Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (continued)

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Lebnyx

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Talos tells Fury in the post credit scene that Peter was given the glasses for 1 week!
Yep. When the digital/Blu-Ray release comes out, I'll use that information to list a precise date on the timeline, depending on any onscreen dates shown throughout the movie.
 

Jalaguy

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Far From Home explicitly takes place at the very beginning of the summer holidays - the school news segment at the beginning mentions it's the last day of school, and then the trip starts the next day IIRC - so there's basically no way for it to take place in 2023 without inventing stuff out of thin air like a new school calendar.

Also, Peter is considered 16 still in Far From Home, which likely means that there's not been an August since the the snapped people returned (since he was 16 when the snap happened). That checks out if they return in late 2023 and FFH is early summer 2024, but doesn't check out if they return in early 2023 and FFH is late summer 2023.
 

Pro Bot

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The more I think about it, Venom doesn't really work in the MCU for several (albeit timeline related) reasons:

The 2018 email would indicate October 2018 - April 2019 because of it's content about the NCLA Presidential Reception (see SUoMC Timeline).

If we ignore that, the earliest it can be is January 2018 - July 2018. Sure, we could push Infinity War to late June, but that just seems ridiculous because of the Scott Lang comment Black Widow makes. July is definitely impossible.

Eddie being sceptical of aliens is fine, as that happened in Runaways too, and the only aliens that the public really knew at the time were from the Incident. Inhumans don't count.

Point being, the timeline would be hard to work around so for now I'm glad Venom is not in the MCU, at least until the timeline becomes clear in future films (Morbius, Venom 2, etc.).
 

selfishmisery

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The more I think about it, Venom doesn't really work in the MCU for several (albeit timeline related) reasons:

The 2018 email would indicate October 2018 - April 2019 because of it's content about the NCLA Presidential Reception (see SUoMC Timeline).

If we ignore that, the earliest it can be is January 2018 - July 2018. Sure, we could push Infinity War to late June, but that just seems ridiculous because of the Scott Lang comment Black Widow makes. July is definitely impossible.

Eddie being sceptical of aliens is fine, as that happened in Runaways too, and the only aliens that the public really knew at the time were from the Incident. Inhumans don't count.

Point being, the timeline would be hard to work around so for now I'm glad Venom is not in the MCU, at least until the timeline becomes clear in future films (Morbius, Venom 2, etc.).
Or we could ignore the "2018" like we ignored the "2013" newspaper date in Iron Man 3; IF it was MCU 'canon'.

Bare in mind, Venom takes place in San Francisco, but there's no sign of Ant-Man. I'd dare say the Venom movie could fit in early 2015 since Scott Lang isn't Ant-Man yet.
And they promoted a 2015 bike (the "Ducati Scrambler") for the Venom movie.

(As of right now though, it's not in the MCU. I'm just theorizing if it somehow was.)
 

Pro Bot

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Or we could ignore the "2018" like we ignored the "2013" newspaper date in Iron Man 3; IF it was MCU 'canon'.

Bare in mind, Venom takes place in San Francisco, but there's no sign of Ant-Man. I'd dare say the Venom movie could fit in early 2015 since Scott Lang isn't Ant-Man yet.
And they promoted a 2015 bike (the "Ducati Scrambler") for the Venom movie.
October 2014 - April 2015, taking into account the NCLA Presidential Reception meeting but discounting the 2018 date. Sure, I'm good with that, although 10 years between Venom and Spider-Man 3 (presumably when a crossover would happen)? That's quite long.

You could also argue that Scott doesn't show up for the same reason Iron Man wasn't in every New York event, like New York earthquakes or S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarriers falling out of the sky. He's was... busy?

No point in really worrying about it yet. Not canon, completely hypothetical.
 
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selfishmisery

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October 2014 - April 2015, taking into account the NCLA Presidential Reception meeting but discounting the 2018 date. Sure, I'm good with that, although 10 years between Venom and Spider-Man 3 (presumably when a crossover would happen)? That's quite long.

