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[Dallas Kinard]

Actors existing in the same universe as their characters, or even actors playing more than one character in the same universe, is not an uncommon occurrence. K and J can share the same universe as Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith without the universe exploding.

I definitely don't' think the creators intended the series to be canon to the live action side of things, but again, more power to you if you can make it work flawlessly. I'm doing something similar with Green Lantern TAS, Beware The Batman and Young Justice.

 

[Pro Bot]

https://meninblack.fandom.com/wiki/The_Big_Bad_Bug_SyndromeThis is sufficient evidence that the series is a sequel to the first film. There's a flashback to the first film but in animated form, Vincent D'Onofrio reprises his role and plays relatives of his character.

The only evidence otherwise, that being the in-universe film, I have disproven. To quote someone I know who has actually seen the series, "I know there was meta joke with a film but it was so different than what happened in-universe that I didn’t feel like mentioning it".

If the in-universe film is clearly not the same as the film we've seen in real life, and the events of that film are shown to literally happen in the reality of the series, it stands to reason that they're the same universe. Further, there's a comic set after the first film where K gets de-neuralyzed, which fits perfectly between the film and series.

It's also not a stretch that K could get neuralyzed again either.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

https://meninblack.fandom.com/wiki/The_Big_Bad_Bug_SyndromeThis is sufficient evidence that the series is a sequel to the first film. There's a flashback to the first film but in animated form, Vincent D'Onofrio reprises his role and plays relatives of his character.

The only evidence otherwise, that being the in-universe film, I have disproven. To quote someone I know who has actually seen the series, "I know there was meta joke with a film but it was so different than what happened in-universe that I didn't feel like mentioning it".

If the in-universe film is clearly not the same as the film we've seen in real life, and the events of that film are shown to literally happen in the reality of the series, it stands to reason that they're the same universe. Further, there's a comic set after the first film where K gets de-neuralyzed, which fits perfectly between the film and series.

It's also not a stretch that K could get neuralyzed again either.

I'm looking forward to your thread if you start one!

 

[Pro Bot]

https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie...leprechaun-fan-film-from-terrifier-producers/

Spoiler: Leprechaun Returns / Leprechaun Revenge

Ozzie (Mark Holton) gets killed by the Leprechaun (Linden Porco) in every timeline. They both reprise the roles but the fan film short is irreconcilable with Leprechaun Returns unfortunately.

 

[Pro Bot]

https://meninblack.fandom.com/wiki/The_Big_Bad_Bug_SyndromeThis is sufficient evidence that the series is a sequel to the first film. There's a flashback to the first film but in animated form, Vincent D'Onofrio reprises his role and plays relatives of his character.

The only evidence otherwise, that being the in-universe film, I have disproven. To quote someone I know who has actually seen the series, "I know there was meta joke with a film but it was so different than what happened in-universe that I didn't feel like mentioning it".

If the in-universe film is clearly not the same as the film we've seen in real life, and the events of that film are shown to literally happen in the reality of the series, it stands to reason that they're the same universe. Further, there's a comic set after the first film where K gets de-neuralyzed, which fits perfectly between the film and series.

It's also not a stretch that K could get neuralyzed again either.

Men in Black: Retribution

Agent K has at least 5 more years, you say? Hm... 1997 + 5 = 2002, meaning he would be retired in 2002 if he doesn't go into management...

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Is it ever established where Kay lives in the series or movies?

 

[Pro Bot]

New York, no? Him being in Arizona is because he was retired.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

New York, no? Him being in Arizona is because he was retired.

I think in the second film he's in Massachusetts working for the post office.

 

[Pro Bot]

I don't see the importance of where he lives. He probably doesn't live in either Arizona or Massachusetts while working for MiB.

 

[iceman109]

And MIB agents are probably required to stay away from areas where family and friends live

 

[Pro Bot]

