Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

[selfishmisery]

This is why until something of conflicting or extremely-complicated nature is clearly defined to the fullest extent, it's a theory until proven otherwise.

For the sake of simplicity, why overthink Frank's paranoid dreams as another universe. For the sake of Punisher and Punisher alone, I can ignore the Dream/Multiverse aspect in THAT regard. Regardless if it's true or not. We'll never know, we can only assume.

 

[Starvel]

For the sake of simplicity, why overthink Frank's paranoid dreams as another universe.

Because it's funny that an MCU film implies it actually happened in the multiverse and that the wiki takes are dreams to mean that to the point of making a page listing them all

https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Dreams#Dreams_Universes
Like this **** is hilarious

 

[selfishmisery]

I'm done with this conversation for real. If you wanna think it's some Frank Castle's life out there, be my guest.

I can disagree. Don't saying I'm "coping". That's 4chan bully tactics.

 

[SoyaCS]

I'm done with this conversation for real. If you wanna think it's some Frank Castle's life out there, be my guest.

I can disagree. Don't saying I'm "coping". That's 4chan bully tactics.

What's wrong with "coping"..? Is it inpolite?

Also, why is it weird that something defined as an INFINITE multiverse has some wacky universes. Isn't that expected...?

 

[selfishmisery]

What's wrong with "coping"..? Is it inpolite?

Also, why is it weird that something defined as an INFINITE multiverse has some wacky universes. Isn't that expected...?

Yes, very impolite. You are being dogmatic at that point, which yeah I've been guilty of. We all have.

But right here and right now, I'm not gonna be told I'm "coping". I'm disagreeing.

I know I said I was done but here we go again with me having to explain my point. I'm not mad, I'm just obligated to respond to aspersions.

 

[gerosuprastyles]

https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Uxoricide_Victim_Maria_Castle_Universehttps://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Frank_Castle/Castle-Lieberman_Thanksgiving_MassacreThis **** is hilarious, oh my God!

That also appears on the Marvel Wiki

 

[SoyaCS]

Yes, very impolite. You are being dogmatic at that point, which yeah I've been guilty of. We all have.

But right here and right now, I'm not gonna be told I'm "coping". I'm disagreeing.

Politely, I don't think using coping is impolite. But if it upsets you, I apologize.

Also, why didn't you reply to my second point...?

 

[selfishmisery]

Politely, I don't think using coping is impolite. But if it upsets you, I apologize.

Also, why didn't you reply to my second point...?

Because "infinite" is just another way of saying "innumerable variations".

Like how "infinity" is not a number, it's a level we put undefined numbers or equations at that can't be fully detailed.
In other words, it's as infinite as Marvel's lifespan and the amount of universes they tell in said lifespan. Which is unknown.

It's a concept that can't be defined by a single fact, but theories that hold truth based on limited understanding.

 

[SoyaCS]

Because "infinite" is just another way of saying "innumerable variations".

Like how "infinity" is not a number, it's a level we put undefined numbers or equations at that can't be fully detailed.
In other words, it's as infinite as Marvel's lifespan and the amount of universes they tell in said lifespan. Which is unknown.

It's a concept that can't be defined by a single fact, but theories that hold truth based on limited understanding.

Or it just means infinite. So never ending.

 

[selfishmisery]

Or it just means infinite. So never ending.

There's a top and bottom to this tree.
What is "never ending" will expand beyond what the human mind can handle.

 

[SoyaCS]

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There's a top and bottom to this tree.
What is "never ending" will expand beyond the human mind can handle.

That's not the entire Multiverse, that's just the sacred timeine and it's branches.

 

[selfishmisery]

Now we're reaching circular logic.

We'll agree to disagree.

 

[SoyaCS]

Now we're reaching circular logic.

We'll agree to disagree.

...?

 

[selfishmisery]

Last thing I'll say: the MCU Wiki plays by its own rules.

"You can't speculate" but they can assume Bulldozer is "Henry Camp"; despite that never being said onscreen. ("Just throw in a "conjecture" label.")
They can't post spoilers out in the open but they will post from unverified sources that they can just remove months later, despite being cited.
Helstrom is undefined canon based on showrunner word of mouth but god forbid you take word of mouth as anything but speculation for most other things.

It's a very biased wiki based on conformed or accepted ideas amongst the admins.

 

[SoyaCS]

Last thing I'll say: the MCU Wiki plays by its own rules.

"You can't speculate" but they can assume Bulldozer is "Henry Camp"; despite that never being said onscreen. ("Just throw in a "conjecture" label.")
They can't post spoilers but they will post from unverified sources that they can just remove months later, despite being cited.
Helstrom is undefined canon based on showrunner word of mouth but god forbid you take word of mouth as anything but speculation for most other things.

