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selfishmisery said:
Supergirl 6x02, "A Few Good Women" (0:00:00 - 0:01:51)
Supergirl 6x02, "A Few Good Women" (0:01:52 - 0:02:17) [Phantom Zone]
Supergirl 6x02, "A Few Good Women" (0:02:18 - 0:04:35)
Supergirl 6x02, "A Few Good Women" (0:04:36 - 0:07:29)
Supergirl 6x02, "A Few Good Women" (0:01:52 - 0:02:17) [Phantom Zone]
Supergirl 6x02, "A Few Good Women" (0:02:18 - 0:07:29)
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Found an error
 
Crisis is 1 year ago according to the new Superman & Lois.

Umm... almost 2 years exactly by this point; by only 3 months...
 
I'm gonna just ignore the "2022" on the one guy's mayoral campaign's shirt and posters from early in the season.
 
Rman said:
I watched the episode and noticed the "1 Year Ago" but not the 9 months. There's no way it can be 9 months as S1 and S2 both start at the beginning of different school years. Someone screwed up.
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1 Year ago per the time stamp. Within that one year, Natalie was in Limbo for 6 months following Crisis. 3 month time jump between season 1 and 2.

That's pretty big and definite, and I might have to throw out real world context you've given me depending on if my rewatching of this whole reflects any of that or not.

Let's say I ignore that "1 Year Ago" and "6 months" line, or hell the "3 months later" line: That benefits what? The 2022 on the t-shirt? The assumption that they moved to Kansas at the start of the school rather than middle (which is a thing)? From what I can tell, this is a clear retcon and ultimately I might have to wait a while for this season to end before I can update anything.
 
selfishmisery said:
1 Year ago per the time stamp. Within that one year, Natalie was in Limbo for 6 months following Crisis. 3 month time jump between season 1 and 2.

That's pretty big and definite, and I might have to throw out real world context you've given me depending on if my rewatching of this whole reflects any of that or not.
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It's not just real-world evidence though. Like you said the other mayoral candidate had a 2022 poster, the sports schedules for last season were 2020-2021. And I feel like we've seen ones this year for 2021-2022. There's no way S1 & 2 can be within the same year as both show the boys at the beginning of the school year, which is matched by two separate football seasons. The whole 6 months thing is sloppy. At least 1 Year Ago could still kinda work. This isn't the first time the shows have made an error like this. Just look at Devoe saying the Particle Accelerator accident happened on January 17th, although every other mention placed it on December 11th.
 
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Rman said:
It's not just real-world evidence though. Like you said the other mayoral candidate had a 2022 poster, the sports schedules for last season were 2020-2021. And I feel like we've seen ones this year for 2021-2022. There's no way S1 & 2 can be within the same year as both show the boys at the beginning of the school year, which is matched by two separate football seasons. The whole 6 months thing is sloppy. At least 1 Year Ago could still kinda work.
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I can ignore text on a shirt. Even a blurry calendar in the background or a blurry newspaper date.

What I can't ignore is a clear-as-day 1 Year Ago timestamp and a line about "6 months" passing since Crisis.

The football season thing is tricky, but unfortunately I don't think it reflects reality. IIRC they don't say it's fall, spring, winter, etc because it's vague.

Don't take this as me throwing out everything you've suggested to me, you've been very helpful. But it appears this show has retroactively gone beyond that based on vague information or no info given in-show that 'justifies' said retcon.

Like I said, I'll wait until the season is done. The timeline isn't broken to me yet.
 
selfishmisery said:
I can ignore text on a shirt. Even a blurry calendar in the background or a blurry newspaper date.

What I can't ignore is a clear-as-day 1 Year Ago timestamp and a line about "6 months" passing since Crisis.

The football season thing is tricky, but unfortunately I don't think it reflects reality. IIRC they don't say it's fall, spring, winter, etc because it's vague.

Don't take this as me throwing out everything you've suggested to me, you've been very helpful. But it appears this show has retroactively gone beyond that based on vague information or no info given in-show that 'justifies' said retcon.

Like I said, I'll wait until the season is done. The timeline isn't broken to me yet.
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Oh, my frustration isn't with you. It's the writers who can't keep up with their own continuity. And S1 had the Fall Festival confirming it was Fall. Where was the 6 months line at? The Devoe line was hard dialogue but was still ignored because it didn't make sense. I feel like the same applies here.
 
Rman said:
Oh, my frustration isn't with you. It's the writers who can't keep up with their own continuity. And S1 had the Fall Festival confirming it was Fall. Where was the 6 months line at? The Devoe line was hard dialogue but was still ignored because it didn't make sense. I feel like the same applies here.
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Natalie's computer said stasis lasted 6 months.
 
What DeVoe line are you referring to? January 2014?

I always took that as a timeline flux. You can't do that with Limbo or another Earth.
 
OK.

In "Tired and True" they have a line that they have been in Smallville for six months.
I might have to bump Season 2 to late Spring 2021. I'll have to figure this stuff out still.
 
selfishmisery said:
What DeVoe line are you referring to? January 2014?

I always took that as a timeline flux. You can't do that with Limbo or another Earth.
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I have the belief the other Earths weren't exactly lined up anyways. Maybe for Natalie, the stasis lasted 6 months, because her Earth was later than December 2019 when it was hit. Similar to the discussion we had with Supergirl S1 not having to match the Earth-1 timeline just because Barry crossed over. And that for him it was April 2016 but October 2016 for Kara. Plus we've already seen this in the shows. For example, Invasion happens in December 2016 on Earth-1, but when Cisco went to get Kara on Earth-38 it was just after Thanksgiving.

