Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 2)

[Pro Bot]

Really? Imagine you've never seen the mcu. You watch agent carter. Then once you reach captain america you already know how its going to end. You say logical yet agent carter is before cap on your viewing order. You could have put agent carter after it and still have the captain america date. That makes no sense anyway you put it. Guardians of the galaxy is in the wrong place. Youve put it as the latest date in the timeline (after credit scenes, not even spoiler ones). You completely ignore agents of shield references to ant-man and captain america: civil war. Sorry man.

Edit: your captain america: the winter soldier placement has spoilers. Its definitively intended to be watched between aos 1x16 and aos 1x17.

 

[Pro Bot]

No its not release order. Its... an order, sure, but its not an order id recommend to a friend as the timeline usually places entire movies somewhere else because of small scenes (after credit scenes) and ends up spoiling something else. The timeline that this thread has doesnt spoil anything. Its a perfectly fine viewing order for the most part.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

As I've stated, and keep stating, this is a LOGICAL viewing order. It does not cater to what people may personally want, or how you personally feel about where things should be watched. It's placed according to order of events. Don't like it? Don't watch it.

 

[Pro Bot]

Its really not very logical. Give me reasons why im wrong. Ive told you why i dont agree with you. Im trying to be polite but i dont think most people would agree with yours.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

I think you have "subjective" and "objective" confused. You are telling me how you personally feel things should be watched. I'm telling you how the chapters fall objectively, factually and without personal bias. You not liking that doesn't change the facts. To quote Ben Shapiro, "Facts don't care about your feelings".

 

[Pro Bot]

Well its a fact that placing captain america: The winter soldier after agents of shield season 1 will spoil the movie, but hey! 30 seconds of that movie is after season 1!

 

[Dallas Kinard]

You are correct. Both things you stated are correct. Your sentiment that it's "wrong", however, is where I disagree.

 

[Pro Bot]

You said it was a viewing order. Guess you weren't telling the truth. You are claiming that yours is right as its "logical" yet you completely ignore logic. You see where I'm going with this? Instead of brushing it off as constructive criticism you respond with "its a LOGICAL viewing order". It really isn't. I never said it was wrong. Youve just placed the items as the lastest it is on the timeline. This is just... full of spoilers. Its not a viewing order.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Ok now you are just getting on my, and I'm sure everyone else's, nerves. I'm not going to entertain you anymore with this pointless conversation. Anyone with two eyes and a brain understands what a chronological viewing order is. As I've stated before, you can disagree all you want, but that won't change fact. Doctor Strange ends in 2017, despite beginning in 2016. Therefore the film is placed in 2017 at the latest events it ends on. That same logic is applied to the rest of the MCU to keep logical consistency when possible.

If you want to continue to be argumentative and pester me, start PMing me with your rhetoric and stop what you are doing because it's extremely annoying.

 

[Pro Bot]

I was going to say the same thing that you said at the beginning. Im sick of it too. But that doctor strange logic? That doesn't make sense. Viewing order and a chronological timeline are two different things. I give up. How about we discuss the actual timeline now? (the one on here)

 

[Dallas Kinard]

"Viewing order and a chronological timeline are two different things." Hence why I name it 'CHRONOLOGICAL Viewing Order. Anyone else would understand that from the title.

 

[Zorkel567]

Well its a fact that placing captain america: The winter soldier after agents of shield season 1 will spoil the movie, but hey! 30 seconds of that movie is after season 1!

Yikes! Captain America: The Winter Solider got placed after Agents of SHIELD? That doesn't make any logical sense. It kills the end storyline of the season, and spoils the entirety on the movie.

 

[Pro Bot]

And... we are still arguing over your "chronological viewing order" *sigh*

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Does anyone on this forum know what the word "logical" means? TWS ends chronologically after the entirety of AOS S1. So logic dictates the film be placed after. Don't like it? Don't watch it that way.

 

[Pro Bot]

Any logical person would watch it between aos 1x16 and 1x17. You are the one who said viewing order. Make up your mind.

Viewing Order = Order that one *should* view.
Chronological Order = Order of Events.

The one on this site is both. Yours is just chronological. 30 seconds does not change the viewing order. It shouldn't even change the chronological order. No one at all should watch cap: tws after aos season 1. You are the one who sounds like you are dictating how you should view the mcu. You are the one who's ignoring plot points.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

OK let's break your 100% subjective statement down point by point since you refuse to accept fact vs reality:

"Any logical person would watch it between aos 1x16 and 1x17. You are the one who said viewing order. Make up your mind."

This is your opinion. Logic actually dictates that the film ends after Season 1. So therefore, logic proves you wrong. And second, I said "Chronological Viewing Order". What part of that title baffles you so much?

"Viewing Order = Order that one *should* view.
Chronological Order = Order of Events."

As defined by you. Two things can be true at once, which is why I'll refer you once again to the actual title of my order. (Hint: Chronological Viewing Order). Maybe if I say it one more time, it'll sink in? I may be being to optimistic there.

"The one on this site is both. Yours is just chronological. 30 seconds does not change the viewing order. It shouldn't even change the chronological order."

The one on the site is 100% chronological order of events broken down by time-stamp. Do you even pay attention? 30 seconds absolutely does change a CHRONOLOGICAL (did I say chronological?) viewing order. I'm almost beginning to think you are just a troll. Hey mods, pay close attention to this guy.

"No one at all should watch cap: tws after aos season 1. You are the one who sounds like you are dictating how you should view the mcu. You are the one who's ignoring plot points."

