Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 2)

[Lebnyx]

Can someone please explain placement reasoning for the following?

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Captain America - The Winter Soldier Chapter 18: "End Credits" (2:15:02 - 2:15:36)

We know is that this scene takes place after the main events of Winter Soldier, but we don't know how long after it it takes place.

 

[Swoopert]

In The Punisher S2E9 roughly 27:30 in, when talking to Dinah Mehdani,

Spoiler

Billy Russo/Jigsaw intimates that his recovery time since the end of S1 is a year, telling Mehdani that she wasted a year of her life watching over him in the hospital.

 

[selfishmisery]

In The Punisher S2E9 roughly 27:30 in, when talking to Dinah Mehdani,

Spoiler

Billy Russo/Jigsaw intimates that his recovery time since the end of S1 is a year, telling Mehdani that she wasted a year of her life watching over him in the hospital.

If we also take into account she also mentioned it having been "months", that still puts in 2017. Though late or 3rd quarter 2017 would be still be close to a year.

My question is, does what happen in Daredevil S3 determine whether Punisher S2 is right before or after it in the timeline? I still haven't seen the episode with Karen Page yet, admittedly.

 

[Pro Bot]

Apparently she mentions Nelson & Murdock. Not really Page, Nelson & Murdock but... haven't seen it myself. If it proves to be after Daredevil S3 but before where we have it we could just move daredevil back. I think it's pretty spot on though.

 

[Pro Bot]

Method Man goes by Johnny Blaze because of Ghost Rider, right? How can he go by that name in this universe (Which he does) when Johnny Blaze is an actual person?

 

[Lebnyx]

Method Man goes by Johnny Blaze because of Ghost Rider, right? How can he go by that name in this universe (Which he does) when Johnny Blaze is an actual person?

For the same reason why Protect Ya Neck is played in The Defenders, even though that song mentions Spider-Man and was released 9 years before Peter was born in the MCU.

 

[Pro Bot]

Still confused. That could be just because the Spider-Man references weren't present in the full song. I guess Johnny Blaze could be another famous person.

 

[Craig]

Ghostface exists in the MCU, and also goes by Iron Man/Tony Starks.

 

[Pro Bot]

But has he been called Iron Man in-universe like Method Man?

 

[Pro Bot]

Someone spotted something in The Punisher S2 which relates to the timeline. https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/d/p/3300297438920754001 May 2018? Hm. I'm not entirely convinced but... yeah. Prop dates can be useful.

 

[selfishmisery]

Someone spotted something in The Punisher S2 which relates to the timeline. https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/d/p/3300297438920754001 May 2018? Hm. I'm not entirely convinced but... yeah. Prop dates can be useful.

It's absolutely not May 2018. That conflicts with the "months" claim from the start of the season.

"So, Episode 7 features a calendar which while a little hard to make out .... The month begins on a Tuesday and features holidays on the 13th and 28th"

Here's said Calendar.
https://66.media.tumblr.com/0d56875a1049b96dc37925887c0d06e2/tumblr_plr6shHcuZ1u7vukeo1_1280.png

But August 2017 does begin on a Tuesday and has 31 days. https://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/?year=2017&country=1

And the red outlined areas match up too.

Not only that:

"Continuing on with The Punisher, and in Episode 9 we get a quick glimpse of a phone saying it's Wednesday the 13"

September 2017 has a Wednesday the 13th.

So if we take into account the mention of it being "months" (but also "a year")

Spoiler

since Russo was hospitalized

, August to September 2017 seems just about right for The Punisher season two.

 

[Pro Bot]

Yeah. Looking at the "proof" for May 2018, it's not really all that much. 100% convinced thats out of the picture. Forgot about that months/year reference. *shrugs*

 

[marioxb]

So about the songs and artist alter egos, we can pretend they were created way after they originally were, as in after the heroes were discovered. Pretty much just like Method Man's Luke Cage song.

Now what about the Most Wanted pilot, is that out there? And if so, does it/ can it fit in the timeline?

 

[Pro Bot]

Nope. Never released.

I'd imagine that Johnny Blaze isn't so open about his... head. I guess it could be him just being a popular daredevil (not that one).

