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Megatron

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if I remember should be :
1) Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny [1940]
2) Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny: Mission Packs: Mission 2: Return to Danger [1941]
3) Wolfenstein 3D: Original Encounter: First Encounter [1942]
4) Wolfenstein 3D: Original Encounter: Second Encounter [1942]
5) Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny: Missions Packs: Mission 3: Ultimate Challenge [1944/2144]
6) Wolfenstein 3D: Nocturnal Missions [1945]
7) Wolfenstein 3D [1945]
 
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Jozaca

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Megatron said:
if I remember should be :
1) Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny [1940]
2) Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny: Mission Packs: Mission 2: Return to Danger [1941]
3) Wolfenstein 3D: Original Encounter: First Encounter [1942]
4) Wolfenstein 3D: Original Encounter: Second Encounter [1942]
5) Wolfenstein 3D: Nocturnal Missions [1942]
6) Wolfenstein 3D: Original Encounter: Third Encounter [1942]
7) Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny: Missions Packs: Mission 3: Ultimate Challenge [1944/2144]
8) Wolfenstein 3D [1945]
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But... The Third Encounter is part of the Original Encounter...and the Second Encounter is the original release? What? I am not even confused by the chronological placement. I am confused about how many levels they are
 
Megatron

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First Encounter was the free demo, Second Encounter was the demo + the new levels, third encounter another campaign.
so if you take original encounter (first + second + third) and 3D should be 90 levels.
 
Megatron

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ERROR I MADE
Original Encounter is only first + second. Third is another thing in the game. Storywise is also part of the Original Encounter
 
Jozaca

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??? Third encounter is the original original game + nocturnal mission, original encounter is 1+ 2 encounter, first encounter is 3 first levels and second encounter depending of who you ask is, either the 27 restant levels or the 27 level+ first encounter, making it the same as original encounter. Also the version of the game with the 3 encounters is the one that replaces the nocturnal mission bosses for spear of destiny bosses, the snes version has rats instead of dogs so lets just asume it is not canon, and there are repeated levels in some of the encounters... So the Steam version and GOG version are not the definitive versions, since they lack the first 2 encounters...
 
Jozaca

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Jozaca said:
OMG I so confused by all the Wolfenstein 3D ports and "encounters"
I am going to list everything in Wolfenstein 3D and Spear of Destiny to see if I am missing something:



  • Wolfenstein 3D
    • Wolfenstein 3D: The Third Encounter
      • Wolfenstein 3D
        • Episode 1: Escape from Castle Wolfenstein
          • Floor 1-9
          • Floor 10 (secret level)
        • Episode 2: Operation: Eisenfaust
          • Floor 1-9
          • Floor 10 (secret level)
        • Episode 3: Die, Führer, Die!
          • Floor 1-9
          • Floor 10 (secret level)
      • Nocturnal Missions
        • Episode 4: Dark Secret
          • Floor 1-9
          • Floor 10 (secret level)
        • Episode 5: Trail of the Madman
          • Floor 1-9
          • Floor 10 (secret level)
        • Episode 6: Confrontation
          • Floor 1-9
          • Foor 10 (secret level)
    • Wolfenstein 3D: Original Encounter
      • Wolfenstein 3D: The First Encounter
        • Floor 1-3
      • Wolfenstein 3D: The Second Encounter
        • Floor 4-30
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Is this right? Without even getting into Spear of Destiny and its level packs...
 
