Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 2)

Rman said:
I think for now I'm leaning toward a September 2025 date for Wakanda Forever.
  1. It would place T'Challa's death in September 2024. A time we've only seen briefly in other movies/shows when Peter returns back to school in No Way Home. By the time that movie jumps to its main events in early/Mid-November enough time would pass for T'Challa's death to not be brought up.
  2. It works with the Summer like weather shown in the movie and still allows Riri to be at school.
  3. If Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania is set around Cassie's birthday (September 25th), this placement would fit with a reference to Scott being on his book tour (something that usually lasts a week or two). Which we know is a scene in the movie.
  4. While he's not always accurate, it would fit with Nate Moore's comments about the movie being "almost concurrent" with Ant-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania.
  5. If Secret Invasion is November 2025 (based on the Unity Day scenes), it would mean that Ross has been on the run for a couple of months.
Essentially, this would place the movie between She-Hulk and Ms. Marvel.
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I think that's better placement than Spring. I agree with you.
 
Yeah it’s definitely a pain atm to place anything in the MCU anymore just because literally everything is happening literally months or hours apart from each project but the sad part is no one can give us a concrete answer it just grinds my gears

Still gonna wait until it pops up on Disney+ for their opinion but it feels like such a chore now

This is what I have for everything in 2025 atm which is still in flux
(2023 and 2024 are by this point set in stone imo)

She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E01 Mid-Credits Scene
Moon Knight S01E01 - S01E06
Thor: Love and Thunder
Thor: Love and Thunder Post-Credits Scene
Thor: Love and Thunder Mid-Credits Scene
Moon Knight S01E06 Mid-Credits Scene

She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E01?

Spider-Man: No Way Home (The More Fun Stuff Version) Post-Credits Scene

She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E01?

She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E02
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E02 Mid-Credits Scene
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E03
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E03 Mid-Credits Scene
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E04
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E04 Mid-Credits Scene
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E05 - S01E09
She-Hulk: Attorney at Law S01E09 Mid-Credits Scene
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
Black Panther: Wakanda Forever Mid-Credits Scene
Ms.Marvel S01E01
Ms.Marvel S01E01 Mid-Credits Scene
Ms.Marvel S01E02 - S01E06
Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania

Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania Mid-Credits Scene?
Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania Post-Credits Scene?

Ms.Marvel S01E06 Mid-Credits Scene
Werewolf by Night

Secret Invasion S01E01 - S01E06

The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special Post-Credits Scene
 
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Since the early Jane scenes have a sample bottle with 4/30 date on it are you moving Moon Knight back into April or putting it between the Jane scenes and the rest of Love and Thunder?

Also, I don't know if anyone caught this but on the final Morbius end credit scene, he looks at his watch and it reads 2:54:53 on Sat 23rd. This happens in November 2024 and the next time is August 2025.
 
Silvguard said:
Since the early Jane scenes have a sample bottle with 4/30 date on it are you moving Moon Knight back into April or putting it between the Jane scenes and the rest of Love and Thunder?

Also, I don't know if anyone caught this but on the final Morbius end credit scene, he looks at his watch and it reads 2:54:53 on Sat 23rd. This happens in November 2024 and the next time is August 2025.
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I have the final Morbius scene in 2021. In that year, both January and October had 01/23.
 
Silvguard said:
Since the early Jane scenes have a sample bottle with 4/30 date on it are you moving Moon Knight back into April or putting it between the Jane scenes and the rest of Love and Thunder?

Also, I don't know if anyone caught this but on the final Morbius end credit scene, he looks at his watch and it reads 2:54:53 on Sat 23rd. This happens in November 2024 and the next time is August 2025.
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As a general statement (I can go further into detail but I’d have to do all of my working out again)

Moon Knight S01 Happens in Late April to Early May (Episodes 4-6 takes place for the most part on the same day)

Thor LaT Happens in Early May (same day just hours apart from the finale of Moon Knight)
 
Thanks, from what you are saying it sounds like the Jane scenes overlap with episodes 1-3 somewhat and then 4-6 followed by Thor's Scenes?
 
jhed13 said:
We really took a vote on Moon knight's placement for nothing
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Respectfully, so what? We took a vote on the placement this timeline as a whole would respect when placing it into the document. We did not take a vote that said people everyone must place it in their in their own timelines. The reason this place exists is because a solid timeline doesn't exist. There will be fluctuations between each person's timelines, now more so than ever. The larger discussion on when it takes place "officially" to this timeline is what the vote ended, people are free to still place it wherever they want that they think it makes sense. As the MCU grows in such a fast manner plus the five year gap there will be more disagreements on when things happen. We voted, as long as people respect it they can disagree.

