Frogwares Shared Universe - Timeline

Megatron · Mar 31, 2024

guys since 6 days ago was my bday, i was able to finally buy "Sherlock Holmes: The Awakened: Remake - Deluxe Edition" So i can finally see how it can work with the remastered.

(P.S. I don't think it is a problem since canonically the black peter case happened twice)

Megatron · Mar 31, 2024

Played Only Chapter 1 of the game. It's enough similar to be considered a remake of the original and enough different to consider it a different case.

Megatron · Mar 31, 2024

Long Story short, the story is set in 2006 and we have the great, great grandson of sherlock as the protagonist, u can also see references to Lovecraft..... ****!

Soooo sherlock's comics are canon?

P.S. About other novels = other novels tend to consider some of the canon doyle stories as fiction (idk why) so at least we don't get a reference to enola or some continuation novels ********, i won't consider other novels.

Megatron · Mar 31, 2024

okay, after finishing with the novels we'll dive into the comics.... [Spoiler: Some of the comics aren't canon].

Megatron · Apr 2, 2024

guys i'm into chapter IV of the game now. But i want to talk about chapter III. In this chapter there is a nnewspaper that says that a meteor fell on the city of arkham. This is an event that happened in July of 1882 in Lovecraft's novels.... so yeah, the chthulu Mythos are canon.

P.S. I hope we won't arrive to the moment when i have to chose if "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is canon or not".

Megatron · Jun 7, 2024

returning at this, i found a timeline for lupin. There are one good news and one bad news.

The good news is that the timeline has some holmes moments there, and the crossover novels, so we're good and Chapter One has a letter written by lupin that where he called him Herlock Sholmes, so the copyrighted name isn't a problem.

The bad news is that, lupin is born in 1874, but chapter one happens in 1880. In 1880 he stole the necklace of a noble woman, but idk if we can say that an 6 year old lupin could went briefly to cordona for tesisng sherlcok homes (who was already a detective by the time of chapter one. Also Lupin meet Holmes in 1902 for the 1st time, while nemesis happens in 1895. But maybe this could work. The only real problem is the 6 years old lupin.

https://www.coolfrenchcomics.com/arsenelupintimeline.htm

this is the timeline i've found.

Megatron · Jun 7, 2024

and what about the comics?

I have a list, here:

https://comicsworthreading.com/sherlock-holmes-in-comics/

the comics i will analize are the ones under the "canon expansions" and "related characters" sections.

Megatron · Jun 8, 2024

okay guys, i finished the awakened remake.

So the chapters set in America are ok they changed every charachter.

The chapter in London has a teaser to Moriarty.

At the end of the game, the villain says to holmes after he failed, that "The Final Problem" is coming, setting the stage for Moriarty and so the ending of this new trilogy.

After that sherlock is mad, he lost control of his mind and watson is taking care of him, explaining the lack of cases between 1882 and 1887.

There are 2 cases set in 1883 and 1886 but that could mean the sherlock was doing only small cases to restore his health.

also since we're taking the comics into account, his resistence to madness in the 2nd coming of chthulu (in the remastered) is justified thx to previus supernatural encounter, like Dracula.

So in the end both the remake and remastered can work together. What I am afraid is tif they are gonna do a sherlock holmes vs. Moriarty game, coz if they set it in idk 1883 for example could be problematic. If it's set in 1891 then we're perfect, coz it could just be an adaptation of the final problem.

Megatron · May 31, 2025

@Joao99

Joao99 · May 31, 2025

Megatron said:
@Joao99

That looks cool thanks

selfishmisery · Aug 17, 2025

Frogwares sounds like a ZX Spectrum computer game company.

Rojinn · Aug 22, 2025

Will you add Sherlock Holmes: The Mystery of the Persian Carpet?

Rojinn · Aug 22, 2025

Also, and I probably already know the answer, have you thought about including other Sherlock Holmes Media besides the original novels + Frogware titles? Like other games like the Text Adventure mentioned a while back, or the upcoming Sherlock Holmes game by Gamercury, etc.

user 16960 · Jan 26, 2026

Can someone explain to me what Frogwares Sherlock Holmes is? And why it is considered canon to the original canon of novels?

