DC-CW Timeline (v 3.0)

[selfishmisery]

Okay so the lack of acknowledging Kara/Supergirl and Argo City in Superman & Lois is puzzling...assuming something happens to BOTH, would it be okay to move Superman and Lois to September 2021 instead of 2020?

 

[selfishmisery]

Second question: Since "The Flash (1990-1991)" is still on this list, when the eventual Stargirl crossover comes, should I add it to here?
Same with "Green Lantern (2011)" film since the Crisis tie-in comic made it integral to the Arrowverse's story (albeit on pre-Crisis Earth-12)?

I'm excluding any instances of Earths with their own lengthy timelines like the Donnerverse or Earth-89, Batman 66, etc.

 

[Tribble314]

You're taking about

Spoiler

John Wesley Shipp on Stargirl,

right?

I think it depends.

Spoiler

The Jay Garrick of pre-Crisis Earth-3 is not necessarily the same character as the Jay Garrick of post-Crisis Earth-2. If he's explicitly not from that Earth, I'd vote to fold Stargirl into this timeline. Otherwise, I'd rather wait for a more explicit crossover.

 

[Rman]

Okay so the lack of acknowledging Kara/Supergirl and Argo City in Superman & Lois is puzzling...assuming something happens to BOTH, would it be okay to move Superman and Lois to September 2021 instead of 2020?

TBF, the show hasn't made reference to any of the other heroes. I think it's just trying to be as standalone as possible for now. I don't see how moving it up a year would help. Until we get more info, I think September 2020 is a safer bet.

Second question: Since "The Flash (1990-1991)" is still on this list, when the eventual Stargirl crossover comes, should I add it to here?
Same with "Green Lantern (2011)" film since the Crisis tie-in comic made it integral to the Arrowverse's story (albeit on pre-Crisis Earth-12)?

I'm excluding any instances of Earths with their own lengthy timelines like the Donnerverse or Earth-89, Batman 66, etc.

I personally feel like this timeline should be exclusively for Earth-Prime. Now if Stargirl crosses over in a significant way like Supergirl used to when it was on a different Earth, then I would say to include it. Until then I think it's best to leave it off.

As for Green Lantern, considering Earth-96 Superman had a decent role in Crisis but Earth-96 is off this timeline. I think the same should apply here.

 

[Pro Bot]

Second question: Since "The Flash (1990-1991)" is still on this list, when the eventual Stargirl crossover comes, should I add it to here?
Same with "Green Lantern (2011)" film since the Crisis tie-in comic made it integral to the Arrowverse's story (albeit on pre-Crisis Earth-12)?

I'm excluding any instances of Earths with their own lengthy timelines like the Donnerverse or Earth-89, Batman 66, etc.

I prefer each universe to have it's own timeline.

The Green Lantern film should have it's own timeline, in my opinion. I think it's also fair to say that the film only occurred post-crisis, too.

 

[selfishmisery]

So remove Flash 1990 from the timeline?

 

[Pro Bot]

I already have another timeline for it, in case.

 

[Pro Bot]

Pretty sure John Wesley Shipp is playing Earth-2 Flash, anyway.

 

[Tribble314]

The flashbacks from "Fair Skin, Blue Eyes" are placed correctly, but I noticed that the writers and prop-makers each messed up in different ways.

Mary says the college students canvassed the neighborhood on "Saturday, October 1st." October 1st falls on a Saturday in 1999, 2010, and 2021. My guess is they didn't even check, but it's possible that they had a 2021 calendar open.

The prop department put more thought into to newspaper.

• The second headline on the front page is "US troops narrowly escape IED attack." I can't find a story with that exact headline, but it's very plausible for any date since 2001.
• The back page has an ad for a flip-phone. So far so good!
• A headline on the back reads. "Russia Approves Kyoto Protocol." There are several real-life stories with that headline, from September-November 2004. (First when Putin's cabinet approved it, then when the Russian parliament did.)
• Another headline is partially obscured. My guess is "[First same-sex] marriage performed in Massachusetts." That would be May 17, 2004.

Although the dates are different, I suspect they decided it was 2004.