We took a vote because we need a spot to place it in the document, but the reasons for its complicated placement don't vanish. The moment we stop letting everyone voice their placements because we disagree is the moment we may as well go back to Reddit. Idc where someone places Moon Knight, 2024 or 2025, as long as they present good reasoning for it in a polite way.
 
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selfishmisery said:
I think the 2024 Moon placements is the best evidence I've seen for it being 2024.

2025 arguments basically amount to "Too much happen in one year."
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I agree but if the majority of people want it in 2025, like the vote said if IIRC, then that's where I'll place it when discussing it here. On my own timeline in my phone it stays 2024 till further notice.
 
selfishmisery said:
I think the 2024 Lunar alignments is the best evidence I've seen for it being 2024.

2025 arguments basically amount to "Too much happen in one year."
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I just personally feel like while the 2024 Lunar alignments could have originally meant something, Jeremy Slater’s comments on how the show was intentionally kept vague and talks on how there was a timeline they had but it could change is why I can’t blindly go off it. Especially when if you used the moon to line up other Marvel projects, it wouldn’t match. I’m of the belief that if there isn’t anything contradictory within the project, then the Disney + timeline can be trusted. And I see nothing that says Moon Knight has to be 2024 (given it’s a fictional world, the lunar calendar isn’t enough). From a narrative standpoint, I think it fits better in 2025 too since most of the 2024 projects either deal with the aftermath of the blip or still reference it as a recent event (Shang-Chi, TF&TWS, FFH, etc.). While 2025 projects like She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, and Wakanda Forever really show how the world’s returned more to normalcy. While I personally go with 2025, I completely get why others go with 2024 and believe either placement can work given how vague the show is (something Thor: L&T also runs into). So, at this point it really is up to the individual. And hopefully Marvel projects in the future are much more clear on when they’re happening.
 
Starvel said:
Respectfully, so what? We took a vote on the placement this timeline as a whole would respect when placing it into the document. We did not take a vote that said people everyone must place it in their in their own timelines. The reason this place exists is because a solid timeline doesn't exist. There will be fluctuations between each person's timelines, now more so than ever. The larger discussion on when it takes place "officially" to this timeline is what the vote ended, people are free to still place it wherever they want that they think it makes sense. As the MCU grows in such a fast manner plus the five year gap there will be more disagreements on when things happen. We voted, as long as people respect it they can disagree.

We took a vote because we need a spot to place it in the document, but the reasons for its complicated placement don't vanish. The moment we stop letting everyone voice their placements because we disagree is the moment we may as well go back to Reddit. Idc where someone places Moon Knight, 2024 or 2025, as long as they present good reasoning for it in a polite way.
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I didn't say everyone had to put it in their personal timelines. The vote was for it to be placed in THIS timeline. Which it is not. There was an overwhelming majority for 2024 and its still not on 2024 in this timeline.

We took a vote because the majority wanted it in 2024 and it wasn't changing and now after the vote, it still isn't changed.
 
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selfishmisery said:
I think the 2024 Lunar alignments is the best evidence I've seen for it being 2024.

2025 arguments basically amount to "Too much happen in one year."
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I'm 100% agreeing with you. And so did the majority other people. That's why I'm irritated because we took the vote and nothing happened. Nothing on this document changed to put Moon Knight in 2024 like we voted on
 
jhed13 said:
I'm 100% agreeing with you. And so did the majority other people. That's why I'm irritated because we took the vote and nothing happened. Nothing on this document changed to put Moon Knight in 2024 like we voted on
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Don't use the document then, don't get me wrong the work that's gone into it is absolutely incredible. But I disagree with a few points on it, I keep my own timeline on my phone and do my best to use this timelines placement for discussion when I can

That being said if 2024 did win the vote it should be changed but it's still debated enough that I don't think it matters at this point.
 
