman 80th Anniversary, "Now You See Me" is set an indeterminate amount of time after Batman Returns. It is placed based on technology and ages of characters.

Batman = 000000
Catwoman = D4AF37

Timeline
1959
December
Batman Returns Chapter 1 (0:00:00 - 0:00:57)

December 25
Batman Returns Chapter 1 (0:00:58 - 0:02:22)
Batman Returns Chapter 2 (0:02:23 - 0:05:30)

1972
October 18
Batman Chapter 29 (1:30:15 - 1:31:06)
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:44:40 - 0:45:47)
Batman Chapter 29 (1:31:07 - 1:31:26)
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:44:50 - 0:44:53)
Batman Chapter 29 (1:31:27 - 1:31:36)
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:44:56 - 0:45:00)
Batman Chapter 29 (1:31:37 - 1:32:10)
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:45:03 - 0:45:09)

October
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:45:13 - 0:46:00)
Batman Forever Chapter 27 (1:29:11 - 1:30:53)

1973
????
Batman & Robin Chapter 7 (0:23:43 - 0:23:55)
Batman & Robin Chapter 17 (0:53:11 - 0:53:21)
Batman & Robin Chapter 29 (1:30:14 - 1:30:22)

1989
November 24
Batman Chapter 2 (0:02:33 - 0:07:03)
Batman Chapter 3 (0:07:04 - 0:09:26)
Batman Chapter 4 (0:09:27 - 0:12:21)

November 25
Batman Chapter 5 (0:12:22 - 0:14:41)
Batman Chapter 6 (0:14:42 - 0:17:03)
Batman Chapter 7 (0:17:04 - 0:20:05)
Batman Chapter 8 (0:20:06 - 0:23:57)
Batman Chapter 9 (0:23:58 - 0:27:05)
Batman Chapter 10 (0:27:06 - 0:30:25)

November 26
Batman Chapter 11 (0:30:26 - 0:34:12)
Batman Chapter 12 (0:34:13 - 0:36:13)
Batman Chapter 13 (0:36:14 - 0:38:24)
Batman Chapter 14 (0:38:25 - 0:39:56)

November 27
Batman Chapter 14 (0:39:57 - 0:41:05)
Batman Chapter 15 (0:41:06 - 0:45:06)
Batman Chapter 16 (0:45:07 - 0:48:06)
Batman Chapter 17 (0:48:07 - 0:50:51)
Batman Chapter 18 (0:51:52 - 0:54:18)

November 28
Batman Chapter 19 (0:54:19 - 0:57:53)

November 29
Batman Chapter 20 (0:57:54 - 0:59:33)
Batman Chapter 21 (0:59:34 - 1:06:37)
Batman Chapter 22 (1:06:38 - 1:12:23)
Batman Chapter 23 (1:12:24 - 1:16:16)

November 30
Batman Chapter 23 (1:16:17 - 1:16:28)
Batman Chapter 24 (1:16:29 - 1:18:18)
Batman Chapter 25 (1:18:19 - 1:21:10)
Batman Chapter 26 (1:21:11 - 1:25:29)
Batman Chapter 27 (1:25:30 - 1:27:24)
Batman Chapter 28 (1:27:25 - 1:29:32)
Batman Chapter 29 (1:29:33 - 1:30:14)
Batman Chapter 29 (1:32:11 - 1:33:57)
Batman Chapter 30 (1:33:58 - 1:35:49)

December 1
Batman Chapter 31 (1:35:50 - 1:38:15)
Batman Chapter 32 (1:38:16 - 1:42:43)
Batman Chapter 33 (1:42:44 - 1:46:33)
Batman Chapter 34 (1:46:34 - 1:50:10)
Batman Chapter 35 (1:50:11 - 1:53:19)
Batman Chapter 36 (1:53:20 - 1:59:42)
Batman Chapter 37 (1:59:43 - 2:01:29)