I just feel like there's some leeway when other Earths are involved.

selfishmisery said:
OK.

In "Tired and True" they have a line that they have been in Smallville for six months.
I might have to bump Season 2 to late Spring 2021. I'll have to figure this stuff out still.
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Weird that they would have a new Football season in the Spring. Along with Sara going to camp, but once again it's the writers not paying attention to their own show.
 
Okay okay, wait. I think I can ignore the 6 month line from Natalie's A.I. in the sense that IF we assume in Limbo there's no passage of time so she can't starve or die from whatever while there, but she was in stasis for 6 months out of...I dunno, a year.

So I might have to put a big gap between those two flashbacks.
 
selfishmisery said:
Okay okay, wait. I think I can ignore the 6 month line from Natalie's A.I. in the sense that IF we assume in Limbo there's no passage of time, but she was in stasis for 6 months out of...I dunno, a year.

So I might have to put a big gap between those two flashbacks.
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I think that could work.
 
Rman said:
I think that could work.
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Early 2021 is my guess now for Season 2. The football season and Havest season still stays true for Season 1 being in Fall 2020, but apparently there's a follow-up football season in late Spring in Smallville for Season 2.

1 year and 3-5 months since December 2019 is still 1 year ago.
 
selfishmisery said:
Early 2021 is my guess now for Season 2. The football season and Havest season still stays true for Season 1 being in Fall 2020, but apparently there's a follow-up football season in late Spring in Smallville for Season 2.

1 year and 3-5 months since December 2019 is still 1 year ago.
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I feel like it could be contradicted later on, but I guess it'll have to work for now. It's just aggravating when S1 clearly ended around Summer and S2 has seemed to be late Summer/early Fall. I feel like overall though, since Covid they've gotten pretty lazy when it comes to the timeline matching. I feel like a lot of it has to do with less connections.
 
Another thought came to mind: Did John Henry Irons end up on Earth-1 or Earth-Prime when leaving his Earth?

Because there were weeks in between Crisis and Earth-Prime's creation so...are we to think that anomaly portal that brought him there was...I don't know, time travel?
But why was he able to but when Barry tried to go to the future there was an anti-matter barrier? Was that just the speed force getting affected?
If that's the case, that would explain why Mia Queen and her future still somewhat existed with Crisis in the horizon. I guess when Earth-1 finally got wiped off the map by the end, all of that was mute.
 
Rewording this:

So Crisis was apparently "1 Year Ago". Okay. Natalie ended up in Limbo and was at one point in stasis for "6 months" according to her A.I. Getting a little confusing when you consider this isn't currently set in 2020 by a long shot. But that's Limbo so time doesn't matter.
But then it hit me: If John Henry Irons went through the anomaly and already ended up on EARTH-PRIME ...how does that work?
Are we meant to see the time gap between the death of the original multiverse and the creation of Earth-Prime as instantaneous? I mean, I know Earth-Prime is the merging of several different Earth timelines into one cemented timeline - but what does that meant for someone from the old multiverse's timeline?
 
selfishmisery said:
Rewording this:

So Crisis was apparently "1 Year Ago". Okay. Natalie ended up in Limbo and was at one point in stasis for "6 months" according to her A.I. Getting a little confusing when you consider this isn't currently set in 2020 by a long shot. But that's Limbo so time doesn't matter.
But then it hit me: If John Henry Irons went through the anomaly and already ended up on EARTH-PRIME ...how does that work?
Are we meant to see the time gap between the death of the original multiverse and the creation of Earth-Prime as instantaneous? I mean, I know Earth-Prime is the merging of several different Earth timelines into one cemented timeline - but what does that meant for someone from the old multiverse's timeline?
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I think you probably put more thought in it than they did when deciding to connect with Crisis. The rules have always been convoluted.
 
Rman said:
I think you probably put more thought in it than they did when deciding to connect with Crisis. The rules have always been convoluted.
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Convoluted yes.

But if time did not pass between the death of the old and new multiverse, than that means John Henry Irons ended up on Earth-Prime in January 2020 - one year ago.

There is nothing between December 10, 2019 and January 14, 2020 for anyone whose Earth was destroyed by Crisis *and* didn't merge with Earth-1 into Earth-Prime. It's instant. You get where I'm coming from on this?
 
selfishmisery said:
Convoluted yes.

But if time did not pass between the death of the old and new multiverse, than that means John Henry Irons ended up on Earth-Prime in January 2020 - one year ago.

There is nothing between December 10, 2019 and January 14, 2020 for anyone whose Earth was destroyed by Crisis *and* didn't merged with Earth-1 into Earth-Prime. It's instant. You get where I'm coming from on this?
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No, I get it. I'm just saying it's probably best not to think too hard about it.
 
Rman said:
No, I get it. I'm just saying it's probably best not to think too hard about it.
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Why? The timeline logistics given in the Arrowverse are actually consistent when you break it all down and those are, themselves, convoluted.

Just because it's convoluted doesn't mean it wasn't thought out that way. It may be BS science but it's lore.;)
 
I'm talking timeline as in the flow of time and the consequences of things like time travel, not the year-by-year timeline like I'm working on.
 
To rest my point - nothing is ever simple when you have to create lore. Don't believe me? Then you don't know how much DC does put extra-extra thought into the logistics of this stuff.

BOOKS were written about it. :p It's just a matter of when they'll explain it.
 

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