Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 4)

[Regsta]

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what if they end up mentioning it as 10005? That would be a but of a plot hole there

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I think they will gone do this. Saying that is the same universe of Deadpool too.

 

[Regsta]

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We can use A Bit of Everything's theory that when Deadpool and Wolverine save the universe, they recreate/regenerate the universe, which causing some changes in the universe, like Mystique is alive, etc.

 

[selfishmisery]

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I think these X-Men are from the Earth/universe that Monica Rambeau ended up in at the end of The Marvels.

"Oh it's just a slightly different X-Men universe, not Earth-10005 17315"

 

[selfishmisery]

Mystique's fate was unknown in the Earth-10005 (OG) timeline. Maybe Doom plucked her from there.

Remember: Wiki can say it's destroyed but there's no evidence for that, especially when Deadpool 2 showed Earth-18315 branched from it.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Earth-18315

 

[woodlark_289]

Spoiler: potential doomsday spoilers

the x-men still have from 2023 until 2028 to have adventures we still don't know about (however the events of logan in 10005 are all subject to change now that the tva is no longer pruning branches)

 

[selfishmisery]

Spoiler: potential doomsday spoilers

the x-men still have from 2023 until 2028 to have adventures we still don't know about (however the events of logan in 10005 are all subject to change now that the tva is no longer pruning branches)

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Yes, obviously. I'm saying Mystique is dead in Dark Phoenix which means it's not the Mystique from Earth-17315/Revised timeline, but that doesn't mean the other ones aren't from E-17315.

 

[woodlark_289]

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Yes, obviously. I'm saying Mystique is dead in Dark Phoenix which means it's not the Mystique from Earth-17315/Revised timeline, but that doesn't mean the other ones aren't from E-17315.

oh true duh lol i literally forgot that happened

 

[myusernameyes]

Okaaaaay they're actually keeping up with the real world again

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Okaaaaay they're actually keeping up with the real world again

When was this changed?

 

[myusernameyes]

The recent Daredevil episode

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

The recent Daredevil episode

Huh, must've missed any reference of that?

 

[Pro Bot]

Charles III reference.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Charles III reference.

No no, I meant when the reference was. I know Charles is King now.

 

[Pro Bot]

That was the reference.

 

[Pro Bot]

It's likely that the X-Men characters will all be introduced together, honestly. I'd like for Mystique to be her Earth-10005 counterpart, but if it's revised timeline pre-Logan... I guess in classic Marvel fashion Earth-17315's Mystique was resurrected off-screen.

 

[Slyonic]

It's likely that the X-Men characters will all be introduced together, honestly. I'd like for Mystique to be her Earth-10005 counterpart, but if it's revised timeline pre-Logan... I guess in classic Marvel fashion Earth-17315's Mystique was resurrected off-screen.

I'm kind of afraid they'll do the Deadpool & Wolverine thing, where they're the same actors but with a (slightly) different history.

To me, that makes no sense, because the emotional pay-off is from these being the same characters we know and love, but I'm unsure if that's what's going to happen

 

[myusernameyes]

It's likely that the X-Men characters will all be introduced together, honestly. I'd like for Mystique to be her Earth-10005 counterpart, but if it's revised timeline pre-Logan... I guess in classic Marvel fashion Earth-17315's Mystique was resurrected off-screen.

I think the casting announcement shows actors in the order of their appearance in the script, despite it not making much sense but still

 

[myusernameyes]

Mystique and Nightcrawler being placed together considering the history they have in the comics may certainly be alluding to that

 

[woodlark_289]

It's likely that the X-Men characters will all be introduced together, honestly. I'd like for Mystique to be her Earth-10005 counterpart, but if it's revised timeline pre-Logan... I guess in classic Marvel fashion Earth-17315's Mystique was resurrected off-screen.

especially considering the lack of cohesion between all of the original fox x-men films as it stands, i really wouldnt mind if they all just "somehow return" lol

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

That was the reference.

No, I'm asking WHEN this was mentioned? Like, which part of the episode? Was it a dialogue or one of those "blink and you miss it easter eggs"?

 

[selfishmisery]

No, I'm asking WHEN this was mentioned? Like, which part of the episode? Was it a dialogue or one of those "blink and you miss it easter eggs"?

Found it. The Thug in the bank vault in DD Born Again ep 5 says "And I'm the bloody King of England" as an insult to Kamala's dad.

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

Found it. The Thug in the bank vault in DD Born Again ep 5 says "And I'm the bloody King of England" as an insult to Kamala's dad.

Ahhh, that was it! Thanks!

 

[Pro Bot]

especially considering the lack of cohesion between all of the original fox x-men films as it stands, i really wouldnt mind if they all just "somehow return" lol

See... here's my take on that.

You're right to an extent, but I honestly feel like the X-Men films have perfectly acceptable continuity. There's, like, five things that are legitimate issues, maybe less, and the rest is just confusion over timelines and actors. "How did Xavier came back to life", "how does Magneto have his powers again", "how are there two Emma Frosts", etc. That's all explicitly shown in the films, directly implied or confirmed BTS. "Oh no, the new actors play the present day characters in 2018" as if Edward Norton's face didn't magically morph into Mark Ruffalo, like give it a break, it's just a gag.