1992
December
Batman Returns Chapter 3 (0:05:31 - 0:07:09)
Batman Returns Chapter 4 (0:07:10 - 0:09:22)
Batman Returns Chapter 5 (0:09:23 - 0:12:47)
Batman Returns Chapter 6 (0:12:48 - 0:17:12)
Batman Returns Chapter 7 (0:17:13 - 0:23:11)
Batman Returns Chapter 8 (0:23:12 - 0:25:18)
Batman Returns Chapter 9 (0:25:19 - 0:28:29)
Batman Returns Chapter 10 (0:28:30 - 0:33:50)
Batman Returns Chapter 11 (0:33:51 - 0:40:26)
Batman Returns Chapter 12 (0:40:27 - 0:43:03)
Batman Returns Chapter 13 (0:43:04 - 0:44:11)
Batman Returns Chapter 14 (0:44:12 - 0:48:30)
Batman Returns Chapter 15 (0:48:31 - 0:54:08)
Batman Returns Chapter 16 (0:54:09 - 0:55:47)
Batman Returns Chapter 17 (0:55:48 - 0:57:59)
Batman Returns Chapter 18 (0:58:00 - 0:59:43)
Batman Returns Chapter 19 (0:59:44 - 1:02:15)
Batman Returns Chapter 20 (1:02:16 - 1:07:47)
Batman Returns Chapter 21 (1:07:48 - 1:10:01)
Batman Returns Chapter 22 (1:10:02 - 1:13:08)
Batman Returns Chapter 23 (1:13:09 - 1:17:58)
Batman Returns Chapter 24 (1:17:59 - 1:20:42)
Batman Returns Chapter 25 (1:20:43 - 1:22:29)
Batman Returns Chapter 26 (1:22:30 - 1:26:43)
Batman Returns Chapter 27 (1:26:44 - 1:31:44)
Batman Returns Chapter 28 (1:31:45 - 1:33:47)
Batman Returns Chapter 29 (1:33:48 - 1:38:13)
Batman Returns Chapter 30 (1:38:14 - 1:40:38)
Batman Returns Chapter 31 (1:40:39 - 1:42:43)
Batman Returns Chapter 32 (1:42:44 - 1:44:08)
Batman Returns Chapter 33 (1:44:09 - 1:48:42)
Batman Returns Chapter 34 (1:48:43 - 1:50:45)
Batman Returns Chapter 35 (1:50:46 - 1:53:55)
Batman Returns Chapter 36 (1:54:56 - 1:55:46)
Batman Returns Chapter 37 (1:55:47 - 1:58:21)
Batman Returns Chapter 38 (1:58:22 - 2:00:50)

1995
October 23
Batman Forever Chapter 1 (0:01:10 - 0:02:17)
Batman Forever Chapter 2 (0:02:18 - 0:05:30)
Batman Forever Chapter 3 (0:05:31 - 0:10:10)
Batman Forever Chapter 4 (0:10:11 - 0:12:40)

October 24
Batman Forever Chapter 5 (0:12:41 - 0:16:36)
Batman Forever Chapter 6 (0:16:37 - 0:19:55)
Batman Forever Chapter 7 (0:19:56 - 0:24:51)

October 25
Batman Forever Chapter 8 (0:24:52 - 0:29:09)

October 26
Batman Forever Chapter 9 (0:29:10 - 0:32:56)
Batman Forever Chapter 10 (0:32:57 - 0:41:02)

October 27
Batman Forever Chapter 11 (0:41:03 - 0:44:09)
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:44:10 - 0:40:39)
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:44:48 - 0:44:49)
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:44:54 - 0:44:55)
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:45:01 - 0:45:02)
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:45:10 - 0:45:12)
Batman Forever Chapter 12 (0:46:01 - 0:46:51)
Batman Forever Chapter 13 (0:46:52 - 0:48:08)
Batman Forever Chapter 14 (0:48:09 - 0:50:49)
Batman Forever Chapter 15 (0:50:50 - 0:56:48)
Batman Forever Chapter 16 (0:56:49 - 0:56:52)

October 28
Batman Forever Chapter 16 (0:56:53 - 0:58:16)

October 29
Batman Forever Chapter 17 (0:58:17 - 1:00:41)

October 30
Batman Forever Chapter 17 (1:00:42 - 1:01:50)
Batman Forever Chapter 18 (1:01:51 - 1:04:44)
Batman Forever Chapter 19 (1:04:45 - 1:08:37)
Batman Forever Chapter 20 (1:08:38 - 1:10:24)
Batman Forever Chapter 21 (1:10:25 - 1:15:13)
Batman Forever Chapter 22 (1:15:14 - 1:19:55)
Batman Forever Chapter 23 (1:19:56 - 1:21:59)

