Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

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Says the guy wanting to ignore the only time frame Marvel Studios has actually given for the scene, but i'll digress.
I don't want to ignore it. The "leaves" I'm providing IS evidence. It may not be evidence you agree with, but it's evidence nonetheless. You are appealing to authority, which is a fallacy.
 
I don't want to ignore it. The "leaves" I'm providing IS evidence. It may not be evidence you agree with, but it's evidence nonetheless. You are appealing to authority, which is a fallacy.
It's evidence that I believe is trumped by the book. Let's just agree to disagree because you clearly aren't going to change your mind.
 
We are choosing to go with an official source book by the studio. You are choosing to go with a background detail. You are picking and choosing what is more correct as anyone else here.
And official sources can be wrong. I'm also watching the film myself, which is official too. In fact, I'd argue the films are more "official" than tie-in material. On-screen evidence nearly always trumps everything else. Your statement really just makes us equal if anything. We are both going with official sources, you are just choosing to ignore on-screen evidence in favor of what a tie-in book says.
 
It's evidence that I believe is trumped by the book. Let's just agree to disagree because you clearly aren't going to change your mind.
It's evidence that I believe trumps the book. Let's just agree to disagree because you clearly aren't going to change your mind.
 
And official sources can be wrong. I'm also watching the film myself, which is official too. In fact, I'd argue the films are more "official" than tie-in material. On-screen evidence nearly always trumps everything else. Your statement really just makes us equal if anything. We are both going with official sources, you are just choosing to ignore on-screen evidence in favor of what a tie-in book says.
Films can be wrong too. Especially with a universe as interconnected as this somethings the small details don't like up with the broader universe and background details, while yes are evidence, are not alone the deciding factor in a placement ever. Especially when another official source provides a direct statement on placement. If these were two background details yes I'd agree there's more debate as to which should be considered correct. In this instance the Timeline book provides the most recent and official placement for that specific scene. We are not ignoring the evidence, it's still evidence, there is just different more specific evidence that disagrees.
 
Films can be wrong too. Especially with a universe as interconnected as this somethings the small details don't like up with the broader universe and background details, while yes are evidence, are not alone the deciding factor in a placement ever. Especially when another official source provides a direct statement on placement. If these were two background details yes I'd agree there's more debate as to which should be considered correct. In this instance the Timeline book provides the most recent and official placement for that specific scene. We are not ignoring the evidence, it's still evidence, there is just different more specific evidence that disagrees.
So we agree that official sources can be wrong. Cool. I'm going with on-screen evidence on this one, you're not. Cool.
 
hey Mr. DrewVeenstra, are there any updates on the changes?
We're still working on it. The write-ups for the show are in the process of being updated, and the change still has to be formally proposed. I can guarantee that we'll be able to finish it before Born Again releases.

We're thinking the season spans something like November 2-December 15, 2014 by the way.
 
The film itself isn't an official source?
A few trees aren't concrete evidence. Does it make it a possibility that it's a different season? Kinda? But it's not a without a doubt thing. And when we have an official source saying something different then the already uncertain piece of evidence, yeah I'll take the official source 11 out of 10 times.
 
We're still working on it. The write-ups for the show are in the process of being updated, and the change still has to be formally proposed. I can guarantee that we'll be able to finish it before Born Again releases.

We're thinking the season spans something like November 2-December 15, 2014 by the way.
Having recently rewatched the season, those dates sound good.
 
We're still working on it. The write-ups for the show are in the process of being updated, and the change still has to be formally proposed. I can guarantee that we'll be able to finish it before Born Again releases.

We're thinking the season spans something like November 2-December 15, 2014 by the way.
btw the changes will be only about the present day events and the flashbacks about Daredevil's 1st nights on crime or all of season 1 will change? So like the flashbacks with fisk killing his father etc...
 
Is there a line or scene that confirms Black Panther and Black Widow are days after Civil War? Or a time jump at some point during the end of Civil War?
 
At the beginning of Black Panther T'Challa is watching the news saying it's been two weeks since the explosion that killed is father
 
Black Panther is summer, correct?

According to the MCU book?
Yes, which is why I go with Civil War being mid-June since the timeline book still says it's Spring, Black Widow picks up right after and since the timeline book considers it Spring/Summer it's mid-late June, and then Black Panther which the book places in Summer is late June-early July.
 
Yes, which is why I go with Civil War being mid-June since the timeline book still says it's Spring, Black Widow picks up right after and since the timeline book considers it Spring/Summer it's mid-late June, and then Black Panther which the book places in Summer is late June-early July.
That kinda screws with the YFNS timeline in relation to the MCU, tbh.
 
A few trees aren't concrete evidence. Does it make it a possibility that it's a different season? Kinda? But it's not a without a doubt thing. And when we have an official source saying something different then the already uncertain piece of evidence, yeah I'll take the official source 11 out of 10 times.
And you are of course free to do that. My point is it's NOT settled. There is debate to be had.
 
And you are of course free to do that. My point is it's NOT settled. There is debate to be had.
It is settled. As long as I'm editing the timeline official sources won't be ignored for a background detail that's flimsy and as Rman pointed out already been inconsistent in the past. If anyone truly has an issue with that they're more than welcome to take over the editing of this timeline
 

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