I just realized something

I've been reading my old Ultimate trades one last time before heading out to college next month; and for the first time I noticed one of the worst continuity mistakes ever.

In "Frightful" Doctor Doom sacrifices himself by entering the Zombie world, while possessed by a world destroying parasite.

Several years of comics later, Jeph Loeb 'reintroduces' him as an evil mastermind in Ultimates 3. Then Doom was killed in Ultimatum, presumably for good.

I don't understand how a professional comic company could let this happen. I don't mean to be a whiny nerd here, but this doesn't seem like a little detail. It betrays the very idea that these are serial stories being sold every month.

I also legitimately want to know; how could no one convince Loeb to dedicate a single page to how Doom went from A to B? Is there actually a reason it was ignored?
 

ProjectX2

Don't expect me to take you with me when I go to s
Doom returning from the zombie universe with the Lovecraftian beastie inside of him to destroy everything should have been what Ultimatum was about.
 

Zombipanda

My Boom-Boom's mostly gay
Doom returning from the zombie universe with the Lovecraftian beastie inside of him to destroy everything should have been what Ultimatum was about.

Remind me to post up my awesome Ultimatum pitch sometime. It involved that.
 
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ProjectX2

Don't expect me to take you with me when I go to s
Remind me to post up my awesome Ultimatum pitch sometime. It involved that.

So did mine. :)

I posted a basic one paragraph summary in one of the Ultimatum threads but I cannot find it. :(
 
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Bass

Nexus of the World
From my past self:
FIVE ALTERNATE PLOTS FOR A "END THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE" MINI:

GAH LAK TUS - Warren Ellis is a big *****. Gah Lak Tus was hyped by three super-delayed mini-series with terrific artists and he never even got to Earth. Well, Ellis detailed how GLT eats planets and its awesome. So he actually gets to Earth this time. His inherent gravity is what causes the tidal waves and environmental shifts. He drives people insane, so LOTS of regualr people are eating Wasp (or just Blob - but at least it makes sense now). It's GAH LAK TUS properly about to eat the world.

THE GENETIC WAR - That thing Bendis has been gabbing on about since the early days of USM but will never pay off (y'know, like Skrulls, and 'the connections of the ultimate universe' and all the other storylines he claims he plans years in advance but end up having no cohesive plot). Each issue focuses on the most important part of a single year of this 'genetic war'. Consider that WW2 was 6 years long, this could work. The first issue details the start of the war, the second issue jumps a year ahead and details the most important part of that year (like the Somme or the Battle of Britain or the discovery of the Enigma code or the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshima or the Cuban Missile Crisis or the Bay of Pigs... just some momentous war event), culminating in the last issue demonstrating the end of this 'genetic war'.

616 CROSSOVER - It hasn't happened yet, and it's something that is still potentially cool. It was originally never going to happen to preserve the integrity of the two universes... considering that 616 has spent the last 8 years copying the ultimate universe and the ultimate universe has become poor, integrity shouldn't really matter anymore.

GIVE THE ULTIMATE TREATMENT TO A COOL 616 DYSTOPIA - Days of Future Past. Age of Apocalypse. Earth X. On of these actually happens and we see it play out in the slow, decompressed, boring pace the ultimate universe is known for. The crossover is really just the catalyst, afterwards, the Ultimate universe really becomes this different kind of world. Unfortunately, this lacks the 'reset button' required to keep USM as it is, so no doubt, this would have to be addressed.

KANG - Because he's like, the only cool 616 villain who hasn't been ultimized yet. Have him suddenly appear and conquer the past because he can... or, dare I say... because he... KANG!!!

I would heartily like to add the "Doom Zombie thingy" to my list of five.
 
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This is now a thread about Doom in the Zombie universe, and what he he did there. Also Could-have-been Ultimates plots that should-have-been.

I'm not very experienced at this, but I think a cool mini would have involved Doom going on a similar, but more in depth arc that Magneto had. He hooks up with some ordinary humans and outruns the marvel zombies, flitting from place to place while putting together a plan to return to his home universe.

The beastie in his breast could also break free, but not only did Doom screw up the spell to expel it, he was wrong about it's nature. Does anyone more versed in Lovecraft know about a less apocalyptic Old One?
 

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