October 31
Batman Forever Chapter 24 (1:22:00 - 1:24:06)
Batman Forever Chapter 25 (1:24:07 - 1:24:58)
Batman Forever Chapter 26 (1:24:59 - 1:26:17)
Batman Forever Chapter 27 (1:26:18 - 1:29:10)
Batman Forever Chapter 27 (1:29:11 - 1:30:53) (Sound Only)
Batman Forever Chapter 27 (1:30:54 - 1:31:35)
Batman Forever Chapter 28 (1:31:36 - 1:35:50)

November 1
Batman Forever Chapter 29 (1:36:31 - 1:37:24)
Batman Forever Chapter 30 (1:37:25 - 1:39:55)
Batman Forever Chapter 31 (1:39:56 - 1:41:11)
Batman Forever Chapter 32 (1:41:12 - 1:42:53)
Batman Forever Chapter 33 (1:42:54 - 1:44:58)
Batman Forever Chapter 34 (1:44:59 - 1:52:35)
Batman Forever Chapter 35 (1:52:36 - 1:53:44)
Batman Forever Chapter 36 (1:53:45 - 1:54:41)

November
Batman Forever Chapter 37 (1:54:42 - 1:56:03)
Batman Forever Chapter 38 (1:56:04 - 1:57:32)

December
Batman & Robin: Robin: Facing the Enemy

1997
????
Batman & Robin Chapter 1 (0:01:13 - 0:03:50)
Batman & Robin Chapter 2 (0:03:51 - 0:09:12)
Batman & Robin Chapter 3 (0:09:13 - 0:13:25)
Batman & Robin Chapter 4 (0:13:26 - 0:15:11)
Batman & Robin Chapter 5 (0:15:12 - 0:19:09)
Batman & Robin Chapter 6 (0:19:10 - 0:21:00)
Batman & Robin Chapter 7 (0:21:01 - 0:23:42)
Batman & Robin Chapter 7 (0:23:56 - 0:24:03)
Batman & Robin Chapter 8 (0:24:04 - 0:26:35)
Batman & Robin Chapter 9 (0:26:36 - 0:29:12)
Batman & Robin Chapter 10 (0:29:13 - 0:31:41)
Batman & Robin Chapter 11 (0:31:42 - 0:33:58)
Batman & Robin Chapter 12 (0:33:59 - 0:38:41)
Batman & Robin Chapter 13 (0:38:42 - 0:39:54)
Batman & Robin Chapter 14 (0:39:55 - 0:45:31)
Batman & Robin Chapter 15 (0:45:32 - 0:48:47)
Batman & Robin Chapter 16 (0:48:48 - 0:50:53)
Batman & Robin Chapter 17 (0:50:54 - 0:53:10)
Batman & Robin Chapter 17 (0:53:22 - 0:54:27)
Batman & Robin Chapter 18 (0:54:28 - 0:56:23)
Batman & Robin Chapter 19 (0:56:24 - 0:59:29)
Batman & Robin Chapter 20 (0:59:30 - 1:01:04)
Batman & Robin Chapter 21 (1:01:05 - 1:06:00)
Batman & Robin Chapter 22 (1:06:01 - 1:07:47)
Batman & Robin Chapter 23 (1:07:48 - 1:12:16)
Batman & Robin Chapter 24 (1:12:17 - 1:16:00)
Batman & Robin Chapter 25 (1:16:01 - 1:20:16)
Batman & Robin Chapter 26 (1:20:17 - 1:22:59)
Batman & Robin Chapter 27 (1:23:00 - 1:25:40)
Batman & Robin Chapter 28 (1:25:41 - 1:28:47)
Batman & Robin Chapter 29 (1:28:48 - 1:30:13)
Batman & Robin Chapter 29 (1:30:23 - 1:32:01)
Batman & Robin Chapter 30 (1:32:02 - 1:33:24)
Batman & Robin Chapter 31 (1:33:25 - 1:35:15)
Batman & Robin Chapter 32 (1:35:16 - 1:36:24)
Batman & Robin Chapter 33 (1:36:25 - 1:41:20)
Batman & Robin Chapter 34 (1:41:21 - 1:44:21)
Batman & Robin Chapter 35 (1:44:22 - 1:48:31)
Batman & Robin Chapter 36 (1:48:32 - 1:49:53)
Batman & Robin Chapter 37 (1:49:54 - 1:51:43)
Batman & Robin Chapter 38 (1:51:44 - 1:53:33)
Batman & Robin Chapter 39 (1:53:34 - 1:56:28)
Batman & Robin Chapter 40 (1:56:29 - 1:57:25)
Batman & Robin Chapter 41 (1:57:26 - 1:50:40)
Batman & Robin: Batgirl: To Dare the Darkness

