Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 5)

Just finished Eyes of Wakanda and my only complaint is that it's so short. I'd rate it higher than X-Men 97 if it was the same length

• Watcher cameo in episode 4 keeping up the trend of him being Marvel Animation's Stan Lee
• Good lord Jorani (no contradiction to Netflix lore btw)
• Episode 4 using time travel to ensure that Killmonger eventually finds the axe in the museum is an amazing tie-in
• It was cool seeing how the story of Achilles played out in the MCU
• Director Noni keeping up the trend of intelligence agency leaders having a cool eye-patch

They're 2 for 2 on animation this year, so far. Praying that Marvel Zombies keeps it up
 
Has to be, chronologically, the first branched timeline ever for the MCU, right?
Since this is history as it played out before even Iron Man, and looooong before AoS or Loki.
 
Just a reminder: I don't do timestamps for "memory" scenes, with the only exception being the first Captain Marvel film due to how it's presented.
 
Slyonic said:
I'm not sure if I'm in the minority, but I don't feel like we should put anything other than the main entries (movies and shows) of legacy universes in the simplified order. It's getting kind of cluttered that way.
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I'd love to trim the TV Spots and TikToks from the viewing order.

Heart for yes, Angry for no
 
selfishmisery said:
Ehhhh disagree

TikToks and TV Spots are barely a minute. "Video games" and comics hold more objective and lengthier material.
By video games what do you mean?
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X-Men has the official game as an entry.

(We're still talking about the legacy universes, right?)
 
So I just watched Fantastic Four. Was it confirmed that it actually takes place in the 60s, or just a "60s-like present day"? If so, do we know if time travel brings them into 616, or does their 60s = "our" present day?
 
marioxb said:
So I just watched Fantastic Four. Was it confirmed that it actually takes place in the 60s, or just a "60s-like present day"?
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the copyright date on the news broadcasts and the car registration stickers indicate a 1964 date for a majority of the movie
marioxb said:
If so, do we know if time travel brings them into 616, or does their 60s = "our" present day?
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selfishmisery said:
Has to be, chronologically, the first branched timeline ever for the MCU, right?
Since this is history as it played out before even Iron Man, and looooong before AoS or Loki.
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If I'm understanding you correctly, I don't think it's the first branched timeline chronologically. In the Party Thor timeline, Odin returned Loki in the 960's and Episode 4 was in the 1800's
 
BabyBomber said:
If I'm understanding you correctly, I don't think it's the first branched timeline chronologically. In the Party Thor timeline, Odin returned Loki in the 960's and Episode 4 was in the 1800's
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All of What If is post-Loki because they explicitedly stated that the TVA pruned ALL timelines that are not the main one.

I assume this includes any pre-Endgame branches like AoS's alt timelines.
 
selfishmisery said:
All of What If is post-Loki because they explicitedly stated that the TVA pruned ALL timelines that are not the main one.

I assume this includes any pre-Endgame branches like AoS's alt timelines.
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Aren't there multiple universes that make up the Sacred Timeline that can freely exist because they don't lead to a variant of He Who Remains? The TVA only intervenes when one of those universes branch too much and risk another version of him? https://thedirect.com/article/loki-sacred-timeline-confusion-finale#

"Okay, The best I can explain it is our approach with time travel was the philosophy basically that time is always happening. So there are infinite instances of time always occurring at once. So you and I are having this conversation right now. There's another instance of us having this conversation 10 seconds ago. There's another instance of time of us having this conversation 10 seconds in the future. Generally, those three instances — you could literally say they're all different universes in a way different timelines — are all the same. There are minute little fluctuations in each instance of time. So in you and I's conversation, five times out of ten, I pick up and I say, 'Hello.' And four times out of ten, I say, 'Hey, nice to meet you.' And then maybe one time out of ten, I'd say, 'Hey man, f— you. I don't want to do this interview.'

And that's just how time works. There's always like different permutations and instances happening. The TVA has their own barometer, their own gauge of what constitutes a deviation from the baseline, the way it's supposed to go. The way it went that produced He Who Remains. That is their baseline. And so they are constantly calculating, 'Okay, we see how time has always...' If you zoomed in on the timeline, it wouldn't necessarily look like a straight line. It might look like almost the intertwined strands of a rope fluctuating and spiking here and there."

If the Horde squad wiped humanity then there couldn't be a variant of He Who Remains
 
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BabyBomber said:
Aren't there multiple universes that make up the Sacred Timeline that can freely exist because they don't lead to a variant of He Who Remains? The TVA only intervenes when one of those universes branch too much and risk another version of him? https://thedirect.com/article/loki-sacred-timeline-confusion-finale#

"Okay, The best I can explain it is our approach with time travel was the philosophy basically that time is always happening. So there are infinite instances of time always occurring at once. So you and I are having this conversation right now. There's another instance of us having this conversation 10 seconds ago. There's another instance of time of us having this conversation 10 seconds in the future. Generally, those three instances — you could literally say they're all different universes in a way different timelines — are all the same. There are minute little fluctuations in each instance of time. So in you and I's conversation, five times out of ten, I pick up and I say, 'Hello.' And four times out of ten, I say, 'Hey, nice to meet you.' And then maybe one time out of ten, I'd say, 'Hey man, f— you. I don't want to do this interview.'

And that's just how time works. There's always like different permutations and instances happening. The TVA has their own barometer, their own gauge of what constitutes a deviation from the baseline, the way it's supposed to go. The way it went that produced He Who Remains. That is their baseline. And so they are constantly calculating, 'Okay, we see how time has always...' If you zoomed in on the timeline, it wouldn't necessarily look like a straight line. It might look like almost the intertwined strands of a rope fluctuating and spiking here and there."

If the Horde squad wiped humanity then there couldn't be a variant of He Who Remains
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That Horde is implied to be out of the picture anyways by the end of ep 4 so its fair to say the TVA probably watched it play out like with Thanos
 
Pro Bot said:
If you're talking about including non-MCU stuff, yeah. Otherwise, we'll be arguing over what counts enough to be included.
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I meant in their entirety. Nah, I think if we're gonna argue over legacy universes in the viewing order, we either include all of the ones that have crossed over, with none getting priority over others and everything in that universe being added, or we include none of it and only have MCU material added.
 
Pro Bot said:
I meant in their entirety. Nah, I think if we're gonna argue over legacy universes in the viewing order, we either include all of the ones that have crossed over, with none getting priority over others and everything in that universe being added, or we include none of it and only have MCU material added.
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I'd say we should have everything that's confirmed to be connected to the MCU
 
Slyonic said:
I'm not sure if I'm in the minority, but I don't feel like we should put anything other than the main entries (movies and shows) of legacy universes in the simplified order. It's getting kind of cluttered that way.
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I agree.
selfishmisery said:
I'd love to trim the TV Spots and TikToks from the viewing order.

Heart for yes, Angry for no
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I agree as well.
 
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