Non-Arrowverse DC TV Show Timelines

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TalonCard

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If we get to the point where half of DC live-action makes it into the crossover, I can't add it all to the DC/CW timeline. It's too much and too tangential, especially if something like BL or the 90s The Flash show are fairly standalone...

We'll have to vote on it, and I mean no disrespect, but I think it should mainly stay Earth-1 and Earth-38; unless there's any event of them traveling to Earth-2 or another Earth in the current shows.
My personal preference would be to just keep it in the same list--it sounds like a lot to add, and of course it is. But in the grand scheme of things, it's really not that much considering the sheer number of episodes the main DC/CW shows drop every year. In five more years, the new DC/CW output alone will dwarf whatever shows are tied in via the Crisis Crossover. It's going to be cumbersome and complicated whichever route it ends up going. And while some of the older shows might seem tangential now, it seems likely that there will be more crossovers with old shows in the future.

That said, I think there might be a workable compromise: limit the detailed DC/CW timeline to the shows currently on the CW, but remove the "Simplified Viewing/Reading Order" from the first post. Start a new topic for "DC Live Action Multiverse Simplified Viewing/Reading Order", and have that be the new all-inclusive home for everything tied in via Crisis and any future crossovers.

Since it would be just a list of episodes/movies in the approximate year they are set, with no complicated flashback/timetravel entries, it would be a shorter, more manageable list that would represent the full multiverse and allow those of us watching the shows in order a handy resource.

TC
 

Pro Bot

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My personal preference would be to just keep it in the same list--it sounds like a lot to add, and of course it is. But in the grand scheme of things, it's really not that much considering the sheer number of episodes the main DC/CW shows drop every year. In five more years, the new DC/CW output alone will dwarf whatever shows are tied in via the Crisis Crossover. It's going to be cumbersome and complicated whichever route it ends up going. And while some of the older shows might seem tangential now, it seems likely that there will be more crossovers with old shows in the future.

That said, I think there might be a workable compromise: limit the detailed DC/CW timeline to the shows currently on the CW, but remove the "Simplified Viewing/Reading Order" from the first post. Start a new topic for "DC Live Action Multiverse Simplified Viewing/Reading Order", and have that be the new all-inclusive home for everything tied in via Crisis and any future crossovers.

Since it would be just a list of episodes/movies in the approximate year they are set, with no complicated flashback/timetravel entries, it would be a shorter, more manageable list that would represent the full multiverse and allow those of us watching the shows in order a handy resource.

TC
I agree.

I'd also like to add the Batman '66 comics (at least the crossovers) seem to all be set in 1966, which, according to references (Santa Claus screwing the timeline harder than Barry/some have to take place after the series) and episode guides (which you could try and force out of order, I guess...), is simply impossible. This means no Wonder Woman '77 (which also has to take place in 1977 if we count the comics), unless there is a crossover in Crisis or the future.

Oh, The Green Hornet is also 100% non-canon dispite the crossover, since Batman is a show in The Green Hornet and uses the actual Batcave set, meaning it's not just a tv show based on the real heroes. It also had Batman and Robin climbing a wall, but that one wouldn't be as definitive proof as one would think.
 
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selfishmisery

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Months have clearly passed between Pennyworth episodes 3 and 4 because

Lord Harwood has grown a full beard. It takes two to six months for a full beard to grow out. Although since Alfred says he still plans on marrying Esme after giving her the ring...two months maximum. Not that much time would need to have passed.
 
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selfishmisery

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I missed this in Pennyworth episode 4, but it is 100% in 1968 - they mentioned Cliff Richard leaving The Shadows on the news in one scene; which occurred around October 1968.

Objectively, that would put Gotham around 1989 to 1994 for sure.

EDIT: The ending of Episode 2 is on August 26 because they mention a certain character's execution being on a bank holiday. The closest one in 1968 is, of course, August 26.
 

Pro Bot

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Maybe they can write it into Crisis?
I don't see that happening, with the show being set approximately 200 years ago and the Arrow-Multiverse working as if all universes happen at the same time (eg. 1990 Flash is him 28 years later, unlike Spider-Man 2099).
 
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TalonCard

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Didn't the original crisis cameo some Old West and WWII characters? Plus there's the potential for time travel. But it sounds like it's being shipped around to other networks, so it's likely not over yet.
 

selfishmisery

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I can't find the interview now, but the showrunners said that Pennyworth takes place in the early 60s, specifically 1963.

So I'm guessing there's timeline changes in comparison to our world. (Like Germany having control over the Netherlands as stated in Ep 4.)
 

Pro Bot

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How is Boo Normal supposed to fit in S3? Chloe's implies that
she knows who Lucifer is
. Instead, they should have stated non-canon or recommended to force it in season 4 somewhere.
 
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selfishmisery

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Between episodes 4 and 5 or 5 and 6 of Season 4?

EDIT: I took the showrunners word on it and put it between 3x15 and 3x16.

Chloe definitely didn't specify that
she knew who Lucifer was,
so it the implication that she believed in strange occurrences could easily be retconned as something else entirely.
 
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Pro Bot

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Between episodes 4 and 5 or 5 and 6?
Between 3 and 4?

For now, the official word is between 3x15 - 3x16, which is just a little odd. I think they wanted to maintain that it was standalone but not part of Season 4 so somehow came to the conclusion it fits there.

I do agree with them on Once Upon a Time, though.

‘Once Upon a Time’ fits nicely exactly where it is, as almost like a calm before the storm, a nice little digression,” says co-showrunner Joe Henderson. As for “Boo Normal,” which hinted at Chloe post-devil face reveal, “That fits really well in Season 3, ignoring the fact that Chloe [says what she says], because Chloe hints about knowing more, but doesn’t really say it.
 
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Pro Bot

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Between episodes 4 and 5 or 5 and 6 of Season 4?

EDIT: I took the showrunners word on it and put it between 3x15 and 3x16.

Chloe definitely didn't specify that
she knew who Lucifer was,
so it the implication that she believed in strange occurrences could easily be retconned as something else entirely.
She implied it, but sure, it could be retconned. We're not people who are involved on the show so that's what the official word is.

That being said, it's very weird for a person to accept ghosts because of a "strange" occurrence. Wonder what happened to Decker for her to respond with her saying she has "seen a lot crazier things. Like, a lot."
 
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