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Iggy Cygnus

Iggy Cygnus was a combat model Nexus-8 replicant. Iggy was stationed on Calantha, but after shooting his enemy and discovering he was also a replicant, Iggy realized that, to humans, this war was no more than "toy soldiers in a sandbox." He then deserted and escaped to Earth.[1] On Earth, he...
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Cygnus (model)

Cygnus was a model of combat synthetic primarily utilized in the 22nd century before its entire generation had been decommissioned and sold for scrap. One such model synthetic had been salvaged by Carter Burke on a waste-disposal planet named Arcadia 234. Aliens: What If...
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You don't think the Cygnus replicant in Aliens: What If...? might be this guy? They're both black, they're both designed for combat, they're both replicants... yeah, that's my evidence, but still lol. (The 22nd century part is not mentioned)

I honestly think it might be. The only problem is that there's 157 years between 2022 and 2179. Unless there's something in the atmosphere of Arcadia 234 or DNA of combat replicants that prevents decomposing, I'm not sure. In any case, I'm confident this was a reference. How many people do you know called Cygnus? And there's multiple Blade Runner references already... yeah, nah. It's got to be.
 
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Iggy Cygnus

Iggy Cygnus was a combat model Nexus-8 replicant. Iggy was stationed on Calantha, but after shooting his enemy and discovering he was also a replicant, Iggy realized that, to humans, this war was no more than "toy soldiers in a sandbox." He then deserted and escaped to Earth.[1] On Earth, he...
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Cygnus (model)

Cygnus was a model of combat synthetic primarily utilized in the 22nd century before its entire generation had been decommissioned and sold for scrap. One such model synthetic had been salvaged by Carter Burke on a waste-disposal planet named Arcadia 234. Aliens: What If...
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You don't think the Cygnus replicant in Aliens: What If...? might be this guy? They're both black, they're both designed for combat, they're both replicants... yeah, that's my evidence, but still lol. (The 22nd century part is not mentioned)

I honestly think it might be. The only problem is that there's 157 years between 2022 and 2179. Unless there's something in the atmosphere of Arcadia 234 or DNA of combat replicants that prevents decomposing, I'm not sure. In any case, I'm confident this was a reference. How many people do you know called Cygnus? And there's multiple Blade Runner references already... yeah, nah. It's got to be.
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I think it might be a shout out more then anything, considering how Cygnus refers to a line of synthetics instead of one person
 
There's no reference to any other Cygnus model existing, so technically, based on the dialogue, he's a combat model replicant. That's all we're given.

The wiki isn't technically wrong for doing that though. They're an AVP wiki, not a Blade Runner wiki. They should have the reading of him being an android.
 
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AJ: Which part of the book was most fun to write?

OW: Something that hadn't really occurred to me when I took the job on was that I'd have to essentially write it in character. The idea is that it's a handbook for marines in the field, so I had to write it as if I was some sort of corporate suit at Weyland-Yutani. That ended up being quite fun, because it's this weird line between writing a companion to the films and actually writing in-universe fiction.

And I tried to sneak a lot of jokes in, which might not be immediately apparent. I was afraid that the "voice", by its nature, would be boring, so I tried to play around with some references and in-jokes that fans would enjoy if they got them. There's a crack about "inexplicable lapses in safety protocols" in Prometheus that I know people have picked up on. And as I said, we weren't allowed to use the AvP movies or the comics or novels, so I had some fun making veiled references to those here and there; or references to discrepancies between different cuts of the different films, or between the films and the novelisations. Any time I mention something like "uncorroborated evidence" or dodgy intelligence, or stories that are probably apocryphal, I'm basically talking about something outside what's officially canonical. I even slipped a reference to Death Race in (Paul WS Anderson used Weyland as his evil company in that as well as in his Alien Vs Predator).
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Death Race was mentioned in an actual novel... welp, that's fucked. I don't want to add freaking Death Race.
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Alien: Augmented Reality Survival Manual

Alien: Augmented Reality Survival Manual is a 2017 fictional combat guide detailing methods and tactics for engaging the Xenomorph, written by Owen Williams and published by Harper Design. An augmented reality book, it consists of a traditional hardback volume along with a companion app that...
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I suppose it's possible that Weyland is the CEO and owner of the subsidiary company to Weyland Corp, "Weyland International".
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Someone's comment on it:
"The WY blurb also mentions that WY engages in prison-based racing circuits - I certainly wasn't expecting to see a reference to Paul WS Anderson's 'Death Race' in this book."

This just seems like fanfic crap, wtf? It's fun though. I guess it adds an unofficial canonicity point towards Death Race.
 
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Dutch Schaefer

Major Dutch Schaefer was a human cyborg officer in the United States Colonial Marine Corps. He was involved in combating a Xenomorph infestation in San Drad, California. A cyborg created to fight extra-terrestrials. He lost his arm in the 2nd Alien War and has since had it replaced with a...
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Since Dutch is now immortal per Hunting Ground tapes (or at least, extremely long-lived), it's possible this is the same character from the original Predator film, apparently enhanced by CDS cybernetics... yes, Arnold's character is a cyborg developed by CDS (Cyberdyne Systems)... moving on.
 
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Dutch Schaefer

Major Dutch Schaefer was a human cyborg officer in the United States Colonial Marine Corps. He was involved in combating a Xenomorph infestation in San Drad, California. A cyborg created to fight extra-terrestrials. He lost his arm in the 2nd Alien War and has since had it replaced with a...
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Since Dutch is now immortal per Hunting Ground tapes (or at least, extremely long-lived), it's possible this is the same character from the original Predator film, apparently enhanced by CDS cybernetics... yes, Arnold's character is a cyborg developed by CDS (Cyberdyne Systems)... moving on.
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A timeline of just Dutch's adventures could be interesting. He was in a short story in one of the Predator anthologies as well as is implied to be in the novel South China Sea. He's not named but I think the author may have said that it was his intent. The novel that goes with the game also has lots of Dutch info that inter mixes with the Hunting Grounds tapes as well. I think I have a broken down timeline of that book in my notes some where.
 
Poor John Schaefer is totally unaware his brother might be alive in Marvel's The Last Hunt comic. Dutch could have let him know he was safe over the years. :(
 

Alien script by Dan O'Bannon & Ronald Shusett

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The Original Screenplay is probably set in 2087 (or at least, after that date)... I'm not sure that works with Dallas serving on the USCSS Snark from 2100 to 2103 according to Aliens. Then again, the ship in The Original Screenplay is the USSCS Snark, not the USCSS Snark. They might be different ships.
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USSCS Snark

The USSCS Snark, registration number E180246, was a deep space commercial cargo spaceship, captained by Chaz Standard. During a voyage back to Earth, the commercial vessel USSCS Snark's computer awakens its crew of six - Captain Chaz Standard, First Officer Martine Roby, Navigator Dell...
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Plus, of course, the nature of the Aliens: The Original Screenplay comic adaptation means that it could simply be a separate reality.

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How awesome would a Schaefer brothers reunion in comic form be?
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Dutch almost never shows up in anything, so I'd love it if we finally got a conclusion to the decades old John Schaefer storyline with him finally finding out what Dutch has been up to since he disappeared.
 
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Dutch almost never shows up in anything, so I'd love it if we finally got a conclusion to the decades old John Schaefer storyline with him finally finding out what Dutch has been up to since he disappeared.
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Yeah, it'd be nice to get some closure on that one. May also blow up the timeline too with all Dutch's adventures tied to Hunting Grounds and John's comic book storylines. Still needs to happen though.
 
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