Non-Arrowverse DC TV Show Timelines

[selfishmisery]

I'll add Naomi later.

In terms of Pennyworth/Gotham connections, a friend of mine I talk with a lot brought up the idea of the Lucius Fox we see in Pennyworth could be Lucius Fox Sr. as opposed to the Lucius Fox (Jr., the 2nd?) that would go onto work at Wayne Enterprises. Hence why Alfred doesn't recognize Lucius in Gotham, although it was his father he met in the 60s/70s.

 

[thecomicperson]

So, there's no connection between the Arrowverse and Naomi?

 

[Pro Bot]

Nope.

 

[selfishmisery]

Might make a Human Target timeline. The 2010 version btw, since there are onscreen dates.

 

[selfishmisery]

Might make a Human Target timeline. The 2010 version btw, since there are onscreen dates.

And anyone wanna assume Rick Springfield of the 1990s show aged to become Lee Majors (OG "Christopher Chance")?

 

[RoscoIsANinja]

Might make a Human Target timeline. The 2010 version btw, since there are onscreen dates.

I've already made one. I guess maybe I should post it on this forum.
Episodes are out of order for season 2

 

[selfishmisery]

I've already made one. I guess maybe I should post it on this forum.
Episodes are out of order for season 2

Interesting. Post!

Send it to me rather

 

[RoscoIsANinja]

Interesting. Post!

Send it to me rather

Will do! Just gotta clean it up a bit.

 

[RoscoIsANinja]

@selfishmisery It's not letting me PM you

 

[selfishmisery]

@selfishmisery It's not letting me PM you

One second. I'll check settings.

 

[selfishmisery]

Okay it won't let me. Apparently because of spam.

Post it here I guess. Copy and paste.

 

[RoscoIsANinja]

Just to be sure... I don't usually put timestamps, just the amount of days that pass in an episode. So I skimmed through the first episode just to better place what I already had.

Is this a good example of what you're looking for? (I've never made a timeline like this)

2009
July 21

Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:00:09 - 0:04:17)

August 18

Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:04:17 - 0:09:02)

August 19

Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:09:02- 0:40:12)

August 20

Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:40:12- 0:41:19)
Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:41:23- 0:41:32)

September 20
Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:41:19- 0:41:23)
Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:41:32- 0:42:30)

If so, I can bust out the rest of the episodes here in the next couple of days.

 

[selfishmisery]

Just to be sure... I don't usually put timestamps, just the amount of days that pass in an episode. So I skimmed through the first episode just to better place what I already had.

Is this a good example of what you're looking for? (I've never made a timeline like this)

2009
July 21

Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:00:09 - 0:04:17)

August 18

Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:04:17 - 0:09:02)

August 19

Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:09:02- 0:40:12)

August 20

Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:40:12- 0:41:19)
Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:41:23- 0:41:32)

September 20
Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:41:19- 0:41:23)
Human Target 1x01, "Pilot" (0:41:32- 0:42:30)

If so, I can bust out the rest of the episodes here in the next couple of days.

Were these onscreen dates given in the show?

 

[RoscoIsANinja]

Were these onscreen dates given in the show?

Yes, the newspaper the woman holding gives the August date so I just based the rest off that.
A lot of the episodes I guess based on little things. Like in season 2, Ames hadn't even been there long enough to receive her first pay check yet.

Episode 1 and episode 10 of the first season are the only episodes to give clear dates, but it's pretty easy to at least assume the month the rest of the episodes take place.

Season 2 has a lot more on-screen dates. That's how I was able to determine a couple episodes were aired out of order.

I watched the series twice to put together the timeline, now am wishing I would have included timestamps lol

 

[RoscoIsANinja]

Also, I DID watch the OG Human Target and nothing in that show to indicate a timeline, aside from kids being in school. So we know it's not summer.

 

[RoscoIsANinja]

Sorry for the delay. Should have this done by tonight or tomorrow.

 

[selfishmisery]

I'm starting to think if The Flash movie does merge more than one Earth

Spoiler: THE FLASH 2022 FILM SPOILERS

since I read some leak somewhere it involves his suit getting stolen, damaged, and due to its heavy usage of the Speed Force, the instability of it causes a Crisis throughout the multiverse (NOT just the DCEU Earth),

I'm curious if Titans and Doom Patrol might merge with the DCEU after The Flash film.
a.) The costume design, the fighting style of the Robins, the Wayne family crest and many other elements are very DCEU inspired. Almost like an alternate timeline.
b.) Titans' Bruce is older than Batfleck. Clearly about Keaton's age, since they made Iain Glenn look older than he already is; which makes me think he is meant to "stand in" for an eventual casting for an older Bruce Wayne.
c.) Barbara Gordon also may be a "stand in" for an eventual recast. The fact the show revealed later on that she was a nameless vigilante that was trained by her dad and the GCPD rather than Bruce AND never became Batgirl...well, it wouldn't amount to much if she was or wasn't crippled since that didn't mean much in Titans. By 2022 in the DCEU, she's clearly not paralyzed so I could see that little tidbit from Earth-9 being erased post-Flashpoint.
d.) Doom Patrol is a different Earth based on the different Chiefs and Negative Mans, but it's obviously taken inspiration from Titans (which as I mentioned is in turn inspired by the DCEU somewhat.)
e.) Ray Fisher ain't coming back. They need a new Cyborg in the DCEU. Jovian Wade's version from Doom Patrol made vague references to him already being friends with The Flash, as also seen in the DCEU version, and had a line stating he was a 'consultant' for the Justice League but not a member.
f.) If we're getting a new Superman origin like The Flash rumors insinuate, Clark would probably become Superman at a younger age since by 2003 or 2004 he is known by kid Victor Stone (Cyborg) and in a 2009 flashback in Titans has his logo on a shirt. EVEN THEN, it is said in Titans s2 that in 2013 Lex attempted to create a Superman clone which eventually evolved into the development of Superboy. WHY in 2013 did Lex express interest of all years? And why are we getting Michael Shannon and Faora back in The Flash film? A more experienced Superman where solving Zod's invasion becomes less of a hassle due to having a longer career is my best guess.
g.) The Justice League were even around 15 years longer in both shows; with only Wonder Woman and Batman being the confirmed members in the early-to-mid 2000s; working around the whole Flash and Aquaman membership a decade later.
finally, h.) They supposedly CUT scenes from Titans that involved Superman and Iain Glenn in a Batman suit that hasn't been released to the public. Why is that? Because it's all a missing puzzle piece that doesn't exactly fit yet, but will eventually with some changes.