2000
????
Catwoman 80th Anniversary, "Now You See Me"

2004
????
Catwoman Chapter 2 (0:03:51 - 0:07:35)
Catwoman Chapter 3 (0:07:36 - 0:11:43)
Catwoman Chapter 4 (0:11:44 - 0:15:37)
Catwoman Chapter 5 (0:15:38 - 0:20:32)
Catwoman Chapter 2 (0:03:24 - 0:03:50)
Catwoman Chapter 6 (0:20:33 - 0:24:05)
Catwoman Chapter 7 (0:24:06 - 0:26:28)
Catwoman Chapter 8 (0:26:29 - 0:28:47)
Catwoman Chapter 9 (0:28:48 - 0:31:59)
Catwoman Chapter 10 (0:32:00 - 0:34:49)
Catwoman Chapter 11 (0:34:50 - 0:37:26)
Catwoman Chapter 12 (0:37:27 - 0:40:24)
Catwoman Chapter 13 (0:40:25 - 0:44:40)
Catwoman Chapter 14 (0:44:41 - 0:49:01)
Catwoman Chapter 15 (0:49:02 - 0:52:56)
Catwoman Chapter 16 (0:52:57 - 0:55:34)
Catwoman Chapter 17 (0:55:35 - 0:57:59)
Catwoman Chapter 18 (0:58:00 - 1:01:15)
Catwoman Chapter 19 (1:01:16 - 1:03:27)
Catwoman Chapter 20 (1:03:28 - 1:07:29)
Catwoman Chapter 21 (1:07:30 - 1:11:14)
Catwoman Chapter 22 (1:11:15 - 1:14:38)
Catwoman Chapter 23 (1:14:39 - 1:17:27)
Catwoman Chapter 24 (1:17:28 - 1:20:41)
Catwoman Chapter 25 (1:20:42 - 1:22:58)
Catwoman Chapter 26 (1:22:59 - 1:25:00)
Catwoman Chapter 27 (1:25:01 - 1:28:00)
Catwoman Chapter 28 (1:28:01 - 1:33:01)
Catwoman Chapter 29 (1:33:02 - 1:34:29)

Viewing Order
Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Forever
Batman & Robin: Robin: Facing the Enemy
Batman & Robin
Batman & Robin: Batgirl: To Dare the Darkness
Catwoman 80th Anniversary, "Now You See Me"
Catwoman
Note: Earth number disputed, potentially Pre-Crisis Earth-89

 

[Pro Bot]

I'm watching '89, and a Newspaper at the start has the date November 25, then another November 14, then November 7 in that order.

Based on this, I'm going with:
November 25 is correct
November 14 is incorrect
November 6 is incorrect, but is taken as December 6 because of a short time jump since Joker unleashed his "product"

Is this fair?

Also, did some math to work out when Thomas and Martha were murdered using Michael Keaton's age, since he's the original and most prominent Batman actor, and I'm surprised how close the flashbacks are.

Theres a newspaper reporting on the event dated what looks like October 19th. Since it happened at night, I'd assume it would have been released the following day, pacing in on October 18th.

 

[selfishmisery]

I'm watching '89, and a Newspaper at the start has the date November 25, then another November 14, then November 7 in that order.

Based on this, I'm going with:
November 25 is correct
November 14 is incorrect
November 6 is incorrect, but is taken as December 6 because of a short time jump since Joker unleashed his laughing "product"

Is this fair?

Which one is this one? Was this in the movie?

 

[selfishmisery]

Or this one?

 

[selfishmisery]

Those are props from the movie btw.

 

[Pro Bot]

Which one is this one? Was this in the movie?

Chapter 6: November 25
Chapter 20: November 14
Chapter 24: November 7

I haven't seen that one.

I have noticed how much the film wants to be 1947, however.

This film is all kinds of contradictory. It does seem to be mostly consistently set in November, at least.

Edit:
Chapter 11: Batman foils Robbery

No close up on the newspaper, so I think that one can be discarded.

Chapter 14: WFTGG

This one is more clear, but it's just not as concrete as the other more clear dates.

So:
Chapter 6: November 25
Chapter 11: October 18
Chapter 14: November 11
Chapter 20: November 14
Chapter 24: November 7

Definitely November.

