Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

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found this pretty meh tbh, once again we can only assume the divergent point would need to have happened in the 70s if the public knew of the avengers to the point of making an in-universe cartoon about them; otherwise i guess we can place the start at 2014 with the on your left scene, then the "10 years later" could be 2024-2025 depending on how long the initial gamma war lasted

i wish we would have gotten an explanation for where some other characters were besides the og 6 avengers who died at the start, for example yelena, rhodey, black panther, any cosmic characters like carol or the eternals (i guess we can assume any characters with an origin that occurred later than the winter soldier like spider-man, dr strange, ant-man and wasp were killed as civilians but these other characters should have been established by this point)

also wish they would have delved into the more comic-accurate aspect of the one below all, i know its a lot for a 20 minute episode but i dont really see the, ever exploring that in a mainline film at this point so why not
 
Strong start to the season imo. Biggest gripes are that I wish there was more mech action and I wish the whole episode was animated like Go Avenger: Heroes of the Gamma War

And I just read a review of the season (surprisingly positive) and yall this Howard episode might actually be peak inbound
 
Here is what I have so far in terms of What if S03
(No Spoilers included)

What If...? S03E06 (1872)

What If...? S03E02 (1947?)

What If...? S03E03 (1991) (cut s02 episode)

What If...? S03E04 (2010+?)

What If...? S03E01 (Early 2024)

What If...? S03E05 (2023/2024/2025?)

What If...? S03E07 - S03E08

Was wondering where to put in Watch order for season 3 and kinda rethinking Season 2's placement after Season 1.
 
I expected What If Agatha went to Hollywood to be one of the worst episodes and this might be one of my favorite episodes period bruh

• Classical Hollywood aesthetic with the intro, outro, and her absorbing Tiamat (he just can't catch a break)

• Focuses on 2 Phase 4 characters

• An awesome blend of the magic and cosmic sides of MCU

• Remembering the Eternals exist

• Agatha being Kro but hot

• Seeing Arishem again and even him in action

• It mogs the last one and this is the type of stuff I want out of What If. I thought it was a nice touch that Watcher's narration mirrored the text in the opening of Eternals
 
myusernameyes said:
Did it have any cheesy musical numbers?
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This was my biggest worry but it's a dance sequence rather than singing. Even then I was initially very hesitant and was prepared to check out until it was over but the fight aspect and story developments kept me engaged (not a spoiler bc this was in trailers)
 
Pro Bot said:
I'd probably just place S3 in its entirety at the latest point in the season to keep up with the Watcher.
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I'm personally placing it after Agatha All Along. It feels like we're meant to view these multiversal projects from the TVA/Watcher's POV. Which is how you get D&W around 2026 projects even though it takes place mainly in 2024.
 
BabyBomber said:
This was my biggest worry but it's a dance sequence rather than singing. Even then I was initially very hesitant and was prepared to check out until it was over but the fight aspect and story developments kept me engaged (not a spoiler bc this was in trailers)
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Ah, poo...
 
Rman said:
I'm personally placing it after Agatha All Along. It feels like we're meant to view these multiversal projects from the TVA/Watcher's POV. Which is how you get D&W around 2026 projects even though it takes place mainly in 2024.
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It's 2024 in an alternate universe, obviously the flow of time is different there
Besides, Deadpool only visited the MCU in the year he was in as well and the TVA can go to any point in time
 
So Arishem totally dead? I don't see how a being like him has a variant and might have been the only one in this multiverse.

Imagine if that's how they wrapped up that loose end from Eternals...
 
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Pro Bot said:
I think that was just to show that they're attacking Earth in that universe because Agatha killed him.
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We'll see if that gets answered in the following days. I think the fact that Watcher (MCU) is singular in the multiverse and the Celestials are able to "meet him on his level" so to speak implies that Arishem is singular as well and 100% dead.
 
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Aris...were split across,aspect of the true Arishem.
Arishem was one of the Celestials who rebelled against the Aspirants and First Firmament. They shattered the First Cosmos into the Second Cosmos, the first Multiverse, and later created the Omegas as servitors.