You could also argue that Scott doesn't show up for the same reason Iron Man wasn't in every New York event, like New York earthquakes or S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarriers falling out of the sky. He's was... busy?

No point in really worrying about it yet. Not canon, completely hypothetical.
If Eddie got dusted, you could just cut off 5 years from that time difference.

But like you said, hypothetical.
 

Lebnyx

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Going back to my earlier post: the Netflix seasons, for the most part, take place in the same order as they were released, due to character arcs and dialogue references to time.

I also determined that Daredevil S3 takes place in late 2017, because Karen still works for the New York Bulletin in LC 2x11.

The official description for Iron Fist S2 says "Danny has promised that with Matt Murdock gone, he will step up and protect his city". This, as well as dialogue from IF 2x03, seems to imply it takes place before Daredevil S3.

Does anyone think I should move Iron Fist to between Luke Cage S2 and Daredevil S3, or should I leave it as is?
 

Pro Bot

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Going back to my earlier post: the Netflix seasons, for the most part, take place in the same order as they were released, due to character arcs and dialogue references to time.

I also determined that Daredevil S3 takes place in late 2017, because Karen still works for the New York Bulletin in LC 2x11.

The official description for Iron Fist S2 says "Danny has promised that with Matt Murdock gone, he will step up and protect his city". This, as well as dialogue from IF 2x03, seems to imply it takes place before Daredevil S3.

Does anyone think I should move Iron Fist to between Luke Cage S2 and Daredevil S3, or should I leave it as is?
Do a vote.

It's either:
Use the order that's implied
Use prop dates and logic to explain Matt Murdock
 

Slyonic

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I might have something that could help with the Netflix shows placements.
Marvel is holding an auction for Marvel Netflix props and there's a PDF with every item, so we can have a look at the dates on them. Here's a few I found:

Frank Castle's admission date to the hospital in DD 2x06 is 07/12/2015.

In DD 3x03 Foggy has a credit card of Karen that's valid thru 05/17.

In DD 3x05, there's a notebook from Pointdexter's therapist, with dates from her sessions being March 20 and 27, April 4, 11, 18 and 25, and May 3 and 10.

In Luke Cage 2x05, Luke gets a subpoena for beating up Cockroach. I believe the date says it's in 2018 but I can't really make out the day and month. Could be 04-12. I'm not sure.

In Luke Cage 2x09 Bushmaster's arrest warrant says 06-20-2018.

In Iron Fist 1x05, Danny's credit card is valid thru 03/17. It was however issued 03/13, which is weird considering he was gone for so long.

Here's the link for those interested:
https://propstore.com/marvel/
 

DE23111

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I am currently taking notes on the Netflix MCU to try and place where I think everything works the best. It's kind of hard to scroll through the whole thing and see where everything is currently placed and why...would anyone be willing to give me a quick recap of how the current MCU timeline is laid out on this timeline?
 

Lebnyx

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I am currently taking notes on the Netflix MCU to try and place where I think everything works the best. It's kind of hard to scroll through the whole thing and see where everything is currently placed and why...would anyone be willing to give me a quick recap of how the current MCU timeline is laid out on this timeline?
I don't know where to start, so here's the timeline evidence document:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IIZjrbMi68md2zlWwP4KgcUw8P-krLhKIulpNYAvBJw/

I don't think I have all the evidence written for the shows/movies just yet, but the exact timestamps are listed.
 

Lebnyx

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I might have something that could help with the Netflix shows placements.
Marvel is holding an auction for Marvel Netflix props and there's a PDF with every item, so we can have a look at the dates on them. Here's a few I found:

Frank Castle's admission date to the hospital in DD 2x06 is 07/12/2015.

In DD 3x03 Foggy has a credit card of Karen that's valid thru 05/17.

In DD 3x05, there's a notebook from Pointdexter's therapist, with dates from her sessions being March 20 and 27, April 4, 11, 18 and 25, and May 3 and 10.

In Luke Cage 2x05, Luke gets a subpoena for beating up Cockroach. I believe the date says it's in 2018 but I can't really make out the day and month. Could be 04-12. I'm not sure.