Megatron

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1) Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny (Game) [21 September 1940]
2) Wolfenstein: Graphic Novel #2 (Promotional video adapting Spear of Destiny)
3) Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny: Mission Packs: Mission 2: Return to Danger (Game) [Febbruary 1941]
4) Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (Game) [1942-1943]
5) Wolfenstein RPG (Game) [1942]
6) Wolfenstein 3D: Original Encounter: First Encounter (Game) [1942]
7) Wolfenstein 3D: Original Encounter: Second Encounter (Game) [1942]
8) Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Operation Resurrection (Game) [14 March 1943]
9) Return to Castle Woolfenstein (Game) [15-23 March 1943]
10) Wolfenstein: Graphic Novel #3 (Promotional video adapting Return to Castle Wolfenstein)
11) Castle Wolfenstein (Game) [17 August 1943]
12) Escape From Wolfenstein (Short Story) [19-21 August 1943]
13) Beyond Castle Wolfenstein (Game) [20 July 1944]
14) Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny: Missions Packs: Mission 3: Ultimate Challenge (Game) [1944/2144]
15) Wolfenstein 3D: Nocturnal Missions (Game) [Febbruary 1945]
16) Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Tides of War: Wolfenstein 3D Classic (Game) [Febbruary 1945]
17) Wolfenstein: Graphic Novel #1 (Promotional video adapting Wolf 3D)
18) Wolfenstein: Graphic Novel #4 (Promotional video prologue to Wolfenstein) [July 1945]
19) Wolfenstein [July 1945]
20) Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (Game on alternate earth) [20 December 1945 (Nightmare), 16-18 March 1946 (Main Game, 16 July 1946 (Ending)]
21) BOOM BOOM (Trailer on alternate earth) [1949]
22) Wolfenstein: The New Order (Game on alternate Earth) [20 December 1945 (Nightmare), 16 July 1946 (Prologue), 9 October 1960-18 Febbruary 1961 (Main Game)]
23) Wolfenstein: The Deep (Comic set in alternate Earth) [1946 (Flashback), 1961 (Main Plot)]
24) Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus (Game set in alternate Earth) [1919-1921 (Flashback), 18 Febbruary-16 August 1961 (Main Story), 1966 (The Freedom Chronicles)]
25) Wolfenstein: Cyberpilot (Game sei in alternate earth) [26 March 1980]
26) Wolfenstein: Youngblood (game set in alternate earth) [17 April 1980]

ALL THE HINT BOOKS , MANUALS QUAKE BIOS HAVE MORE CANON INFORMATIONS.

This should be Everything, if I forget something tell me.
 
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Jozaca

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Megatron said:
15) Wolfenstein 3D: Nocturnal Missions (Game) [Febbruary 1945]
16) Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Tides of War: Wolfenstein 3D Classic (Game) [Febbruary 1945]
17) Wolfenstein: Graphic Novel #1 (Promotional video adapting Wolf 3D)
18) Wolfenstein: Graphic Novel #4 (Promotional video prologue to Wolfenstein) [July 1945]
19) Wolfenstein [July 1945]
20) Wolfenstein: The Old Blood (Game on alternate earth) [20 December 1945 (Nightmare), 16-18 March 1946 (Main Game, 16 July 1946 (Ending)]
21) BOOM BOOM (Trailer on alternate earth) [1949]
22) Wolfenstein: The New Order (Game on alternate Earth) [20 December 1945 (Nightmare), 16 July 1946 (Prologue), 9 October 1960-18 Febbruary 1961 (Main Game)]
23) Wolfenstein: The Deep (Comic set in alternate Earth) [1946 (Flashback), 1961 (Main Plot)]
24) Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus (Game set in alternate Earth) [1919-1921 (Flashback), 18 Febbruary-16 August 1961 (Main Story), 1966 (The Freedom Chronicles)]
25) Wolfenstein: Cyberpilot (Game sei in alternate earth) [26 March]
26) Wolfenstein: Youngblood (game set in alternate earth) [17 April 1980]

ALL THE HINT BOOKS , MANUALS QUAKE BIOS HAVE MORE CANON INFORMATIONS.

This should be Everything, if I forget something tell me.
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-Is there any particular reason of why Wolfenstein 3D Classic of Tides of War is here instead of Wolfenstein 3D? There is something that indicates that it is the "definitive version" or something like that?
-I guess that you are implying the Graphic novel retellings are swappable with the original games, right? I haven´t seen them but there is any posibility that it is B. J. retelling what happened?
-I don´t understand the nighmare parts, I have played Old Blood and New Order but I don´t remember them, are the nightmares the wolfenstein 3d levels or something else? If it is the first case does that mean that Wolfenstein 3D happens in diferent points in time in the 2 universes?
 