The Celestials were split across the Multiverse. Their counterparts are interconnected aspects of themselves and not separate beings. Thus, the Arishem of Earth-616 is one aspect of the true Arishem.
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We're both right. It's a Darkseid/True Darkseid situation. The Arishem who died, however, is separate from the one from Earth-199999 or Earth-616. Think of it like deleting a document on a file. Yes, that document (Arishem/What If...? 3x02) is gone, but the file (true Arishem) is still active.
 
selfishmisery said:
Celestials entering the same 4th dimensional plane as Watcher at the very end, plus that seemed to imply there is some power vacuum now for the Celestials
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I didn't take that as the other Celestials being in the Nexus with Watcher. I thought it was just the Celestials Ajak warned would be coming pulling up to Earth (the talk of a "sequel" and the credits art having the same Celestials in the same positions but without the Watcher)

I never got the sense that MCU Arishem was intended to be some super-dimensional being on the same level as the Watcher
 
I read some theory not too long ago that X-Men 97 could tell the story of how Earth-199999 "split off" from a branch somewhere adjacent to (comic) Earth-616 to it's own multiverse towards the beginning of the time onwards - involving Immortus' machinations from the original show
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nathaniel_Richards_(Immortus)_(Earth-6311)#cite_ref-73
Maybe that's what Kevin Feige meant by Earth-92131 being "MCU" even though it's clearly not? Telling the backstory of how this "He Who Remains" came about?

(All of this is pre-birth of the MCU, in totality, as in pre-Iron Man 1.)
 
Was doing some digging and found in a, now deleted, Marvel.com page (thx Wayback Machine) that Iron Man/Hulk Heroes United can potentially fit between Avengers and what would become Age of Ultron. https://web.archive.org/web/2016041...k_unite_for_the_holidays_in_new_animated_film IMG_7049.jpeg

Now obviously this isn't canon to the main MCU but it got me curious. Besides LEGO and the GOTG Cartoon what non-Marvel Studios projects can be considered MCU-Adjacent? By that I mean things that treat/are mentioned as having MCU-inspired content/events as part of its continuity
 
BabyBomber said:
Was doing some digging and found in a, now deleted, Marvel.com page (thx Wayback Machine) that Iron Man/Hulk Heroes United can potentially fit between Avengers and what would become Age of Ultron. https://web.archive.org/web/2016041...k_unite_for_the_holidays_in_new_animated_film View attachment 2998

Now obviously this isn't canon to the main MCU but it got me curious. Besides LEGO and the GOTG Cartoon what non-Marvel Studios projects can be considered MCU-Adjacent? By that I mean things that treat/are mentioned as having MCU-inspired content/events as part of its continuity
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Ultimate Spider-Man/Avengers Assemble/Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H. has some MCU elements, mainly design-wise, but also in the presence of MCU-original characters such as Phil Coulson, Leo Fitz and Jemma Summons. The Avengers Assemble/Guardians of the Galaxy/Spider-Man animated universe, naturally, also shares MCU details, though you've noted this already.
 
I wouldn't say that necessarily. They just take a few things here and there. Well, technically all universes diverge from one another if you go back far enough, but that's not the point.
 
selfishmisery said:
I read some theory not too long ago that X-Men 97 could tell the story of how Earth-199999 "split off" from a branch somewhere adjacent to (comic) Earth-616 to it's own multiverse towards the beginning of the time onwards - involving Immortus' machinations from the original show
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nathaniel_Richards_(Immortus)_(Earth-6311)#cite_ref-73
Maybe that's what Kevin Feige meant by Earth-92131 being "MCU" even though it's clearly not? Telling the backstory of how this "He Who Remains" came about?

(All of this is pre-birth of the MCU, in totality, as in pre-Iron Man 1.)
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Here's my guess on the chronology of this:

Immortus/Bender takes back Limbo -> Avengers: Forever (1998-1999) -> Potential X-Men 97 storyline (Immortus interacts with Earth-199999 in 3000 AD?) -> Multiversal War (Earth-199999 variant, "He Who Remains", wins after weaponizing Alioth) -> MCU created as its own separate cluster and its own TVA -> Loki creates the MCU's multiverse
 

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