Ultimate Marvel Timeline / Chronology (v 5.0)

cmdrjanjalani

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Are you sure Spider-Men takes place after the last Ultimates arc? Nick Fury and the Ultimates are still in their status quo sans Captain America. SHIELD is most likely still under Flumm's control as Fury is MIA after the last arc and they captured Black Widow, Hawkeye and Falcon. This is definitely before all the crazy stuff happened in the U.S. I think USM takes place earlier than the latter half of Ultimates and UXM.
 

cmdrjanjalani

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Like i said, i would place Spider-Men straight after the Prowler arc in Ultimate Spider-Man.
Definitely takes place after the last USM arc based on Miles' reaction to seeing the Prowler illusion. What's unsure is when both series takes place in the overall chronological sequence with comparison to UXM and Ultimates which depicts the entire world pretty much in the toilet. Another thing to note, Gwen and May were still rather comfortable in Paris when they found out about Miles. My understanding is that the Children wiped out Western Europe and took over, and this includes France.
 
I don't suppose anyone has come up with anything close to similar to this for the normal marvel universe as well? This is exactly the type of thing I've been looking for to path my reading through the thousands of comics there are for the normal universe.
 

Mattimeo84

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there are things like the complete marvel chronology, but they are more of a competitionist list of all marvel comics. your best bet would be lists for the major marvel events. there are such lists in and around the interwebs, just search your favorite engine with your favorite event.

as for a sweeping list, there are so many issues (pun intended) with combining every issue into one list. this is the fifth major installment of this chronology with over 5000 combined comments (estimated). that is for just one line of comics and there are pages fighting over the placement of a single panel. imagine the stress of combining everything.
 
Well I'm not looking for say a list of every little thing that happens in each comic line, nor am I just looking for the crossover events, but I am looking for major events in each comic line plus crossover events (already have a list for those). Major events like the venom arc is in spider-man (major but not on the crossover list as there is no crossover).
 

DIrishB

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cmdrjanjalani said:
Are you sure Spider-Men takes place after the last Ultimates arc? Nick Fury and the Ultimates are still in their status quo sans Captain America. SHIELD is most likely still under Flumm's control as Fury is MIA after the last arc and they captured Black Widow, Hawkeye and Falcon. This is definitely before all the crazy stuff happened in the U.S. I think USM takes place earlier than the latter half of Ultimates and UXM.

You're probably right about that. I'll have to go back and double check, I can't remember off the top if my head. I'll adjust that.
 

DIrishB

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Fixed my mistake and placed Spider-Man immediately after USM (Vol. 2) #12 so it occurs before the "Two Cities, Two Worlds" arc in The Ultimates. Thanks for the heads up guys!
 
Seems that Ultimate Power should end up coming before Xavier gets kidnapped by Cable and before Spider-man and MJ get back together. Why is it after all that stuff?
 
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cmdrjanjalani

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Seems that Ultimate Power should end up coming before Xavier gets kidnapped by Cable and before Spider-man and MJ get back together. Why is it after all that stuff?

The most significant part of that horrible series is that Fury is trapped in the Squadron Supreme universe paving way to Carol Danvers taking over his role. While Kitty and Spidey seems to be a couple here, it is not that explicitly shown that they are.
 
Well the X-men still being a team is more the problem I had with the placement. If not the placement of Ultimate power than maybe the placement of Ultimate X-men "Cable".
 
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DIrishB

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Ultimate Power caused me to give up on the timeline for awhile. It's a crapstorm of continuity errors.

The reason I placed it where I did is because Fury appears in Ult X-Men before that point (can't remember exactly), so placing it after wouldn't make sense since UP ends with him trapped in the Squadron Supreme/Supreme Power universe.

Of course, there's also the issue of Peter and Kitty's relationship, but there's really no way to fit it perfect.

It's been several years since I read those respective arcs so I'm a bit fuzzy on the logic, but I do remember there was no way to make it fit perfectly (or even less than perfectly). I tried a dozen different placements and none would work... That's the best placement I could come up with.