Megatron · Jan 26, 2026

Elly said:
Can someone explain to me what Frogwares Sherlock Holmes is? And why it is considered canon to the original canon of novels?

are the video games made by frogwares, and they reference the classic novels a lot.

user 16960 · Jan 26, 2026

Megatron said:
are the video games made by frogwares, and they reference the classic novels a lot.

And they share a universe with other classic novel franchises? Cthulhu, etc?

Megatron · Jan 26, 2026

Elly said:
And they share a universe with other classic novel franchises? Cthulhu, etc?

The Awakened is a crossover with Cthulhu, Nemesis with Lupin and in Awakened Remastered Poirot makes a cameo as a child.

Megatron · Jul 3, 2026

returning back to this as I'm buying the Agatha christie, Lupin and the Call of Cthulhu game to turn this thread into a shared universe.

Rojinn · Jul 3, 2026

Megatron said:
returning back to this as I'm buying the Agatha christie, Lupin and the Call of Cthulhu game to turn this thread into a shared universe.

Uh, that is exciting!

Megatron · Jul 4, 2026

So I fixed and modernized the thread, what we'll do now is:

1) doing the Hercules Poirot games set during his early cases (so to have some early 1900s dates done for 2nd step)

2) The Lupin Game, who has a framing story + an Origin Story apparently.

3) Sherlock Holmes Chapter One.

4) Keep Going with Sherlock Holmes vs. Arsène Lupin and finish Sherlock holmes.

7) See what to do next in the future.

Rojinn · Jul 4, 2026

Will you include their respective books?

Megatron · Jul 4, 2026

Rojinn said:
Will you include their respective books?

yes ofc.

Rojinn · Jul 4, 2026

Megatron said:
yes ofc.

Wasn't 100% clear, but yeah, makes sense ^^

Megatron · Jul 4, 2026

Rojinn said:
Wasn't 100% clear, but yeah, makes sense ^^

love how this could be such a cute Detective shared universe, and then the Cthulhu Mythos are here.

Speaking of witch, they could be a bit of a pain in the future.

I also have to check the Frogware Dracula's game, cos I heard that it's the story on how Dracula was written, making it canon in that case, cos the Dracula book appears in the Devil's Daughter and it's a Frogwares game.

Rojinn · Jul 4, 2026

Megatron said:
love how this could be such a cute Detective shared universe, and then the Cthulhu Mythos are here.

Speaking of witch, they could be a bit of a pain in the future.

I also have to check the Frogware Dracula's game, cos I heard that it's the story on how Dracula was written, making it canon in that case, cos the Dracula book appears in the Devil's Daughter and it's a Frogwares game.

Oh, Dracula Origins? That's funny, I installed it earlier today, but didn't start yet. Been some time since I played it

Rojinn · Jul 4, 2026

I mean, when we're going there, what other Frogwares games could count? My first thought was Journey to the Center of the Earth

Megatron · Jul 4, 2026

Rojinn said:
I mean, when we're going there, what other Frogwares games could count? My first thought was Journey to the Center of the Earth

I didn't see any references to it from the other frogwares games, so idk.

Megatron · Jul 4, 2026

Rojinn said:
Oh, Dracula Origins? That's funny, I installed it earlier today, but didn't start yet. Been some time since I played it

nice, then keep me updated!

Rojinn · Jul 5, 2026

Megatron said:
nice, then keep me updated!

Alright, just started and yeah, my question if Bram Stoker's Dracula should be included is superfluous, as the first thing you get is a letter from Jonathan Harker contradicting tge events of the novel ^^'
Also, the year doesn't fit

Rojinn · Jul 5, 2026

But, like with all Frogwares games of that time, everything is dated quite well, in this case we even see the exact date on a newspaper in the opening cutscene (Thursday September 8, 1898)

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