Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 5)

selfishmisery said:
WHiH Newsfront Promo - July 2, 2015 (Link)
WHiH Newsfront Top Stories (Link)
WHiH Exclusive - 2012 VistaCorp break-in security footage involving cyber-criminal Scott Lang (Link)
WIRED Insider Interviews Darren Cross, CEO of Pym Technologies (Link)
WHiH EXCLUSIVE - Scott Lang Interview (Link)
Avengers Impact - A WHiH Newsfront Special Report (Link)
WHiH Newsfront - The Cost of Saving the World (Link)
WHiH Newsfront - The Avengers and the White House (Link)
WHiH Newsfront Exclusive - President Ellis Discusses the Avengers (Link)
WHiH Breaking News - Attack in Lagos (Link)
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Sorry for constantly interrupting other discussions with dead links but... these too.

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pinkbubblesgoape said:
Sorry for constantly interrupting other discussions with dead links but... these too.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjskgbOwxTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlgHyD2Re_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbGrqkhzTzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cerSehJYuOU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzv2V6josrc
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I know Geekritique has them all (and will probably keep them on YouTube) but they’re all in one video (though the Rising Tide ones are in one video, so if these links also get taken down Geekritique’s should be fine)
 
 
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/avengers-secret-wars-bring-back-165806695.html
This sounds like bullshit.

If they're gonna do what the DCU is doing, with vague history behind this new post-Secret Wars MCU, you've made it too complicated.
The difference is that the DCEU is still another Earth and didn't have near as much content as the MCU. But with Marvel, unifying everything comes at a cost.

If mutants always existed now, you've created a domino effect that erases MUCH of the MCU by 2028. Main stuff plus Agents of SHIELD would be incomprehensibly changed.
 
myusernameyes said:
If that's true then Fiege still can't admit this isn't the comics 616 and that he has a huge god complex
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The specific reasons given in the rumor I disagree with. The overall idea of a "merge" I'm 50/50 on but unsure how that's going to play out.

They have several options in that regard, but there's going to be Cons. Marvel Studios needs to consider the option with the most Pros in said outcome.
 
So let's say: restart the whole idea of a multiverse - wall it off and consider that a done-deal.

That seems to be the most likely option with the most Pros. The Cons will be in regards to the lack of consequences and basically doing what the comics did to maintain (no pun intended) shelf-life...However, the MCU is not eternal nor able to sustain that same lifespan as the comics have and still do after 80+ years. With no consequences cinematically, you've proven the criticisms regarding "lack of stakes" right from the average movie-going audience and those who are sick of the MCU. The stakes presented in Secret Wars will not matter by the end if the multiverse is restored and never acknowledged ever again; so what stops our heroes from venturing to another Earth again someday or another interruption or outside force from another Earth?
Then we're back to square one. "Multiverse Saga Part 2". This isn't the comics, we're dealing with a shared universe divided into Sagas and a large overall storyline that will eventually have an ending.


BUT if the multiverse collapses, timelines or specific elements converge and become one - you have exceeded the expectations by proving there ARE lasting consequences and the stakes were legit...but you lose all these beloved universes of yesteryear like Sam Raimi's Spider-Man and the X-Men film universe. They're all dead now.
Worse, you got more homework to do. What's gone forever and what's merged? Stuff like Raimi's Spider-Man's timeline cannot merge with the MCU's for obvious reasons. What domino effects are created as a result of the F4 and mutants existing for decades? The Sokovia Accords and Agents of SHIELD wouldn't happen now because gifted individuals were presented as a rare phenomenon. Then you have to answer more questions like what's canon and what's not? These are going to have be acknowledged and not scattered puzzle pieces we have to think over and piece together ourselves, like the Arrowverse and its adjacent material expected us to do. That's bullshit. The MCU would die from asking too much from casual fans by that point or Feige would have to break his promise about "no more homework" for Marvel Studios continuity consultants.

What about character traits so specific they won't work with these outside elements? For example, Nico Minoru's mom being dead in Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man being undone erases her whole story-arc in that show if elements from that series carry over into a hypothetical merged timeline. But if it remains intact, you've erased the events of Runaways.

I think I would prefer the latter, but that would mean AoS and Runaways specifically are just wiped from canon entirely post-Secret Wars. Quake can still exist, but her origin just occurs some other way. All in all, I think Marvel has to be discussing this right now. They need to.
 
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