Megatron

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Jozaca said:
-Is there any particular reason of why Wolfenstein 3D Classic of Tides of War is here instead of Wolfenstein 3D? There is something that indicates that it is the "definitive version" or something like that?
-I guess that you are implying the Graphic novel retellings are swappable with the original games, right? I haven´t seen them but there is any posibility that it is B. J. retelling what happened?
-I don´t understand the nighmare parts, I have played Old Blood and New Order but I don´t remember them, are the nightmares the wolfenstein 3d levels or something else? If it is the first case does that mean that Wolfenstein 3D happens in diferent points in time in the 2 universes?
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1) Tides of War is the version where the date "February 1945" is visible.
2) It's like an actual comic adaptation of a movie, if you want to watch them, I will link them to you now:
3) They Are the Wolf 3D levels and nope the developers sayed explicity that the version of Wolf 3d that we played isn't canon in the new universe.

P.S. I Forgot to put the year to Cyberpilot, now it's correct.
 
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Jozaca

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Megatron said:
3) They Are the Wolf 3D levels and nope the developers sayed explicity that the version of Wolf 3d that we played isn't canon in the new universe.
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But, what does it mean? The levels in the nightmares are supposed to be canon or are they supposed to be deformed memories?
Because if they are not what happened, then they are not supossed to be in 1945, they would be in 1961 as nightmares
 
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Megatron

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Becouse a document in the old Blood set them in 1945, the One about the attempt at the Life of Hitler.
 
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Jozaca said:
Classic Universe
1940
September 21
Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny/Wolfenstein: Graphic Novel #2
1942
February
Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny [Mission 2: Return to Danger]
1942-1943
Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
1942
Wolfenstein RPG
Wolfenstein 3D: Original Encounter: [First Encounter]
Wolfenstein 3D: Original Encounter: [Second Encounter]
1943
March 14
Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Operation Resurrection
March 15-23
Return to Castle Woolfenstein/Wolfenstein: Graphic Novel #3
August 17
Castle Wolfenstein
August 19-21
Escape From Wolfenstein (Short Story)
1944
20 July
Beyond Castle Wolfenstein
???
Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny [Mission 3: Ultimate Challenge] (features travel to 2144)
1945
February
Wolfenstein 3D [Nocturnal Missions] [Febbruary 1945]
Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Tides of War: Wolfenstein 3D Classic/Wolfenstein: Graphic Novel #1
July
Wolfenstein: Graphic Novel #4
Wolfenstein



Reboot Universe
1945
-Wolfenstein: The Old Blood [20 December 1945 (Nightmare), 16-18 March 1946 (Main Game, 16 July 1946 (Ending)]
-BOOM BOOM (Trailer) [1949]
-Wolfenstein: The New Order [20 December 1945 (Nightmare), 16 July 1946 (Prologue), 9 October 1960-18 Febbruary 1961 (Main Game)]
-Wolfenstein: The Deep (Comic) [1946 (Flashback), 1961 (Main Plot)]
-Wolfenstein 2: The New Colossus [1919-1921 (Flashback), 18 Febbruary-16 August 1961 (Main Story), 1966 (The Freedom Chronicles)]
1980
26 March
Wolfenstein: Cyberpilot
17 April
Wolfenstein: Youngblood
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Returns to danger Is actually set in febbruary of 1941, the hint book mention that this expansion Is set 6 months After Spear of Destiny.
 
Jozaca

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The Castle Wolfenstein and Beyond Castle Wolfenstein dates come from the weird wiki explanation of extrapolating real-life attempts of killing Hitler to the Wolfentein universe, right?
 
Megatron

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Jozaca said:
The Castle Wolfenstein and Beyond Castle Wolfenstein dates come from the weird wiki explanation of extrapolating real-life attempts of killing Hitler to the Wolfentein universe, right?
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Castle Wolfenstein comes from the short story.
Beyond from the real Life event.
 
Jozaca

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Where does the Wolfenstein 3D Classic in Tides of War tell the February date? There is any intro slide, a manual or a reference in other part of the game that tells that?
 
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