Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 3)

[iceman109]

The short lady with the accent in Brave New World

 

[Starvel]

Who is Ruth?

The former Black Widow who serves as President Thaddeus Ross's security advisor in BNW

 

[SoyaCS]

The former Black Widow who serves as President Thaddeus Ross's security advisor in BNW

Why would she be controversial?

 

[iceman109]

She's Israeli

 

[Starvel]

She's Israeli

Unfortunately yeah that sums it up. She was born in Israel as was the actress and that's enough to be controversial.

 

[iceman109]

Not going to lie though I do want to see a Ruth/Bucky relationship develop

 

[Starvel]

Not going to lie though I do want to see a Ruth/Bucky relationship develop

I think she could have some great interactiona with other characters if she got a chance to continue and could natural fit in with a few other characters like Bucky as you mentioned or Yelena Belova could be fun.

 

[iceman109]

I really want to see Arabian Knight in the MCU if they did Sabra (Ruth) then they can do Arabian Knight

 

[woodlark_289]

definitely not

this wasnt me hating on her character i quite liked her but i just dont see disney risking any more controversy by having her return

 

[Starvel]

this wasnt me hating on her character i quite liked her but i just dont see disney risking any more controversy by having her return

Yep absolutely. Ruth was a good character, had potential for solid future appearances but with the controversy I highly doubt we'll see her again which is a shame.

 

[iceman109]

There's going to be a million fanfiction stories retconning her appearance

 

[iceman109]

Overall pretty good movie in my opinion

 

[SoyaCS]

I don't get it. What's controversial about an ethnicity?

 

[PKMonsa]

Why would she be controversial?

Because in the comics she's Sabra, a Mossad agent Israeli superheroine

 

[iceman109]

I don't get it. What's controversial about an ethnicity?

Have you heard what's been happening in the Middle East lately?

 

[Starvel]

I don't get it. What's controversial about an ethnicity?

The comic character's history as a Mossad agent paired with all the stuff happening with the Gaza War the past year has given some people cause to hate the character and worse the actress simply for being Israeli.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

She's Israeli

Well, considering she was an adaptation of a highly controversial comic character (Sabra)...

 

[Pro Bot]

I don't get it. What's controversial about an ethnicity?

 

[iceman109]

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Crazy ass/****** up redemption ark

 

[selfishmisery]

Definitely isn't Marvel's intention. Especially because YFNSM Peter was originally going to be Sacred Timeline Peter. Just seems unlikely to me.

I rather they just let the show do its thing and tell its story freely without shenanigans like that muddling everything. Making it the "main" version would just take away most of the freedom and potential it could have

I think he's implying that it and the MCU's Spider-Man history will combine, not that it literally will take place in the MCU after a reset. In any case, I'm not entirely sure there will be a reset. At least an extensive one.

Part of my reasoning is, despite what Marvel Studios said and the fans want, I theorize every other universe will be a.) destroyed forever or b.) merged into the "Sacred Timeline" somehow thus rewriting some things. With some refugees.

Yes, I think they could destroy the Raimiverse or even the X-Men universe (thus erasing Logan despite their promise not to) but bring over important characters as refugees like Tobey's Peter Parker (under a new name in the new world, he won't replace main Peter ofc) and a 15-20 character shortlist of X-Verse characters they wanna keep around.

Marvel will do whatever Marvel wants. I've come to realize that fans be damned if it's Feige's or the Studio's vision.

 

[SoyaCS]

Just finished rewatching Black Widow(2021) and why didn't people like the new Taskmaster? She was terrifying throughout the entire film.

I get it's not a very comic accurate depiction but neither was Thanos.

 

[selfishmisery]

Part of my reasoning is, despite what Marvel Studios said and the fans want, I theorize every other universe will be a.) destroyed forever or b.) merged into the "Sacred Timeline" somehow thus rewriting some things. With some refugees.

Yes, I think they could destroy the Raimiverse or even the X-Men universe (thus erasing Logan despite their promise not to) but bring over important characters as refugees like Tobey's Peter Parker (under a new name in the new world, he won't replace main Peter ofc) and a 15-20 character shortlist of X-Verse characters they wanna keep around.

Marvel will do whatever Marvel wants. I've come to realize that fans be damned if it's Feige's or the Studio's vision.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but with great consequences comes great fandom anger.
And clearly they don't care if we get upset. Unless it's making already existing MCU properties part of canon like the Netflix stuff.

 

[iceman109]

Is it possible that Logan is its own universe instead of being a branch post Secret Wars?

 

[Dallas Kinard]

Here is that a bit of everything video for reference.

 

[SoyaCS]

If I'm wrong I'm wrong, but with great consequences comes great fandom anger.
And clearly they don't care if we get upset. Unless it's making already existing MCU properties part of canon like the Netflix stuff.

I think it's more likely they'll go the Secret Wars 2015 route.

The Sacred Timeline and Fox-Men collide, Battleword happens, The Fantastic Four remake the multiverse, X-Men are now in 616.

 

[Pro Bot]

Crazy ass/****** up redemption ark

When even a monster thinks you're a horrible person, it's bound to lead to some self-reflection I suppose.

 

[iceman109]

Sabra in a nut shell

Death of thousands of people: I sleep
Death of one child: Real ****

 

[myusernameyes]

There's going to be a million fanfiction stories retconning her appearance

 

[myusernameyes]

Just finished rewatching Black Widow(2021) and why didn't people like the new Taskmaster? She was terrifying throughout the entire film.

I get it's not a very comic accurate depiction but neither was Thanos.

1. Woman
2. Barely spoke throughout the entire film due to being mind controlled by her father

 

[SoyaCS]

1. Woman
2. Barely spoke throughout the entire film due to being mind controlled by her father

1. Woman
2. Barely spoke throughout the entire film due to being mind controlled by her father

So basically there's no genuine reason.