 

[Pro Bot]

https://link.hollywoodreporter.com/view/518d565b191b2a646dbe685cccj4v.gah/416289b3

Michael Keaton is in talks to return as Batman. (And by Batman, we also mean Bruce Wayne. Despite pesky rumors from certain corners, there is no Thomas Wayne in the script, sources tell us. Also: Keaton would appear in costume.)

Sad, no Thomas Wayne. It seems that this keeps continuity with the Crisis cameo, since Bruce is still Batman.

 

[Doctor7batman89]

So it will basically be like superman returns where superman 3 and 4 were not mentioned.

 

[Pro Bot]

So it will basically be like superman returns where superman 3 and 4 were not mentioned.

Possibly. For the purpose of this timeline, I'm gonna include it all until that is fully 100% clear and The Flash is incompatible with those films.

It's confirmed the Schumacher films are in Earth-89, per Crisis aftermath and a review about Catwoman on the official DC YouTube channel, and it's confirmed they're disregarding them according to TheWrap. I'm assuming that The Flash will have Keaton come from Earth-89.

I can think of a couple explanations.
1. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin are retroactively a different Earth, say Earth-95, where Batman and Batman Returns happened but The Flash didn't.

2. Batman Forever and Batman & Robin still happened but are ignored for the sake of them being unpopular. (My hope)

3. Keaton comes from a different universe (imagine Earth-96, would be awesome) where the Schumacher films didn't happen.

4. In the new multiverse after Crisis, Earth-89 diverged after 1992 into the reality that is shown in The Flash, even though they hinted that the universes are restored to their original history (I assume Oliver felt sorry for Clark in Earth-96).

I'm holding out till 2022. It's a long time, anything could happen. I've seen possibly completely false reports that it's just a cameo, and if that's the case, it's basically the same Batman. If he has a substantial role, it depends. I guess the only thing that could really separate them is if he says that Two-Face is still around dispite his death in Batman Forever, though I suppose if Joker is alive anyone could be.

On a smaller note, if Superman Returns didn't contradict Superman III, I'd include them as the same continuity, especially because of the Superman III reference in Crisis, but they can't be because Martha Kent died in Superman III.

 

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Catwoman 80th Anniversary 100-Page Super Spectacular Vol 1 1

"Skin the Cat": The synopsis for this issue has not yet been written. Catwoman 80th Anniversary 100-Page Super Spectacular#1 is a one-shot with a cover date of August, 2020. It was published on June 2, 2020.

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The second story is clearly the Burtonverse. Catwoman wears the same suit. The wiki seems to agree, too.

However, Penguin appears on a computer screen alive. Should it be assumed the story is somehow during Batman Returns, dispite the fact that Penguin looks majorly different to Danny Devito, or that Penguin was resurrected/had a successor, like Joker? I'm more leaning to the successor idea. Seems more likely. I mean... just look at him.


Hell, maybe this is canon now, haha.
I always thought of it more as a Birds of Prey prequel, the actor and suit matching that continuity, but let's take a look at it with the new information.

Pros
Batsuit
Batmobile
'89 theme
Alfred Pennyworth

Cons
Joker (retroactively alive/replaced)
Penguin (retroactively alive/replaced)
Riddler without brain injury

The only error that now exists is Riddler, but I suppose he could have recovered eventually. He gave me very Jim Carrey vibes in that scene.

Vicki Vale and James Gordon also appear. Recasts aren't a problem and we only heard James Gordon's voice. I guess Bruce and Vicki got back together.

 

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Catwoman 80th Anniversary 100-Page Super Spectacular Vol 1 1

"Skin the Cat": The synopsis for this issue has not yet been written. Catwoman 80th Anniversary 100-Page Super Spectacular#1 is a one-shot with a cover date of August, 2020. It was published on June 2, 2020.

dc.fandom.com

The second story is clearly the Burtonverse. Catwoman wears the same suit. The wiki seems to agree, too.

However, Penguin appears on a computer screen alive. Should it be assumed the story is somehow during Batman Returns, dispite the fact that Penguin looks majorly different to Danny Devito, or that Penguin was resurrected/had a successor, like Joker? I'm more leaning to the successor idea. Seems more likely. I mean... just look at him.
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Hell, maybe this is canon now, haha.
I always thought of it more as a Birds of Prey prequel, the actor and suit matching that continuity, but let's take a look at it with the new information.

Pros
Batsuit
Batmobile
'89 theme
Alfred Pennyworth

Cons
Joker (retroactively alive/replaced)
Penguin (retroactively alive/replaced)
Riddler without brain injury

The only error that now exists is Riddler, but I suppose he could have recovered eventually. He gave me very Jim Carrey vibes in that scene.