Piranha Timelines
Joe Dante Universe
192? - Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai 1x01, "Never Get Them Wet"
192? - Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai 1x02, "Never Feed Them After Midnight"
192? - Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai 1x03, "Always Buy a Ticket"
192? - Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai 1x04, "Don't Drink the Tea"
192? - Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai 1x05, "Always Stab or Run"
192? - Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai 1x06, "Always Buy a God a Drink First"
192? - Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai 1x07, "Never Squeeze a Fox"
192? - Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai 1x08, "Never Hug a Mogwai"
192? - Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai 1x09, "Never Give Up"
192? - Gremlins: Secrets of the Mogwai 1x10, "Never Ever Expose Them to Bright Light"
192? - Gremlins: The Wild Batch 2x01, "Always Be Ready for Adventure"
192? - Gremlins: The Wild Batch 2x02, "Never Take the Tour"
192? - Gremlins: The Wild Batch 2x03, "Never Use Double Negatives"
192? - Gremlins: The Wild Batch 2x04, "Always Bring a Toothpick"
192? - Gremlins: The Wild Batch 2x05, "There's Always a Fortune in the Cookie Factory"
192? - Gremlins: The Wild Batch 2x06, "Never Get Out of the Truck"
192? - Gremlins: The Wild Batch 2x07, "Always Ask for Backstory"
192? - Gremlins: The Wild Batch 2x08, "Never Try the Cider"
192? - Gremlins: The Wild Batch 2x09, "Always or Never Make Wishes"
192? - Gremlins: The Wild Batch 2x10, "Always Make the Hard Choice"
1978 - Piranha (1978)
1981 - The Howling
1981 - Howling II: Your Sister Is a Werewolf
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #1
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #2
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #3
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #4
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #5
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #6
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #7
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #8
1982 - Piranha II: The Spawning
1984 - Howling III: The Marsupials
1984 - Gremlins
1985 - Explorers
1987 - Howling IV: The Original Nightmare
1989 - Howling V: The Rebirth
1990 - Gremlins 2: The New Batch
1990 - Howling VI: The Freaks
1992 - Howling: New Moon Rising
2011 - The Howling: Reborn

Piranha (1995)
1995 - Piranha (1995)

Jaws Timeline
1974 - Jaws
1978 - Jaws 2
1989 - Jaws 3-D
1997 - Jaws: The Revenge
2011 - Piranha 3D
2012 - Piranha 3DD

 

[Rojinn]

The Howling/Gremlins Timeline
192? - Gremlins 1x01, "Never Get Them Wet"
192? - Gremlins 1x02, "Never Feed Them After Midnight"
192? - Gremlins 1x03, "Always Buy a Ticket"
192? - Gremlins 1x04, "Don't Drink the Tea"
192? - Gremlins 1x05, "Always Stab or Run"
192? - Gremlins 1x06, "Always Buy a God a Drink First"
192? - Gremlins 1x07, "Never Squeeze a Fox"
192? - Gremlins 1x08, "Never Hug a Mogwai"
192? - Gremlins 1x09, "Never Give Up"
192? - Gremlins 1x10, "Never Ever Expose Them to Bright Light"
192? - Gremlins 2x01, "Always Be Ready for Adventure"
192? - Gremlins 2x02, "Never Take the Tour"
192? - Gremlins 2x03, "Never Use Double Negatives"
192? - Gremlins 2x04, "Always Bring a Toothpick"
192? - Gremlins 2x05, "There's Always a Fortune in the Cookie Factory"
192? - Gremlins 2x06, "Never Get Out of the Truck"
192? - Gremlins 2x07, "Always Ask for Backstory"
192? - Gremlins 2x08, "Never Try the Cider"
192? - Gremlins 2x09, "Always or Never Make Wishes"
192? - Gremlins 2x10, "Always Make the Hard Choice"
1981 - The Howling
1981 - Howling II: Your Sister Is a Werewolf
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #1
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #2
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #3
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #4
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #5
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #6
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #7
1981 - The Howling: Revenge of the Werewolf Queen #8
1984 - Howling III: The Marsupials
1984 - Gremlins
1985 - Explorers
1987 - Howling IV: The Original Nightmare
1989 - Howling V: The Rebirth
1990 - Gremlins 2: The New Batch
1990 - Howling VI: The Freaks
1992 - Howling: New Moon Rising
2011 - The Howling: Reborn

Isn't there an easter egg that links The Howling to Joe Dante's Piranha as well?

 

[BB10]

I didn't watch The Flash but has DCEU been basically canonically erased from existence and replaced with DCU?

From what I heard, it seems DCEU may have been merged with the Clooneyverse? So, in Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2, Clooney Batman exists in their world rather than Affleck Batman? Or do theh take place prior to Flash?

I do recall James Gunn saying DCU is the direct result of Flash's time travel, so either Flash changed the timeline off-screen again and replaced the Clooney-DCEU mix, or created a branch timeline, I guess

 

[Pro Bot]

I didn't watch The Flash but has DCEU been basically canonically erased from existence and replaced with DCU?

Nope.