I tried to see if there was a way to make this October 1, 2004, but it's just not possible. Beth/Alice's cat from "An Un-Birthday Present" would have to stay a kitten for more than a year!

The best conclusion I can draw is that on Earth-Prime, both events from the newspaper happened in September 2003. That seems entirely plausible to me.

 

[selfishmisery]

Refresh my memory but did they say the New Carthage incident with Morgan Edge happen 2 or 3 years prior to Superman & Lois?

There was a missing poster in today's episode that showed someone affected by said incident was last seen in May *2018*.

 

[Rman]

Refresh my memory but did they say the New Carthage incident with Morgan Edge happen 2 or 3 years prior to Superman & Lois?

There was a missing poster in today's episode that showed someone affected by said incident was last seen in May *2018*.

I noticed the missing poster, but couldn't pick up much from my local SD CW. There was mention of the Harvest Festival coming up, so it's definitely Fall. I can't remember if they said for certain if it were 2 or 3 years, but May 2018 could simply come from them knowing the show would air in 2021.

 

[selfishmisery]

Updated with Superman & Lois 1x01 and 1x02.

 

[Dok]

Maybe you can put some "Unknow altered timeline" for some of the Arrow Season 2.5 chapters where Ben Turner is shown to be dead?
(Since he reappears alive in Season 7)

 

[selfishmisery]

Wait a minute.

There needs to be some kind of time jump between Batwoman 2x02 and 2x03 because of Alice and Sophie being taken to the *other side of the world* in Coryana. (Which in the comics I think is close to Greece?)

EDIT: Unless they still have access to a jet/plane, because they dope up the two before taking them to and away from the island.

 

[Tribble314]

"80 miles off the coast of Malta," but close enough.

Yeah, I would assume a plane. The closest direct commercial flight from the US is NYC-Rome: 8 hours 15 minutes. A private jet could be slightly faster. (Do we know where this version of Gotham is?)

So, they're on a plane overnight Feb 1-2. They spend part of Feb 2 on Coryana, until after sunset (at least 6:00 PM). Their flight back is chasing the sun, so they could easily arrive before midnight, no matter what time zone Gotham is in. Then they wake up in the alley the morning of Feb 3.

 

[selfishmisery]

"80 miles off the coast of Malta," but close enough.

Yeah, I would assume a plane. The closest direct commercial flight from the US is NYC-Rome: 8 hours 15 minutes. A private jet could be slightly faster. (Do we know where this version of Gotham is?)

So, they're on a plane overnight Feb 1-2. They spend part of Feb 2 on Coryana, until after sunset (at least 6:00 PM). Their flight back is chasing the sun, so they could easily arrive before midnight, no matter what time zone Gotham is in. Then they wake up in the alley the morning of Feb 3.

Gotham is in New Jersey.

Plus in SM&L, you see Jonathan Kent has a Michigan Football shirt (which he had before he moved to Smallville, Kansas), meaning Metropolis was in Michigan and Gotham City was in the Delaware Bay. (Jersey side of it)
Cisco got the two cities confused on his map I guess lmao.

 

[Rman]

Barry mentions having his powers for 7 years tonight, further proof it's still 2020.

Spoiler: Flash S7 Spoiler

With the Mirrorverse arc ending tonight, I'm curious if there's a big-time jump next episode to catch us up some with real time.

 

[selfishmisery]

Barry mentions having his powers for 7 years tonight, further proof it's still 2020.

Spoiler: Flash S7 Spoiler

With the Mirrorverse arc ending tonight, I'm curious if there's a big-time jump next episode to catch us up some with real time.

If The Flash can get their dates right, no excuse why Batwoman can't...

 

[JohnTitor]

In last episode of Superman and Lois there is a date on newspaper - October 1 or 2, 2020. Around 13:14.

 

[Rman]

So, on The Flash tonight, Iris confirmed that she was in the Mirrorverse for 3 months and the episode picks up a week after last week's episode. So up to 7x04 seems to be May 2020 (funny cause the weather is very late Fall/early Winter). I'm fully expecting this to be contradicted at some point.

On Superman & Lois, Clark confirms that it's Fall. Sure, we already figured that out but with that and the Harvest Festival, it's nice to have pretty concrete evidence.