Starvel said:
Don't use the document then, don't get me wrong the work that's gone into it is absolutely incredible. But I disagree with a few points on it, I keep my own timeline on my phone and do my best to use this timelines placement for discussion when I can

That being said if 2024 did win the vote it should be changed but it's still debated enough that I don't think it matters at this point.
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So we should ignore votes for this document then? That's what I'm getting from what you're saying.
"We voted for a placement, can we please place it" and you come in with "who cares".
We've worked really hard to build this timeline and you're saying that we shouldn't respect a majority vote? What are we here for then?
 
jhed13 said:
So we should ignore votes for this document then? That's what I'm getting from what you're saying.
"We voted for a placement, can we please place it" and you come in with "who cares".
We've worked really hard to build this timeline and you're saying that we shouldn't respect a majority vote? What are we here for then?
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I don't think there should've been a vote, I thought it was redundant from the start. Who ever edits the document (I don't actually know who's in charge of it, like I said I'm mostly here for the discussion to find the best placements to make my own timeline) should place Moon Knight and whatever else wherever they thinks it's best placed. Like I said people should keep their own timelines on this and place things themselves. This place is absolutely incredible for discussion but it's shouldn't be the definitive timeline for everyone.

To answer your question "what are we here for then", we're here to discuss the timeline and figure out together what works best with a group of people with the same interest, even if that answer isn't the same for everyone. Perhaps saying "who cares" was a little harsh way of putting it and I'm sorry for that but I stand by what I meant, who cares what the document says. It's a great source to place the MCU, faaaaar better than anything Marvel has done, but if you think it's incorrect then keep your own timeline and keep discussing here
 
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Starvel said:
I don't think there should've been a vote, I thought it was redundant from the start. Who ever edits the document (I don't actually know who's in charge of it, like I said I'm mostly here for the discussion to find the best placements to make my own timeline) should place Moon Knight and whatever else wherever they thinks it's best placed. Like I said people should keep their own timelines on this and place things themselves. This place is absolutely incredible for discussion but it's shouldn't be the definitive timeline for everyone.

To answer your question "what are we here for then", we're here to discuss the timeline and figure out together what works best with a group of people with the same interest, even if that answer isn't the same for everyone. Perhaps saying "who cares" was a little harsh way of putting it and I'm sorry for that but I stand by what I meant, who cares what the document says. It's a great source to place the MCU, faaaaar better than anything Marvel has done, but if you think it's incorrect then keep your own timeline and keep discussing here
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Ok, I see where you're coming from. I felt like you were being dismissive but I understand why you feel that way. Although i don't agree, let me tell you why so you might understand why I'm so passionate about this timeline.

This timeline was started over 10 years ago by a user called DIrishB. DIrish was an EXCELLENT timeline keeper. And soon after he created it, it blew up and became bigger than DIrish. His policy for this timeline was always a majority vote. It was no longer his timeline but a timeline of the community of people passionate about chronology. DIrish was the most solid guy in this forum and was super well respected. And most of the legwork that has went into this timeline came from him.
Unfortunately he passed away about 5 years ago. And Lebnyx undertook the responsibility of continuing his timeline. So this isn't a timeline that belongs to Lebnyx, it belongs to us in memory of DIrishB. That's why I'm irritated. This isn't just a silly timeline to me that some of us nerds can debate on sometimes. This is a continuation of a piece of a legacy of somebody that I admire and look up to who isn't with us anymore.
I'm sure this seems like a weird thing for me to get worked up over, but this timeline is very important to me and a lot of other people who got to work on this with DIrish over the years.
 
jhed13 said:
Ok, I see where you're coming from. I felt like you were being dismissive but I understand why you feel that way. Although i don't agree, let me tell you why so you might understand why I'm so passionate about this timeline.

This timeline was started over 10 years ago by a user called DIrishB. DIrish was an EXCELLENT timeline keeper. And soon after he created it, it blew up and became bigger than DIrish. His policy for this timeline was always a majority vote. It was no longer his timeline but a timeline of the community of people passionate about chronology. DIrish was the most solid guy in this forum and was super well respected. And most of the legwork that has went into this timeline came from him.
Unfortunately he passed away about 5 years ago. And Lebnyx undertook the responsibility of continuing his timeline. So this isn't a timeline that belongs to Lebnyx, it belongs to us in memory of DIrishB. That's why I'm irritated. This isn't just a silly timeline to me that some of us nerds can debate on sometimes. This is a continuation of a piece of a legacy of somebody that I admire and look up to who isn't with us anymore.
I'm sure this seems like a weird thing for me to get worked up over, but this timeline is very important to me and a lot of other people who got to work on this with DIrish over the years.
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Alright you know what that's totally fair and you've convinced me. The creator of this incredible timeline decided votes should be used then they absolutely should. As a vote was taken, it should be changed, that's a very fair thing to be irritated by. Do you know who currently controls the editing of the document, is it still Lebnyx?
 
Update on my Moon Knight Placement
(April 24th - May 4th)
Thor: Love and Thunder
(April 30th - May 4th/5th)
 
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