As for the X-Men being or not being a team, I just assume Kitty called them for help, and still a team or not they'd show up to help their collective "kid sister" no matter the inner dynamics of the team (or lack thereof).

EDIT: Just checked, Fury appears in the Aftermath arc, the issue immediately following the Cable arc in UXM. So this means it must occur before UP. I don't think Xavier appears in Ultimate Power so that seemed the best order.
 
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Captain Canuck

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It fits perfectly with usm if you place it after Peter and MJ get back together but before kitty finds out. I assumed Peter was trying to figure out how to tell kitty when they got distracted by the attack on the Baxter building.


I actually joined this site 4 years ago to tell DiB that. Haha
 

DIrishB

The Timeline Guy
Captain Canuck said:
It fits perfectly with usm if you place it after Peter and MJ get back together but before kitty finds out. I assumed Peter was trying to figure out how to tell kitty when they got distracted by the attack on the Baxter building.

I actually joined this site 4 years ago to tell DiB that. Haha

Yeah, and that's how it's laid out and the reason for the page break in the Clone Saga epilogue issue, since Nick Fury appears in that, as well as the X-Men and Xavier (pre-Cable arc and pre-Ultimate Power), and in the final pages of that issue Kitty spots Peter and MJ together and realizes Pete has gone back to MJ.

Therefore, the most logical order is as it's listed on the timeline, thanks to Cap Canuck for suggesting that! Seriously, Ultimate Power was like a dose of schizophrenia in terms of chronology.
 
Should Ultimate Iron Man and Ultimate Iron Man II really be in gray? They go over that origin of Tony Stark in the March on Ultimatum Saga as if it were part of the normal universe. Also several times his distributed neural mass is referenced like in Ultimate Human lending further credence to it being canon to the Ultimate universe itself.

Also why list the new Spider-Man as Vol2 when it has a proper title of its own "Ultimate Comics: All-New Spider-Man"?
 
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cmdrjanjalani

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Should Ultimate Iron Man and Ultimate Iron Man II really be in gray? They go over that origin of Tony Stark in the March on Ultimatum Saga as if it were part of the normal universe. Also several times his distributed neural mass is referenced like in Ultimate Human lending further credence to it being canon to the Ultimate universe itself.

Also why list the new Spider-Man as Vol2 when it has a proper title of its own "Ultimate Comics: All-New Spider-Man"?

It's already confirmed in Ultimates vs. Avengers that all the events of UIM are a TV show that has a very liberal take on Tony Stark's life hence the grey. It's obviously a retcon, but what can you do? Anyway all of the references to it are very vague.

Also looks like Spider-Men will take place after Divided We Fall (assumingly United We Stand as well). USM issue 13 picks up right after issue 12, so we can safely say that the Ultimates will be intact and Fury will be leading SHIELD again by the end of that event, or otherwise the continuity will make zero sense. Based also on this, the last arc of USM (basically the part that concentrates on Prowler and Scorpion) was running in parallel with Ultimates apparently.
 

JBeard

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Also looks like Spider-Men will take place after Divided We Fall (assumingly United We Stand as well). USM issue 13 picks up right after issue 12, so we can safely say that the Ultimates will be intact and Fury will be leading SHIELD again by the end of that event, or otherwise the continuity will make zero sense. Based also on this, the last arc of USM (basically the part that concentrates on Prowler and Scorpion) was running in parallel with Ultimates apparently.

There's nothing wrong with the continuity. I see what you mean because of the whole Spider-Man is a murderer thing, but that is less of s screw up in terms of continuity then the whole Fury still being in charge situation.
 

cmdrjanjalani

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There's nothing wrong with the continuity. I see what you mean because of the whole Spider-Man is a murderer thing, but that is less of s screw up in terms of continuity then the whole Fury still being in charge situation.

Fury could easily be back in charge after that arc, which is my point. I doubt Flumm will stay as Director for long. It's clear that Spider-Men takes place after Divided We Fall / United We Stand since it refers Prowler's death. There is no significant break that will allow Spider-Men to take place between Prowler's death and Divided We Stand not to mention Fury's presence.
 
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