Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (continued)

Rman

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From my experience, there are some people who expect MCU properties to just constantly reference each other, and so people started to "theorise" they were separate when the Netflix shows didnt just constantly reiterate the plots of the latest movies.

This view got a bit of merit when Endgame came out and the shows got immediately cancelled. As someone who views the shows as canon myself, I can admit that the fact that AOS and Runaways occur during the snap and its not mentioned is a bit awkward. But those discrepancies are common in the comics because keeping track of shared universes is really hard.

Over time its become so ingrained that the show are "definitely not canon" that people just cant accept otherwise, so now they have to come up with more convoluted theories to cover up the gaps rather than accept they were wrong.

It really shows the power of echo chambers to ingrain a tightly held belief about something
For me personally, it isn't that I feel there needs to be references, it's more that it's obvious the reason there is contradiction is because of the division between Marvel Studios and Marvel Television. To the point, those behind the scenes are lazily saying it's "pre-snap" even when the evidence within those actual shows says otherwise. I'm not saying the shows aren't canon, just that if Marvel Studios saw them as important as their own projects, I'm sure they would have made sure everything lined up.

Also, it's much easier to maintain continuity in a visual medium like the MCU and I don't think it's a fair comparison to compare it to the comics when it comes to discrepancies. The timeline becomes less convoluted when you consider just Marvel Studios productions, which isn't me saying the shows aren't canon, just that it's at the very least obvious Marvel Studios doesn't see them on the same level as their own productions when it comes to having everything fit.

I mean even when there was more of a connection, it didn't always line up. If you watch the AoS tie-in to The Winter Soldier, the episode makes it look like the events of the movie happen within a day (Sitwell leaves for the Lemurian Star less than 24 hours from when HYDRA is revealed) compared to a few days like the movie.
 

Rman

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It only bothers me when people believe things that are literally proven to be untrue and aren't open to the idea they could be wrong. That bothers me.
I think that works both ways though which is why I hate the whole canon argument. If you believe it’s canon, it shouldn’t bother you what others think and Vice versa. I personally understand why both sides feel the way they do and people should just agree to disagree. Neither side is going to change their view on the argument.
 

Dallas Kinard

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I think that works both ways though which is why I hate the whole canon argument. If you believe it’s canon, it shouldn’t bother you what others think and Vice versa. I personally understand why both sides feel the way they do and people should just agree to disagree. Neither side is going to change their view on the argument.
Sure. The problem is, what if someone said they believe 1994's Fantastic Four is canon to the MCU? Or heck, what if they think Star Wars is the MCU's past? It's a slippery slope.
 

Rman

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We just had an entire episode proving that wrong. I'm done letting people think that. It is untrue, and it's VERY obvious Marvel considers those shows canon.
I saw nothing within the actual episode that confirmed it either way. I’m not saying the show isn’t canon or that Marvel Studios doesn’t see it that way, but I didn’t see anything specific that would change peoples minds. Reusing the theme music is no different than them reusing the X-Men or Spider-Man themes. I’m not wanting to argue so I’ll leave it at that.
 

Pro Bot

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You mean... when Cox said he has no idea? That he was speculating? When he said that he thinks that Marvel are doing a whole new thing?

Ah yes, an actor being undefinitive is more reliable than a very clear article by Marvel themselves.
 

fuzzyfoot

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Fandoms are like this no matter what it is. I used to frequent a specific comic shop in Los Angeles when my main store didn't have a variant or attempting to find a GOOD copy of Amazing Spider-Man 800 or something like that. I enjoy chatting up the current storylines and seeing what other people think and where something might go. Anyway, during the Red Goblin storyline, I had to go there, and so I asked him his thoughts.

"Why do you even care about that? It's just a rip-off of (insert whatever story), as far as I'm concerned Marvel Comics ended with the death of Mar-Vell and everything since then has been nothing more than mainstream What If."

I looked it up since that was so long ago. 1982. A comic shop OWNER has been selling floppies for 40 years and has shit all over everything in that timeframe because to him, the comics began, ended, and consisted of whatever he felt like it did.
 

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