Universal Monsters - Viewing Order

[JudgeDreddpool]

John Capenter's The Thing was already connected due to an old UM magazine advertising the 2002 video game as an upcoming UM game. That'd be the original 1951 film.

I see. When exactly does the 1951 film take place, might I ask?

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

You know? Properly detailed timeline with timestamps and everything?

yes but how so do we need that now more then ever?

 

[Pro Bot]

I see. When exactly does the 1951 film take place, might I ask?

The 1950s, I believe.

 

[iceman109]

Some of this stuff in the timeline ties back to the Slasherverse…

 

[Pro Bot]

Some of this stuff in the timeline ties back to the Slasherverse…

How so?

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

yes but how so do we need that now more then ever?

because why not?

 

[Pro Bot]

Either way I'm not combining them.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

because why not?

I would love one, but that's also a lot of work. Which will be nice, but we gotta finish every UM film before starting that.

 

[iceman109]

How so?

There's easter eggs in Invisible Man and Upgrade to Saw in the form of graffiti, it's a weak link but I found it interesting

 

[Pro Bot]

I know about that, it's a very weak connection yeah.

 

[iceman109]

@Pro Bot did you add these yet?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/635824.Creature_From_The_Black_Lagoon
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/197334
https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/392639.The_Wolf_Man

 

[Pro Bot]

I'll get there! Thanks though.

 

[iceman109]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Monsters_Live_Rock_and_Roll_Show

 

[iceman109]

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WesternAnimation/MightyMonsterWheelies

 

[iceman109]

Apparently sentient car people exist in the Universal Monsters universe

 

[Pro Bot]

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/38234495-a-werewolf-remembers

When I attended Monster Bash in 2017, I was fortunate enough to catch a presentation by Frank J. Dello Stritto on Columbia Pictures' 1943 black-and-white horror film, The Return of the Vampre, starring Bela Lugosi. In the film, Lugosi played Dracula once again, but for legalities' sake his character is named, "Dr. Armand Tesla." Also, he commands a cuddly werewolf henchman named Andreas.

Mr. Dello Stritto did enough research into the movie's background to paint Return of the Vampire as a truer sequel to Tod Browning's Dracula (1931) than any of Universal's Dracula sequels. He even concluded by reasonably suggesting that it serves as the perfect middle to a trilogy comprised of Browining's film and Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948). From reading his book, A Werewolf Remembers: The Testament of Lawerence Stewart Talbot, I got an idea of how this trilogy would work. It's always bugged me how werewolf movies invest a lot of attention to the monster side of the character at the expense of knowing more about the human. Mr. Dello Stritto's book fully fleshes out Lawrence Talbot's character beyond his werewolf persona.

CANON. Armand Tesla is Dracula. CANON.

 

[Pro Bot]

When I started the book, I was worried it would take more than a few chapters to get to the more interesting parts of Talbot's "autobiography." The ones where he meets his Universal monster co-stars. He does meet them when the time comes, but in between he meets a variety of other characters. Larry goes on a hunting trip attended by a young Carl Denham (from King Kong), has a brief tryst with Irena Dubrovna (Jacques Tourneur's Cat People), and has meaningful dialogues with Father Lankester Merrin (The Exorcist) and Dr. Vijay Alzais (Wolf). These moments prove to be just as exciting as his run ins with Dracula and Frankenstein.

 

[Pro Bot]

So... Father Merrin Meets the Wolf Man wasn't on my bingo card. Guess The Exorcist is counted.

King Kong could either be the 2005 Universal film or the original 1933 version. I think the 1933 version is more likely the intention, but there's no problems either way.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

So... Father Merrin Meets the Wolf Man wasn't on my bingo card. Guess The Exorcist is counted.

King Kong could either be the 2005 Universal film or the original 1933 version. I think the 1933 version is more likely the intention, but there's no problems either way.

I would go 2005 because it's Universal and makes to me the most sense

 

[iceman109]

I wonder if 2026 Mummy will be a period piece or not

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

I would go 2005 because it's Universal and makes to me the most sense

Which would mean that Braindead also is in due to the Sumatran Rat Monkey easter egg in the 2005 movie.

Speaking of, which version of Jennifer's Body did you choose to put on the timeline @Pro Bot ? Theatrical or Unrated version?

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Which would mean that Braindead also is in due to the Sumatran Rat Monkey easter egg in the 2005 movie.

Speaking of, which version of Jennifer's Body did you choose to put on the timeline @Pro Bot ? Theatrical or Unrated version?

Yes exactly, and it does fit in the timeline very well

it's the unrated version. But we do not make it explicit yet. the same with The Wolfman, Werewolf: The Beast Among Us etc

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

3077 B.C. - The Scorpion King #1, "The Akkadian Prophecy, Part One"
3077 B.C. - The Scorpion King #2, "The Akkadian Prophecy, Part Two"

Any idea where I can read these comics? Can't seem to find any copies through the "Black Magic" sources I use.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Any idea where I can read these comics? Can't seem to find any copies through the "Black Magic" sources I use.

except for physical not sure. I could try and photograph my copies and make a PDF out of them but it won't be the highest of qualities

 

[iceman109]

Do you guys think the Mighty Monster Wheelies could be canon?

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

except for physical not sure. I could try and photograph my copies and make a PDF out of them but it won't be the highest of qualities

That's fine. As long as I'm able to read the comics so I'm not missing out...

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Do you guys think the Mighty Monster Wheelies could be canon?

Mighty Monsterwheelies can easily be canon, there is nothing that speaks against that, i do believe it is set on a distant island that not many know about. maybe the whole island is artificially made. But I do think this was the strangest thing Uni could come up with to approve as part of the universe.

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

That's fine. As long as I'm able to read the comics so I'm not missing out...

sure, can't promise to make it today but i should be able to do it soon-ish

 

[iceman109]

Mighty Monsterwheelies can easily be canon, there is nothing that speaks against that, i do believe it is set on a distant island that not many know about. maybe the whole island is artificially made. But I do think this was the strangest thing Uni could come up with to approve as part of the universe.

How do you think the Island came to be?

 

[Maciej Jankowski]

Which would mean that Braindead also is in due to the Sumatran Rat Monkey easter egg in the 2005 movie.

Speaking of, which version of Jennifer's Body did you choose to put on the timeline @Pro Bot ? Theatrical or Unrated version?

turns out that the original is what the author meant, he also wrote a novel about Carl Denham from the original film, his story. so King Kong 1933 and Son of Kong are part of the timeline, so no Braindead unfortunately