Earth-1 (Pre-Flashpoint)
Man of Steel -> The Flash (Start)

Earth-1 (Flashpoint)
The Flash (Alternate Timeline)

Earth-1 (Post-Flashpoint)
The Flash (End)
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
Blue Beetle

Earth-??
Creature Commandos S1
Superman
Peacemaker S2

From what I heard, it seems DCEU may have been merged with the Clooneyverse? So, in Blue Beetle and Aquaman 2, Clooney Batman exists in their world rather than Affleck Batman? Or do theh take place prior to Flash?

The post-Flash reality is either an altered DCEU or a new separate timeline completely. Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom and Blue Beetle either take place in an altered DCEU timeline or the timeline Barry left at the start of the film (the main DCEU), as the DCEU wiki considers it.

I do recall James Gunn saying DCU is the direct result of Flash's time travel, so either Flash changed the timeline off-screen again and replaced the Clooney-DCEU mix, or created a branch timeline, I guess

His statements are ambiguous. Maybe The Flash created the DCEU, maybe he didn't. I personally lean on not because the connection isn't well-established. Also makes it a more clean reboot and allows the DCEU to crossover in, I don't know, a decade.

 

[BB10]

Nope.

Earth-1 (Pre-Flashpoint)
Man of Steel -> The Flash (Start)

Earth-1 (Flashpoint)
The Flash (Alternate Timeline)

Earth-1 (Post-Flashpoint)
The Flash (End)
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
Blue Beetle

Earth-??
Creature Commandos S1
Superman
Peacemaker S2


The post-Flash reality is either an altered DCEU or a new separate timeline completely. Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom and Blue Beetle either take place in an altered DCEU timeline or the timeline Barry left at the start of the film (the main DCEU), as the DCEU wiki considers it.


His statements are ambiguous. Maybe The Flash created the DCEU, maybe he didn't. I personally lean on not because the connection isn't well-established. Also makes it a more clean reboot and allows the DCEU to crossover in, I don't know, a decade.

I found this regarding the timeline thing. At some point, they wanted to reveal DCEU still existed separately from Post-Flashpoint in the Flash Post-Credits apparently.


But it seems the plan changed.

I should watch the DCEU movies I haven't watched.

 

[Rojinn]

Isn't there an easter egg that links The Howling to Joe Dante's Piranha as well?

Not sure if that's enough of a link (I would assume so), but The Howling had a newspaper headlined "Death by Man-Eating Piranhas"

 

[Pro Bot]

I like to think that some of the alternate timelines in the DCEU allow non-canon entries like Justice League and Aquaman: King of Atlantis to happen. Aquaman: King of Atlantis is weird, by the way. Aquaman literally holds the Earth together at one point, so... uh... I see why it's a questionable sequel. It could be Nightmare timeline or Pre-Flashpoint though.

If you want, you can also throw in the Arrowverse Crisis on Infinite Earth tie-in comic as Earth-N52 was originally supposed to be the DCEU (Link). Also, an artist for Crisis on Infinite Earths animated trilogy suggested that Peacemaker in that was "100%" James Gunn's version, so you could argue he ended up in the DCAMU's multiverse while Eagly ended up in Marvel's Earth-199999 due to something after Mortal Kombat 1.

Lights Out has a crossover character with Shazam! and Sandberg has confirmed that it's the same universe.

DC Extended Universe
Earth-N52/Earth-1 (Knightmare)
2600 B.C. - Black Adam Precursor Part 1
2017 - Justice League
2019 - Aquaman: King of Atlantis
2021 - Black Adam Precursor Part 2

