I think that was Wyo's point...
I know you and Wyo have a rapport, and you argue about stuff all the time, but you can be a bit harsh DIB. Maybe argue your point without insulting him.
I didn't insult him. I pointed out his claim was BS, but that isn't insulting him, but his assertions. Specifically these:
It shows women as flawed and that a female run society would be just as successful as it was in Mad Max: Fury Road, not at all. I don't get why anyone would think half the world's population disappearing would have good results lol
The first is a false narrative completely. Y - The Last Man was a story of the surviving women pulling society OUT OF the post apocalyptic disaster of all the males dying. It's literally the exact inverse of Mad Max, where mankind played a direct role in destroying the world, as opposed to a virus or curse or whatever (can't remember if they ever established what caused the males to die off in Y) wiping out the males. One is an act of man, one is an act of God/nature/happenstance.
He's relying on a false equivalency, hence my point that the claims, based on such a false equivalency, are inherently BS
My aim is never to hurt anyone's feelings, and wyo knows me well enough to understand that. I can be harsh and a dick at times. Just who I am, but it's not motivated out of an attempt to hurt anyone's feelings, and just an impatience and low capacity for BS.
A quick Google search was all you needed. There are SEVERAL sites and people that claim the work to be sexist against women because everything goes to crap in the hands of women.
Lol, there's a lot of crap on Internet. Much of it is idiotic, as any claim Y - The Last Man being labeled as sexist or misogynist. Them claiming its due to "everything goes to crap in hands of women" is idiotic. It's literally the exact opposite of what the series portrays. Does it portray the characters as humans with foibles and faults? Yes, as it should. Does it show society crumbling due to being run by women? No. Not one bit. Overall, more building and reclamation of the society that was lost is portrayed than the down side. And that's my point. That entire argument is based on a completely false premise.
This says it best:
Maybe I don't have the right to comment on it but I considered it to be have feminist values. Unfortunately those values were muted and in the background.
The story showed all these societies and how they managed to get back on their feet and in some ways even thrive after some time without men. The women's correctional facility that became a peaceful and well ordered town would seem to be supporting strong independent women. We can also look at the re-establishment of the federal government and the rail system as indicative of a feminist society. Even the Amazons, while they were a caricature and an ludicrously extreme version, were a portrayal of feminism.
I think Dr. Mann and Agent 355 were strong and well developed characters. Agent 355 was significantly tougher than Yorick and saved his life on multiple occasions. Ultimately Dr. Mann saves the human race by developing clones.
I get why people might not see the story as overly feminist since the focus was the last man on Earth but given that the story was focused on the last man on Earth I think women were portrayed as running the gamut between strong and crazy and just strong.
And that's just it. It attempted to realistically portray the fact women, just like men, have different opinions, personalities, motivations, fears, strengths, weaknesses, etc.
And despite those human foibles and some taking wrong path, overall the women rebuilt the world and saved the human race... how anyone can twist that into a message of anti-feminism is ludicrous to me.
Likewise, some praise it for the work of feminism it actually is.
Right. And that's what it was intended as (partially). Some people will ***** about anything (those claiming its an attack on women).
Really, the biggest problem is that Ephraim Goodweather's son in The Strain enjoys it
Kid is an a-hole in the books, comics, and the show. Doesn't deserve Brian K. Vaughn's work in my opinion.
Lol, never seen The Strain so I'll take your word for it.
In Mad Max the Green Place, or whatever it was called, was barren and dry because the women didn't take care of it and squandered their resources. You're so ready to argue that you don't read what I write.
Or, it was barren and dry because of the world wide drought caused by nuclear war. I read what you wrote. Maybe I need to watch it again but I don't remember that ever being said in the film. Regardless, it's literally the exact opposite of what's occurring overall in Y - The Last Man.
I literally said it wasn't a good thing that all the men died.
The point was NO ONE CLAIMED half the men dying would have good results. I don't even know where you're pulling these assumptions from...
Hence my ENTIRE POINT about relying on BS arguments/comparisons.
You're literally comparing a post apocalyptic dystopian nightmare future in Mad Max with a series all about rebuilding society, and while it has its somber moments overall is buoyed by an undeniable sense of hope.
Ultimately it's a comparison that doesn't make much sense in that regard.
You see what I'm saying?