TL;DR elements in Titans and DP are meant to stand-in or work around certain things DC doesn't want to change for the DCEU post-Flashpoint/merging but also creates new ideas that they plan on incorporating to erase certain elements from earlier films.

 

[Pro Bot]

Spoiler: The Flash Spoilery Theory

I think it might go like this:
1918
Alternate version of events from Wonder Woman.

1959
Penguin is born.

1972
Bruce Wayne's parents are killed by Jack Napier, the first Joker.

1974
Wizard Shazam fails to find Thaddeus Sivana worthy

1980s
Krypton explodes. Kal-El and Kara Zor-El are set to Earth.

1984
Alternate version of events from Wonder Woman 1984.

1985
Atlanna washes up on Thomas Curry's lighthouse. They fall in love and have a child together named Arthur.

1989
Alternate version of events from Batman (1989).

1992
Alternate version of events from Batman Returns.

1993
Alternate version of events from Batman '89.

1995
Atlanna is taken by Atlantean forces, who sacrifice her to the trench, where she barely survives.

1990s
There is now the second Joker, suffering a similar fate to his inspiration, Jack Napier.

2005
Helena Bertinelli is a sole survivor of a massacre of the Bertinelli family. She is spared and trained so that she can take vengeance.

2000s
Batgirl movie flashback with Keaton and JK Simmons.

2008
Billy Batson is abandoned by his mother.

2009
Joker 2 is taken to Arkham Asylum by Batman. He seduces Harleen Quinzel a she is transformed into Harley Quinn.

2010s
Dick Grayson debuts as Robin.

2013
Kara Zor-El debuts as Supergirl.

2017
Alternate versions of events from Aquaman.

2018
Alternate versions of events from Shazam!.

2020
Alternate versions of events from Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn).

2021
Alternate version of events from The Suicide Squad.

2022
Alternate version of events from Peacemaker S1.
Alternate version of events from Black Adam.
Events from The Flash.
Events from Blue Beatle.
Events from Batgirl.
Events from Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom.

2023
Events from Shazam!: Fury of the Gods.
Events from Wonder Woman 3.


Imagine it merged Earth-1, Earth-9, Earth-21, Earth-89 and maybe even Earth-96, though.

 

[thecomicperson]

Spoiler: The Flash Spoilery Theory

I think it might go like this:
1918
Alternate version of events from Wonder Woman.

1959
Penguin is born.

1972
Bruce Wayne's parents are killed by Jack Napier, the first Joker.

1974
Wizard Shazam fails to find Thaddeus Sivana worthy

1980s
Krypton explodes. Kal-El and Kara Zor-El are set to Earth.

1984
Alternate version of events from Wonder Woman 1984.

1985
Atlanna washes up on Thomas Curry's lighthouse. They fall in love and have a child together named Arthur.

1989
Alternate version of events from Batman (1989).

1992
Alternate version of events from Batman Returns.

1993
Alternate version of events from Batman '89.

1995
Atlanna is taken by Atlantean forces, who sacrifice her to the trench, where she barely survives.

1990s
There is now the second Joker, suffering a similar fate to his inspiration, Jack Napier.

2005
Helena Bertinelli is a sole survivor of a massacre of the Bertinelli family. She is spared and trained so that she can take vengeance.

2000s
Batgirl movie flashback with Keaton and JK Simmons.

2008
Billy Batson is abandoned by his mother.

2009
Joker 2 is taken to Arkham Asylum by Batman. He seduces Harleen Quinzel a she is transformed into Harley Quinn.

2010s
Dick Grayson debuts as Robin.

2013
Kara Zor-El debuts as Supergirl.

2017
Alternate versions of events from Aquaman.

2018
Alternate versions of events from Shazam!.

2020
Alternate versions of events from Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn).

2021
Alternate version of events from The Suicide Squad.

2022
Alternate version of events from Peacemaker S1.
Alternate version of events from Black Adam.
Events from The Flash.
Events from Blue Beatle.
Events from Batgirl.
Events from Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom.

2023
Events from Shazam!: Fury of the Gods.
Events from Wonder Woman 3.


Imagine it merged Earth-1, Earth-9, Earth-21, Earth-89 and maybe even Earth-96, though.

Well, that would be mucho pedir, but like someone here at Mexico says, we dont know yet

 

[selfishmisery]

Just gonna leave this here. For future reference. lol