Non-Arrowverse DC TV Show Timelines

selfishmisery

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Having thought about it, Lucifer having avatars makes sense. When one is literally a rival to God himself in terms of power, of course they can create manifestations of themselves. I mean, Darkseid does it in the comics.

The Sandman as Earth-19 is my new head-canon, lol. Here's hoping that the Abramsverse ties into the already established Swamp Thing so that black John Constantine can be Johanna's cousin or something. :p
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I watch BobaTalks on YouTube occasionally. The man is fairly well versed in honest criticism and I trust him greatly with information, but he mentioned in his latest review that he heard through the grapevine that thanks to the Discovery merger that Swamp Thing (2019) might be getting a 'soft reboot' revival with the ORIGINAL cast back, AND will get folded into JJ Abrams' JL Dark universe plans.

And no he's not one of those rumor hounds nor does he talk out of his ass.
Give a listen (around 22:18):
 

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Wonder if the Madame X series would use this actress, then.
 

selfishmisery

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In Sandman they referenced
a serial killer named "The BogeyMan" having died in a Louisiana swamp.

Obvious reference to Swamp Thing, but the Corinthian says it was "a few years ago". So maybe he was working for the old business dude antagonist in that show and was killed by him at some point.
 

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"This issue's antagonist is referenced a few years later in Sandman #14."

Definitely a reference to Swamp Thing, likely a shared element from the comic version.
 

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So, to sum it up:

1. John Constantine helped split Mazikeen into two halves, one for Hell and one for the Earthly plane. Lucifer owed him for that in Crisis on Infinite Earths.

2. Samael has multiple physical manifestations of themself, one who retired to Earth-666 and another, more malicious Lucifer who rules Hell in whatever domain we see in The Sandman.

Rulers of Hell
Samael/Lucifer Morningstar (Tom Ellis/Gwendoline Christie)

Triumvirate of Hell
Lucifer Rofocale/Satan (Peter Stormare/Beau Daniels)
Belial (Mel Tuck)
Beelzebub (Bill Croft)

Lucifer claims that the names of the Triumvirate are his own. Either they're manifestations of Lucifer or ruling demons always take on names that Morningstar has gone by.
 
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selfishmisery

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Sandman timeline up to date.

EDIT: The final timestamp in the "Calliope" segment is "August 2022"...except the newspaper she looks at mentions Unity Kincaid.
Sooo another time stamp error? Should that be 2021 instead?
 

selfishmisery

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Another clue for Sandman being set free in 1980, but with the Dreaming being outside of time thus he arrives there in present day:

The female guard of the two guarding his glass prison is reading Firestarter by Stephen King - released in September 1980.
 

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Oops. It's Arkhamverse Deadshot again?
 

selfishmisery

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Oops. It's Arkhamverse Deadshot again?
I guess if Coleman is cast as Bruno, then maybe that specific comic story happens on Earth-Prime.
 

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Imagine they pretend they've always been the same universe, and we just have to assume Earth-9 and Earth-21 are duplicate worlds, lol.
 

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I do wonder what sort of multiverse event constitutes a crossover between these different universes, though.
 

selfishmisery

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The newspaper prop from Sandman episode 1. Noticed the date under "The Sun" reads Tuesday, May 25, 2021.
I guess 111-year old Burgess son had 20 years taken off thanks to the Ruby; so he's physically 91?
I'll adjust.
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