Vicki Vale and James Gordon also appear. Recast aren't a problem and we only heard James Gordon's voice. I guess Bruce and Vicki got back together.

Birds of Prey resembles the Burtonverse, but more or less the same way Titans looks like the DCEU - but they're not connected.

Side note: but Lois & Clark (the 90s TV series) did have the Burtonverse Batmobile in one episode. If anything, Birds of Prey and Lois & Clark are their own little shared universe. Probably not, but the Burtonverse still doesn't fit with those two shows.

 

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Birds of Prey resembles the Burtonverse, but more or less the same way Titans looks like the DCEU - but they're not connected.

Side note: but Lois & Clark (the 90s TV series) did have the Burtonverse Batmobile in one episode. If anything, Birds of Prey and Lois & Clark are their own little shared universe. Probably not, but the Burtonverse still doesn't fit with those two shows.

I was suggesting that OnStar could be in the Burtonverse now that we know canonically a new version of Penguin exists, but I used to pretend that it was in the Birds of Prey continuity, since the actor and suit match.

Essentially, I always took OnStar as a silly non-canon advertisement, but seeing how both Joker and penguin exist (see above image) after their deaths, and the various connections to the Burtonverse, I guess OnStar is canon now.

How does Lois & Clark contradict the Burtonverse? I'm pretty sure the only thing we know about that version of Batman is that he had the same Batmobile from the first two Batman films, and it was stolen.

I suppose you could argue that the original Burtonverse Batmobile was destroyed, though if you take OnStar as canon, which seems to be supported by Catwoman 80th Anniversary, "Now You See Me", which features the Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman and a tv screen with not Danny DeVito's Penguin, then Batman recreated that version of the Batmobile. Perhaps he got sick of the disco ball and felt he needed a retro touch.

 

[Pro Bot]

DC Fandome

Earth-89 Batman's Batsuit and Batmobile concept art.

Not the only multiverse crossover.

 

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I watched the clip from Lois & Clark with the Batmobile. A very similar theme to the '89 theme plays, or a least I think it did. They state that they're "batty" about having it, it being a one of a kind car.

I don't particularly want to add it, but it makes sense. Batman has his car stolen, and ends up with a new one in Batman Forever. Batman Forever references Metropolis, and Batman & Robin references Superman, with Metropolis being referenced in a deleted scene.

Having the '89 Batmobile doesn't technically mean it's in this universe, though. Earth-99's Batman, played by Kevin Conroy in Crisis on Infinite Earths, had the '89 Batmobile too.

If I did, it would be too inconsequential to matter, unless '89 Superman appears in The Flash or something. The only point would be to be complete.

Edit: Now that I think about it, it could explain how he has the '89 Batmobile in OnStar and The Flash. It was stolen, he replaced it, and then acquired it again.

I guess I could include it, leave a note explaining that it's canonicity is debatable, and if it ends up another earth, move it. No big deal. Though, if it is connected, Wonder Woman exists in this universe.

Now that I think about it, surely Batman would mention whether his world has a Flash in The Flash. Someone did have a Jay Garrick helmet in Batman Returns...

 

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Michael Keaton, Not Ben Affleck, Set To Be Main Batman In DCEU Franchise

Walter Hamada's recent statement indicates that Michael Keaton, not Ben Affleck, will be the primary Batman of the DCEU going forward.

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I guess that this universe is going to get a proper revival?

 

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Michael Keaton, Not Ben Affleck, Set To Be Main Batman In DCEU Franchise

Walter Hamada's recent statement indicates that Michael Keaton, not Ben Affleck, will be the primary Batman of the DCEU going forward.

thedirect.com

I guess that this universe is going to get a proper revival?
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No.

 

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No.

Yeah, I saw.

Oh well.

 

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but there's this

DC Returns to Batman '89 and Superman '78 In New Comic Series

Two beloved classic superhero films are making their way to comics, as DC has just announced the [...]

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I'd guess Batman '89 takes place in 1993, maybe but not definitely retconing the Schumacher films into pre-crisis ready for The Flash, and Superman '78 takes place between 2015-2019, or perhaps even post-crisis.

Maybe they'll even confirm that the Superman film series takes place in the 1970s and 1980s as originally intended.

Or maybe Christopher Reeve is post-crisis and Superman Returns is Pre-Crisis.