In Luke Cage 2x09 Bushmaster's arrest warrant says 06-20-2018.

In Iron Fist 1x05, Danny's credit card is valid thru 03/17. It was however issued 03/13, which is weird considering he was gone for so long.

Here's the link for those interested:
https://propstore.com/marvel/
Thanks for the link. I'll see if I can find any other prop dates and see whether they can work with the timeline.
 
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DE23111

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So, The Punisher series is pretty well distanced from the Defender's universe. In fact I remember reading that the showrunner of The Punisher was told that Frank couldn't interact with any of the other Defenders (https://comicbook.com/marvel/2017/11/14/punisher-season-1-marvel-cameos-defenders/) and I'm wondering if that is because they already had a timeline laid out and planned. The reason I bring this up is because I'm curious as to whether the Netflix stuff NEEDS to be in the order of release. Like, I have a theory that maybe Punisher happens during like a Defenders break. Keep in mind that this theory does contradict some evidence in the sheet, but I explain why those things can be disregarded.

What if......

Daredevil 2/ Luke Cage (Late 2015)
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Punisher (November 2016)
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Iron Fist (January 2017)
^ This is probably throwing some people off, but hear me out. First thing, I hate that cell phone date, it's up for like a second and continues the Netflix tradition of unreliable phone dates (Luke Cage and Daredevil have been equally unreliable.) . Second thing, the festival is CLEARLY Chinese New Year, I don't even know how this is debated, but that is pretty clear if you look up the customs of Chinese festivals. Third, in Season One of Iron Fist they tell us 60,543 times that Danny has been gone for Fifteen years. In the first Episode of Iron Fist 2, he says "I missed the LAST fifteen years of culture" insinuating to me that Iron Fist and Iron Fist 2 go down on the same year just on different sides of it.
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Defenders (March 2017)
^ I know. The laptop date. But I think the best way to figure out a timeline is to not only use in-universe facts but also real world facts as well. And this is why I find that date to be unreliable. Because the Defenders began filming on October 31st, 2016, which means it is pretty damn possible that what we are seeing on the computer is actually just the date that that scene was filmed. And there are things you can use to argue that Defenders happens with Punisher, but there is nothing that I have seen that can't be, very easily, debunked.
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Jessica Jones 2 (Pretty soon after Defenders, like maybe a couple of weeks depending on where Defenders goes. So if Defenders is early March, JJ2 is late March 2017)
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Luke Cage 2 (August/September 2017)
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Daredevil 3 (October? 2017 [They say the temperature has started getting colder...]
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Punisher 2 (November? 2017 [I mean they say that it has been a year since last season, but that can be a little more or a little less, depending on other things]
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Jessica Jones 3/ Iron Fist 2 (Tail end 2017, Early 2018)
^ Few things that stick out
*The Fifteen years thing stated earlier
*In IF2 Misty says something about 'Next year's Christmas card' so it's close to Christmas, but after Christmas.
*There are two points of argument regarding JJ3 the Mother's day line and the mention of it being a year. I think the Mother's day line is LESS likely to be wrong and it being a year later is just a round up from like nine months. March to December is about nineish months and December to May on paper is about six months (Also a pretty close round)
*I need a memory refresh, but I know Danny Rand's sabbatical is mentioned, does that have to be when he left with Ward, isn't he gone from Rand for like the entirety of that Season?

So those quick things being said, I think there could be a bit of an overlap with JJ3 and IF2 with Iron Fist stretching out a bit more

Thanks for reading guys, this has just been the latest way I've been looking at it while trying to figure out this side of the timeline.
 

Pro Bot

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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. 5x20: The One Who Will Save Us All is titled The Force of Gravity, which is 5x21.
 

Pro Bot

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Spider-Geddon
After sometime passed in his universe, Peter returned to wearing the blue-and-red costume that Tony Stark originally gave him. Eventually, he joined the ranks of the Spider-Army in order to help them fight against the Inheritors on Earth-616. This struggle ended in Spider-Army's overall success, with the Inheritors defeated and turned into harmless human babies.[6]

Something added to the Marvel wiki that's just really cool.
 
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