Literally everything you just said in that statement is false, which is why I'm starting to think you aren't actually up for debate, and instead just want to argue. It is YOUR opinion that "no one should watch TWS after AOS S1" NOT a chronological fact. Get. This. Right. If anyone is reading this and comes to the conclusion that I'm the one dictating how someone "should" view the MCU, they are being intellectually dishonest (which you persist on being). And lastly, no bud, I'm not ignoring anything. As a matter of fact, I'm paying more attention than you are to chronology. You are the one deciding how things ought to be vs. how they actually are. Typical angry, judgmental troll.

 

[Pro Bot]

Angry? Troll? I apologize for coming off that way. I can assure you that is not my intention. But... who's using bold text? If someone was to watch the mcu (not being angry or a troll) do you think they should use your viewing order?

 

[Pro Bot]

You are accusing people of being intellectually dishonest. The reason you come accoss as soneone who tells people how they should watch the mcu is because you think that no one can disagree with you because yours is chronological.

 

[Pro Bot]

I was talking about the simplified "viewing" order on this site.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

If they care about chronology, then yes. It is indeed the most logical way to view it. It'd be like wanting to watch all of the most popular war movies. If you care about order of events, start watching the movies in chronological order. If you don't care, then anything goes. At the end of the day, people are going to watch things countless different ways because everyone has their own opinion on how things "ought to be watched". The general public, which is about 95% of the people watching, are going to watch in release order, or the way they are introduced via Netflix, rentals, ect. Nobody is "forcing" anyone to watch anything a certain way. I'm just presenting a logical, factual, non-biased chronological viewing experience for those who enjoy seeing how things play out from a strictly chronological stand-point. Do I love the fact that TWS ends after the entirety of AOS S1? Not at all. It would be awesome if the film took place entirely between those two crossover episodes, but that's not reality and I can't change logic just because I feel like it, or else the entire purpose is defeated.

 

[Pro Bot]

Ok. If thats the case... sure! Go ahead. Just... remove the "viewing" part.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Why? It's a Chronological Viewing Order. If someone wants to watch the MCU in the order it chronologically occurs in, they can with this order. Why are you so upset about this? Sounds like you can't handle anything that disagrees with the way YOU personally want things to be.

 

[Pro Bot]

"Why? It's a Chronological Viewing Order."
Its misleading. Its a chronological timeline. Not a viewing order.

"If someone wants to watch the MCU in the order it chronologically occurs in, they can with this order."
Yes they could. Thats fine...

"Why are you so upset about this?"
Im not. Im perfectly fine with your timeline.

"Sounds like you can't handle anything that disagrees with the way YOU personally want things to be."
Hey! Now whos the troll who wants an argument! *Sigh* back to this again...

All i asked was that you remove the viewing part. You know what? Just... shut up. I dont want to argue. Clearly you do currently. I could start trying to piss you off but then we are both pissed. Can we discuss the actual timeline? (you know... the thing i suggested comments ago)

 

[Dallas Kinard]

"Its misleading. Its a chronological timeline. Not a viewing order."

No, it's literally not. This site is a chronological timeline. Mine is a simplified chronological viewing order. This is a concept you either are refusing to admit or simply can't understand. I can't make it clearer to you at this point.

"Yes they could. Thats fine..."

Thank you very much for granting me your permission.

"Im not. Im perfectly fine with your timeline."

It's a chronological viewing order. Personally, I don't care if anyone is "fine" with it. It's logic. You don't have to like anything. That doesn't change facts.


"Hey! Now whos the troll who wants an argument! *Sigh* back to this again..."

Someone doesn't know what a troll is. Anyone else want to help this guy?

"All i asked was that you remove the viewing part. You know what? Just... shut up. I dont want to argue. Clearly you do currently. I could start trying to piss you off but then we are both pissed. Can we discuss the actual timeline? (you know... the thing i suggested comments ago)"

I'm not going to remove the viewing part because some angry troll on the internet is butt-hurt about facts. Also, telling someone to shut up when you are losing an argument isn't doing anything to help your case.

 

[Zpdedoda]

I think you're on your own with your view Dallas. The only objective, logical way to watch it is the release order of the films and TV shows. everything else including this thread is purely subjective.

 

[Pro Bot]

Stop being an a**hole. You are clearly doing this to piss me off. Someone tell both of us to shut up so either we dont ague or he continues and looks like a fool.

"Thank you very much for granting me your permission."
Sacasam then? Look, how should i have responded to your comment? Please tell me? I had a completely polite comment and now you are making an argument about it.

"It's a chronological viewing order. Personally, I don't care if anyone is "fine" with it. It's logic. You don't have to like anything. That doesn't change facts."
Too bad. Im fine with it. You cared enough to comment.

"I'm not going to remove the viewing part because some angry troll on the internet is butt-hurt about facts."
I never demanded that you remove it. It was a suggestion.

"Also, telling someone to shut up when you are losing an argument isn't doing anything to help your case."
Id rather lose an argument then look like you right now.

Look, im sure you're a nice enough guy in real life but is this really worth arguing over?

Please. No one wins, no one loses. Just actual mcu timeline talk (the site) ok?

 

[Dallas Kinard]

That's funny, you contradict yourself with your own subjective statement. Release order isn't "objective". It's the way the films came out in real life. I'm talking about in-universe chronology. Something you don't seem to grasp.

 

[Dallas Kinard]

For the sake of my own, and any logical human reading this' sanity, let's agree to disagree and move along swiftly.

 

[Pro Bot]

Thank you.

 

[Pro Bot]

Release order is technically the only official order. Even this timeline isnt "fact" as you like to wave in everyones faces