People asking how Mystique is alive in the original film when she died in 1992 legitimately annoys me, considering how if they watched them in release or chronological order it makes perfect sense... although now we might have to ask the same question except for Avengers: Doomsday.

 

[Pro Bot]

There are a few legitimate issues, like double Deadpools or 19 year old prepubescent Jean Gray. It's just that, overall, a lot of the confusion is unnecessary. A lot of people still think Jean died in Dark Phoenix despite the film showing the Phoenix force flying in the sky after she had an ending monologue.

We know when every movie is set. We know which timeline they belong to. Are the timelines really that confusing, Mr. Deadpool?

 

[woodlark_289]

There are a few legitimate issues, like double Deadpools or 19 year old prepubescent Jean Gray. It's just that, overall, a lot of the confusion is unnecessary. A lot of people still think Jean died in Dark Phoenix despite the film showing the Phoenix force flying in the sky after she had an ending monologue.

We know when every movie is set. We know which timeline they belong to. Are the timelines really that confusing, Mr. Deadpool?

yea i was mainly referring to those few things that just dont line up (like charles saying he met magneto when they were teenagers), i see a lot more unnecessary added confusion among a lot of fans tho lol

 

[selfishmisery]

There are a few legitimate issues, like double Deadpools or 19 year old prepubescent Jean Gray. It's just that, overall, a lot of the confusion is unnecessary. A lot of people still think Jean died in Dark Phoenix despite the film showing the Phoenix force flying in the sky after she had an ending monologue.

We know when every movie is set. We know which timeline they belong to. Are the timelines really that confusing, Mr. Deadpool?

Cyclops would also be in High School in 1979 via X-Men Origins: Wolverine, but I guess he could be 14 by that point and skipped a grade at some point.

 

[selfishmisery]

yea i was mainly referring to those few things that just dont line up (like charles saying he met magneto when they were teenagers), i see a lot more unnecessary added confusion among a lot of fans tho lol

There's a theory that Charles might have been misremembering his past as an early sign of dementia.

 

[Regsta]

MCU wiki posted their timeline dates about 1x1-1x4 of Daredevil: Born Again, what do you think?

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November 20, 2025: Foggy death.

October 16, 2026: Matt and Fisk prepare for their day, Fisk interrupts Vanessa's meeting, first BB, Kirsten checks on Matt.

October 17, 2026: Dex's sentencing, Matt and Karen argue, Fisk declares his candidacy.

October 27, 2026: Daniel introduces himself, Kirsten reminds Matt about Heather, Matt listens to opinions on Fisk, Heather "meeting, Matt scolds Kirsten about date, Cherry reports his findings on Fisk, second BB. Matt listens to mayoral debate.

October 29, 2026: Matt and Fisk reunion, diner.

November 8, 2026: Matt and Heather date, Fisk wins election, Fisk knows about Adam, Fisk's acceptance speech, Matt and Heather first kiss.

December 31, 2026: New Years Eve speech, Hector's arrest.

January 8, 2027: Third BB, Fiorello La Guardia, Matt meets Hector, pothole, Matt convinces Kirsten of Hector, Matt and Kirsten questioned about taking Hector's case, Hector's arraignment.

January 11, 2027: BB meets Fisk.

January 14, 2027: Buck approaches Heather.

January 15, 2027: Shanahan's funeral.

January 17, 2027: Kirsten talks to Soledad, Matt and Heather vacation fantasy.

January 18, 2027: Hector admits to being White Tiger.

January 19, 2027: Fisk threatens Gallo, White Tiger information suppressed.

January 20, 2027: Cherry suspects Hector case is personal, Matt stands outside a church, Matt follows Powell, Heater meets the Fisks, rescue of Nicky.

January 21, 2027: Coquis, Red Hook murders.

January 22, 2027: Fourth BB, Sheila tells Fisk about Red Hook murders.

January 23, 2027: Matt and Powell in the bathroom, Cherry checks on Nicky, Powell testifies, Cherry gets Nicky, Nicky testifies, Buck confronts the Five Families, Matt decides to put Hector on the stand, Vanessa thinks Fisk is punishing her for Adam.

January 25, 2027: Matt outs White Tiger, Matt encourages Hector to stop.

January 28, 2027: White Tiger saves testimonies.

January 29, 2027: Closing statements.

January 31, 2027: Matt alone in courtroom.

February 1, 2027: Hector found not guilty, Fisk calls BB in, Matt mentions Foggy to Heather, Fisk tells BB that Hector being free means he failed, Hector killed.

February 6, 2027: Angela at morgue.

February 7, 2027: Muse with a victim.

February 8, 2027: Daniel leaves BB, Leroy arrested, Kirsten tells Matt about Leroy, Heather asks Fisks about affair, Fifth BB, Matt meets Leroy, Matt negotiates Leroy to 10 days, Powell denies killing Hector, Sheila convinces Fisk to do Red Hook the right way, Leroy opens up about his past, middle school, Latvian cultural center, Daniel confesses to leak, Matt finds casing, Frank, Vanessa asks if she should feel safe, Matt practices billy club, Fisk visits Adam, Muse with other victim.

 

[selfishmisery]

Random take: The Evolution Saga sounds like a better name for the 3rd Saga, rather than "The Mutant Saga".

 

[myusernameyes]

i see what you did there
if you even intended to do it