Whats the worst era for comics?

[captainamerica1523]

I say the 80's

 

[Friday]

1992 - 1996

It gave us The Death of Superman, Knightfall, Emerald Twilight, The Clone Saga, The Age of Apocalypse, massive speculation, market crashes...

 

[Ice]

1992 - 1996

It gave us The Death of Superman, Knightfall, Emerald Twilight, The Clone Saga, The Age of Apocalypse, massive speculation, market crashes...

WHOA! HOLD YOUR HORSES!


Age of Apocalypse is one of the good stories from the 90s! YOU'RE SO WRONG!!!

 

[E]

1992 - 1996

It gave us The Death of Superman, Knightfall, Emerald Twilight, The Clone Saga, The Age of Apocalypse, massive speculation, market crashes...

This is correct. I think it even extends to around 1998.

I loved Death of Superman and the Clone Saga for what they tried to do, but there was so much garbage being published that unless you lived through it it's hard to fathom.

 

[captainamerica1523]

Knightfall was gr8

 

[Ultimate Houde]

I say the mid to late 90's.

FOIL COVERS.

 

[Ice]

I say the mid to late 90's.

FOIL COVERS.

Funny you say that. Marvel is releasing a foil cover for Age of Ultron!

 

[E]

Knightfall was gr8

Knightfall as a story was a lot better than most of the stories going on at the time.

Unfortunately it was way too bloated and longer than it needed to be.

 

[Zombipanda]

I say the 80's

You're right. All the 80's brought us is Moore's seminal works, the good works of Frank Miller (including the reinvention of Batman and Daredevil), the birth of Vertigo including some of Morrison's best material, numerous defining X-Men stories, The Man of Steel reboot.....

The late 40's is the worst era.

 

[Friday]

You're right. All the 80's brought us is Moore's seminal works, the good works of Frank Miller (including the reinvention of Batman and Daredevil), the birth of Vertigo including some of Morrison's best material, numerous defining X-Men stories, The Man of Steel reboot.....

The late 40's is the worst era.

I know absolutely nothing about comics from then. Except that Captain America punched Hitler.

Two Hitler posts in one day. Do I get a prize?

 

[ProjectX2]

I think the worst era has yet to come: the 2020s, the Glimmerdrome.

 

[captainamerica1523]

I think the worst era has yet to come: the 2020s, the Glimmerdrome.

you can't say that it was the worst if it hasn't happened yet.

 

[ProjectX2]

you can't say that it was the worst if it hasn't happened yet.

I'm from the future.

 

[Captain Canuck]

Knightfall as a story was a lot better than most of the stories going on at the time.

Unfortunately it was way too bloated and longer than it needed to be.

Can't that be said of most of the major stories from the 90s?

Cool idea, but way too bloated and longer than it needed to be.

 

[E]

Can't that be said of most of the major stories from the 90s?

Probably, but that doesn't make it any less so.

I didn't think Return of Superman was overly bloated. It was long, yes, but it seemed to have a definite direction and moved toward it without getting sidetracked (unlike Clone Saga).

"Long" isn't a criticism as long as it does just that. Brubaker's Captain America and Hickman's Fantastic Four were very long but I didn't want them to end.

 

[Captain Canuck]

I agree. I guess "overly long" is a relative term. There isn't a set number of issues that any one story should be, it's only overly long if the idea can't support the story any more.

 

[E]

I agree. I guess "overly long" is a relative term. There isn't a set number of issues that any one story should be, it's only overly long if the idea can't support the story any more.

That's Knightfall to me.

The Clone Saga didn't get to that point, but not because it was structured very well. They kept adding and adding and adding things until it was just too huge.

 

[Captain Canuck]

The clone saga and Knightfall were different though. It was clear right from the start of Knightfall (or pretty soon, anyway) that Jean Paul Valley wouldn't be Batman forever. He started going crazy and you had a problem that needed resolved. It was a story with a beginning, a middle, and an end. but it dragged on too long.

The Clone Saga proper (by which I mean everything leading up to when Ben is revealed to be the original Peter Parker), on the other hand, wasn't too long - it was just some of the worst writing i have ever read in comics and it had a crappy ending.

After that it became something different. It wasn't so much about clones anymore and it was really set up like Ben was the original and that he was going to be Spidey from that point on. And that part wasn't too bad, except everyone hated the idea that they had been reading about the clone for the past 20 years and no one wanted Ben to be the original.

So after a while they tried to fix it - and that's when it got confusing (at least in my mind). They brought in Gaunt and revealed he was Dr Stromm and they made the Scriers a cult of Goblin-worshipers and revealed that Norman wasn't dead and had been the evil mastermind behind the whole thing and had been pulling Warren's strings to mess with Peter (who was in fact the real Peter, not Ben - which was all anyone cared about)

Maybe Marvel always had that ending planned. But from a reader's point of view it seemed like the story ended and we had a new status quo until they realized no one wanted it and started back peddling. And again, it was clear that DC had some sort of resolution to Knightfall in mind from very early on.

 

[Friday]

Maybe Marvel always had that ending planned. But from a reader's point of view it seemed like the story ended and we had a new status quo until they realized no one wanted it and started back peddling. And again, it was clear that DC had some sort of resolution to Knightfall in mind from very early on.

http://lifeofreillyarchives.blogspo...-max=2009-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=36

Not even close. That is a link to The Life of Reily, a 35 part blog detailing the mess that the clone saga became. I highly recommend it.

 

[DIrishB]

you can't say that it was the worst if it hasn't happened yet.

*sigh*

Someone's sarcasm-detector is out of batteries.