It's a very biased wiki based on conformed or accepted ideas amongst the admins.

That's cool and all but here's the thing









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[Starvel]

That's cool and all but here's the thing









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[Pro Bot]

Or it just means infinite. So never ending.

You can have an infinite number of identical universes thus never getting to every possibility. Between 1 and 2, there's an infinite amount of numbers without ever reaching 3. Infinite universes doesn't mean infinite possibilities. Not to mention, there's multiple multiverses. By that logic, the main DC Comics universe is in the Marvel Multiverse because there's infinite universes (as is The Big Bang Theory, Back to the Future, etc.), except that's not true. It exists in the separate place that also constitutes infinity.

 

[iceman109]

What's the Big Bang Theory connection?

 

[SoyaCS]

You can have an infinite number of identical universes thus never getting to every possibility. Between 1 and 2, there's an infinite amount of numbers without ever reaching 3. Infinite universes doesn't mean infinite possibilities. Not to mention, there's multiple multiverses. By that logic, the main DC Comics universe is in the Marvel Multiverse because there's infinite universes (as is The Big Bang Theory, Back to the Future, etc.), except that's not true. It exists in the separate place that also constitutes infinity.

 

[selfishmisery]

You can have an infinite number of identical universes thus never getting to every possibility. Between 1 and 2, there's an infinite amount of numbers without ever reaching 3. Infinite universes doesn't mean infinite possibilities. Not to mention, there's multiple multiverses. By that logic, the main DC Comics universe is in the Marvel Multiverse because there's infinite universes (as is The Big Bang Theory, Back to the Future, etc.), except that's not true. It exists in the separate place that also constitutes infinity.

"Never-ending" is also just a fallacy for something that has been shown in DC AND Marvel to have limits, a beginning and end, to its absolute size.

 

[SoyaCS]

"Never-ending" is also just a fallacy for something that has been shown in DC AND Marvel to have limits, a beginning and end, to its absolute size.

I know the DC Multiverse has been shown to have limits but when has the Marvel Multiverse...?

 

[selfishmisery]

I know the DC Multiverse has been shown to have limits but when has the Marvel Multiverse...?

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Far_Shore

 

[SoyaCS]

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Far_Shore

 

[myusernameyes]

That also appears on the Marvel Wiki

I'm about to go full on "nononono waitwaitwaitwait" myself

 

[Pro Bot]

What's the Big Bang Theory connection?

It's a TV series that doesn't occur in the Marvel multiverse despite it being virtually infinite. I'm saying by his logic, that in an infinite multiverse where every possibility happens, things that absolutely don't happen in the same multiverse do happen. I'm using it as an example of something that would, with DC as the main example, to prove that it's not accurate.

 

[gerosuprastyles]

Guys, would you like to see animated characters in Marvel Secret Wars? I think the only way to do it is if it looks REALLY well done and animated
opinions

 

[FruityWho50]

Guys, would you like to see animated characters in Marvel Secret Wars? I think the only way to do it is if it looks REALLY well done and animated
opinions

Almost definitely won't happen unfortunately for the likes of Moon Girl, 90s Spider-Man, 70s Fantastic Four, 60s Spider-Man, 90s Silver Surfer, Spectacular Spider-Man, Xmen the Animated Series characters.

Would really love it if at the very least we got the main cast from the Sony Spider-verse films to show up in Secret Wars but with how many characters in the MCU and its live action legacy universes I don't think we'll have enough Time.

Not sure about YFNSM and anyone from What If appearing but it would be nice. Actually having Uatu in Secret Wars would be awesome

 

[selfishmisery]

Guys, would you like to see animated characters in Marvel Secret Wars? I think the only way to do it is if it looks REALLY well done and animated
opinions

I want David Haller (played by Dan Stevens) as the MVP that hands Doom his ass in a turning point for the heroes in Secret Wars while they try to fix the timelines.

 

[Starvel]

Guys, would you like to see animated characters in Marvel Secret Wars? I think the only way to do it is if it looks REALLY well done and animated
opinions

Yeah I'd like that, I mean Spider-Man TAS was first to do Secret Wars lol and I got a nostalgic spot for it and X-Men. I think there's a very good chance of seeing Uatu in Secret Wars tho for sure.

 

[Pro Bot]

I want David Haller (played by Dan Stevens) as the MVP that hands Doom his ass in a turning point for the heroes in Secret Wars while they try to fix the timelines.

His love is vengeance... that's never free.