 

[selfishmisery]

Update: Frank was watching OLD Russian hockey matches. It wasn't anything that helps this timeline.

I did extensive research based on the logos and uniforms from each year in RHL Hockey. This match here was between Lokomotive Yaroslavl and Dinamo Minsk in September 18, 2015.
Source - https://www.shutterstock.com/video/clip-11868500-yaroslavl-russia---september-18-2015-khl

So we can take the whole thing with the hockey match on Frank's TV thing out of the equation. The calendar in Episode 7 and the "Wednesday the 13th" date in Episode 9 matter the most.

 

[Pro Bot]

Prob gonna need to check the minimum amount of days it could take place on because of Luke Cage overlap. What about the Karen Page episode though?

Modern setting
August
The Punisher 2x01-2x0? (Presumably before the late luke cage episodes)
Luke Cage 2x01-2x09

September
Luke Cage 2x10-2x13
The Punisher 2x07-2x13

At least 2x07-2x13 are in September.

 

[selfishmisery]

Here's a better look at that Calendar in Episode 7:

The month is completely erased from the calendar...Interesting.

EDIT: Immediately after that shot (

Spoiler

when Russo and his gang storm the storage room

), there's boxes in the background that say "2018". But that's the "Destroy Date" on Business Source storage boxes, so Season 2 is definitely not in 2018. It HAS to be in August-September 2017.

 

[Pro Bot]

Thank god they actually care about the timeline to an extent, unlike Cloak & Dagger.

 

[selfishmisery]

Thank god they actually care about the timeline to an extent, unlike Cloak & Dagger.

Agreed. Now we just need to find out how many days pass during Season 2.

 

[Zpdedoda]

I'm sure we've had instances of dates not lining up with the right real life days before but I can't think of a specific instance off the top of my head

 

[selfishmisery]

I can't find the "Wednesday the 13th" anywhere in Episode 9 anyways...I'm not sure what scene that MCU Wiki user got that form.

 

[Pro Bot]

Yeah. It's just a mistake when they don't. Theres evidence for -3, -2, -1, 1, 2, 3 days off real life but theres more evidence for 0. The dates in the MCU are pretty much spot on with real life. It's just some occasional mistakes and that sucks but what ya gonna do? If it comes to that, then we work around it.

 

[selfishmisery]

According to the guy on the Wiki, there was a calendar app that read "Wed 13" on the phone Frank picks out of the dead guy's pocket. That was the "Wednesday the 13th", but the "Wed" was really blurry...so, it's the 13th mainly.

 

[Pro Bot]

This ain't gonna happen but sign anyway.
https://www.change.org/p/netflix-to...e.control&utm_content=okt_psf_tw_clinks:clink

 

[marioxb]

No matter what anyone says, I still say this has to do with Disney wanting none of their content on Netflix. Personally, I'd rather have them on a service/ channel/ whatever where they can interact with the Avengers. I'm hoping they continue on Disney Plus (or Hulu) same cast and all, PG 13 is just fine with me.

I wonder if there's any chance of the Inhumans story to continue on Agents of SHIELD, much like Agent Carter did.

 

[Pro Bot]

I would love for the Inhuman royal family to return, honestly. Even for just a small cameo. At least Lockjaw. He's true royalty.

I think it's more about Netflix not wanting to support a rival service, since they got cancelled after the Disney+ announcement and it was Netflix's choice. Honestly, i think it's more like Disney advertising Netflix more than it is Disney betraying Netflix.

 

[Pro Bot]

I wonder what the 2091 timeline looks like through the perspective of the Avengers... and Thanos.

 

[Craig]

I would say Thanos still accomplished his mission in that timeline. He would have just rolled up on Vision floating amongst earth rubble. Maybe he sparred the survivors on Earth since WAY more than half of them just died.

 

[Pro Bot]

I doubt Thanos has any control over those who die in the decimation.

 

[Craig]

Probably correct. I guess in addition to Earth getting blown up, some people turned to dust too lol. Perhaps in the chaos, no one really noticed. Or since there was no way to explain what happened, it was just forgotten.