Earth-N52/Earth-1 (Pre-Flashpoint)
15988 - Man of Steel: Prequel #1
1918 - Wonder Woman
1918 - Wonder Woman: Epilogue: Etta's Mission
1984 - Wonder Woman 1984: Museum Madness #1
1984 - Wonder Woman 1984
1991 - Man of Steel: The Early Years: Junior Novel
1999 - Aquaman: Undertow
1999 - Aquaman: Arthur's Guide to Atlantis
2013 - Lights Out
2013 - Man of Steel
2013 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: Chapter Five, "Lex Luthor"
2013 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: Cross Fire
2013 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice #1, "Playground Heroes"
2013 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice #2, "Field Trip"
2013 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice #3, "Picture Proof"
2013 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice #4, "Lights Out"
2014 - Man of Steel: Planet Krypton
2014 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: Chapter One, "Batman"
2014 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: Chapter Two, "Lois Lane"
2014 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: Chapter Three, "Senator Finch"
2014 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: Chapter Four, "Superman"
2014 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice #1, "Upstairs/Downstairs"
2015 - Lex/OS Announcement
2015 - Fly to Gotham City With Turkish Airlines!
2015- Fly to Metropolis With Turkish Airlines!
2015 - Time Out Shortlist: Gotham/Metropolis
2015 - Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice: Ultimate Edition
2016 - Purple Lamborghini
2016 - Secret Files of the Suicide Squad #1
2016 - Suicide Squad #1, "Suicide Blonde"
2016 - Suicide Squad: Extended Cut
2017 - Zack Snyder's Justice League
2017 - Justice League: Mercedes Benz Presents #3, "Fast Food"
2018 - Justice League: Mercedes Benz Presents #1, "Joyride"
2018 - Justice League: Mercedes Benz Presents #2, "Guiding Lights"
2018 - Justice League: Mercedes Benz Presents #4, "Shifting Gears"
2018 - Justice League: Mercedes Benz Presents #5, "Pitstop"
2018 - Justice League: Mercedes Benz Presents #6, "Winner Drives"
2018 - Aquaman
2018 - Lights Out
2018 - Shazam!
2018 - Shazam!: Freddy's Guide to Super Hero-ing
2019 - Shazam!: Superhero Hooky
2019 - Crisis on Infinite Earths: Giant #1
2020 - Arrow 8x08, "Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part 4"
2020 - Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn)
2020 - Serving Up Justice #1
2020 - Serving Up Justice #2
2020 - Serving Up Justice #3
2020 - Serving Up Justice #4
2020 - The Suicide Squad
2021 - Peacemaker 1x01, "A Whole New Whirled"
2021 - Peacemaker 1x02, "Best Friends for Never"
2021 - Peacemaker 1x03, "Better Goff Dead"
2021 - Peacemaker 1x04, "The Choad Less Traveled"
2021 - Peacemaker 1x05, "Monkey Dory"
2021 - Peacemaker 1x06, "Murn After Reading"
2021 - Peacemaker 1x07, "Stop Dragon My Heart Around"
2021 - Peacemaker 1x08, "It's Cow or Never"
2021 - Peacemaker Presents: The Vigilante/Eagly Double-Feature #1
2021 - Peacemaker Presents: The Vigilante/Eagly Double-Feature #2
2021 - Peacemaker Presents: The Vigilante/Eagly Double-Feature #3
2021 - Peacemaker Presents: The Vigilante/Eagly Double-Feature #4
2021 - Peacemaker Presents: The Vigilante/Eagly Double-Feature #5
2021 - The Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #1, "Stronger Than Steel"
2021 - The Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #2, "A New Phase"
2021 - The Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #3
2021 - Black Adam: The Justice Society Files: Hawkman #1
2021 - Black Adam: The Justice Society Files: Cyclone #1
2021 - Black Adam: The Justice Society Files: Atom Smasher #1
2021 - Black Adam: The Justice Society Files: Doctor Fate #1
2021 - Black Adam
2021 - Shazam! Thundercrack #1
2022 - Aquaman: Through Fire and Water #1
2022 - Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom Special #1
2022 - Shazam!: Fury of the Gods Special: Shazamily Matters #1
2022 - Shazam!: Fury of the Gods
2022 - The Flash
2022 - Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom
2023 - Blue Beetle
2024 - Mortal Kombat 1 (Peacemaker Ending)
2023 - Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part One [DC Animated: Earth-1]
2023 - Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Two [DC Animated: Earth-1]
2023 - Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths: Part Three [DC Animated: Earth-1]
2025 - Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 3 [Marvel: Earth-199999]

Earth-1 (Flashpoint)
2013 - The Flash

Earth-1 (Post-Flashpoint)
2022 - The Flash
2025 - The Flash: Escape the Midnight Circus 1x01, "Priorities"
2025 - The Flash: Escape the Midnight Circus 1x02, "The Inherent Dangers of Time Travel"
2025 - The Flash: Escape the Midnight Circus 1x03, "Fully Torqued"
2025 - The Flash: Escape the Midnight Circus 1x04, "The Psychodome"
2025 - The Flash: Escape the Midnight Circus 1x05, "Cyclotron Don"
2025 - The Flash: Escape the Midnight Circus 1x06, "Blackout"

 

[Pro Bot]

Since they create a new universe at the end of Crisis on Infinite Earths, I guess you could say that that's the DCU and the reason it has DCEU elements is because DCEU Peacemaker was absorbed into it, but... that'd be a little weird.

 

[Rojinn]

Purple Lamborghini

Well, if you're adding this, then I would throw in the music video for "Heathens" by Twenty One Pilot as well, it frames Tyler Joseph as a prisoner in Belle Reve after all.

 

[Pro Bot]

Sure, why not. XD