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DC Comics Multiverse Map. It mixes some Earths from the DC Live-Action Multiverse. There's some overlap for sure apparently.

Earth-789 - The Superman and Batman film series are the same universe post-crisis.

Pre-Crisis
Earth-96 - Superman Returns
Earth-89 - Batman I-IV, Catwoman

Post-Crisis
Earth-96 - Superman Returns
Earth-789 - Superman I-IV, Supergirl, Batman I-II, The Flash

That, or post-crisis Earth-96 is known as Earth-789 in the comic multiverse listing.
what is this from?
 
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DC Comics Multiverse Map. It mixes some Earths from the DC Live-Action Multiverse. There's some overlap for sure apparently.

Earth-789 - The Superman and Batman film series are the same universe post-crisis.

Pre-Crisis
Earth-96 - Superman Returns
Earth-89 - Batman I-IV, Catwoman

Post-Crisis
Earth-96 - Superman Returns
Earth-789 - Superman I-IV, Supergirl, Batman I-II, The Flash

That, or post-crisis Earth-96 is known as Earth-789 in the comic multiverse listing.
I would take this as maybe comic multiverse counterparts. Similar history but not canon to the live-action multiverse.
 
Dark Crisis: Big Bang was said to continue the continuity established in Batman '89 (comic). It apparently confirms that Superman '78 (comic) is the same universe, thus confirming that Batman (1989-1992) and Superman (1978-1987) are the same universe.

So, regardless, these films do share the same universe in at least one official timeline.
 
Dark Crisis: Big Bang was said to continue the continuity established in Batman '89 (comic). It apparently confirms that Superman '78 (comic) is the same universe, thus confirming that Batman (1989-1992) and Superman (1978-1987) are the same universe.

So, regardless, these films do share the same universe in at least one official timeline.
Versions of these movies happened in the comic multiverse, but the comics didn't happen in the live-action multiverse is what I'm saying.
 
DC is canonically a multiverse of multiverses in the comics. Dark Crisis actually ties into that. Who's to say that "Earth-789" isn't actually from the live-action multiverse, let's say Post-Crisis Earth-96, but the barriers have been weakened by the events of the series? Barry from the comics just decided to designated it as Earth-789. That seems more logical to me than, say, they intended for them to be alternate versions of the Burton/Donner film universes, especially since those comics are direct sequels to their film franchises. That's my take.

Bruce Wayne's appearance in Superman '78 actually support this due to the timeline and similar appearance to Keaton. Batman '89 references the events of Superman '78 as well, but in a dream sequence.
 
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DC is canonically a multiverse of multiverses in the comics. Dark Crisis actually ties into that. Who's to say that "Earth-789" isn't actually from the live-action multiverse, let's say Post-Crisis Earth-96, but the barriers have been weakened by the events of the series? Barry from the comics just decided to designated it as Earth-789. That seems more logical to me than, say, they intended for them to be alternate versions of the Burton/Donner film universes, especially since those comics are direct sequels to their film franchises. That's my take.

Bruce Wayne's appearance in Superman '78 actually support this due to the timeline and similar appearance to Keaton. Batman '89 references the events of Superman '78 as well, but in a dream sequence.
"Sometimes the simplest conclusion is the most correct."
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Readers can check out the entire Barry Allen Multiverse field guide in Dark Crisis: Big Bang, or below. And study it real close, because something in it will pay off in the coming weeks or months…" at least according to Waid.

"There's one big hint about something that actually doesn't involve me or Dan, that came from editorial as a suggestion," he tells DC readers via Newsarama. "I won't go into detail, but I think if you read that list carefully, you'll see a hint toward something that must be in our near future."

Sounds like they might have been teasing a crossover between Batman '89 and Superman '78 as a comic book to me, but that's just speculation. Superman '78 basically referenced Keaton's Batman already. In the context of these comics, they are the same universe. Whether The Flash fits with that is another question, but yeah. I got to include an Earth-789 timeline of course.

Batman/Superman Anthology - Timeline
Earth-89 - Batman I-II, The Flash
Earth-96 - Superman Returns
Earth-97 - Batman I-IV, Catwoman
Earth-789 - Superman I-IV, Supergirl, Batman I-II

Now, personally I'm putting it on Earth-89 but that's just my opinion and I will separate it if The Flash contradicts it. I think it's telling how both Earth-66 and Earth-789, the live-action realities, were visited on the same page.
 
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Might bump Titans season 3 and 4 to 2021.

I definitely see the "2021" on Jason Todd's grave in 1080p on my Mac.
 
Might bump Titans season 3 and 4 to 2021.

I definitely see the "2021" on Jason Todd's grave in 1080p on my Mac.
BTW if Raven's scenes in the "Souls" episode span over a year, I need to figure out where the gaps are.

Weird how Donna was on that Purgatory train for two years lmao.
 
A friend of mine pointed out that the building in the background that's as big as Wayne Tower could be Barbara's building. "In three months, he won't have the tallest building in Gotham anymore."

It actually makes more sense than it should, lol.
 
A friend of mine pointed out that the building in the background that's as big as Wayne Tower could be Barbara's building. "In three months, he won't have the tallest building in Gotham anymore."

It actually makes more sense than it should, lol.
I guess Wayne Tower got a massive redesign between "2002" and...whenever GK takes place (mid-2010s?)
 
BTW the writers alluded to a "big surprise actor" appearing in episode 11 of Gotham Knights, and it's someone Nataile Abrams looked up to in High School (which for her would be early-2000s).

Reaching to the Moon here, but what if - star of the popular WB show The O.C. (2002):
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If this does end up in Gotham/Pennyworth's very standalone 'bubble continuity', I'm very curious how fans will react. I still think people aren't giving GK a fair chance tbh. I've seen nothing but praise from cast, crew and extras who've worked on it.

But hey, these same detractors/zoomers love stoner BS like Rick & Morty so lmao.
 
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Would be interesting fitting the Pennyworth comic in if that happens. Two-Face is mentioned in the comic, yet Bruce is alive.

Perhaps that particular thought bubble is retconed, lol. Or maybe there's lots of people running around calling themselves Two-Face. You never know, lol! Also the whole "Harvey had surgery" thing is possible. This, of course, would show his second descent into villainy.

Eh, it'd be worked around either way.
 
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Tell me I'm wrong... Tell me that isn't Sean Pertwee isn't at Bruce Wayne's funeral.

And if David Ramsey really said that the CW are making a Superverse with Superman & Lois, Gotham Knights and Justice U, then yeah. That's quite expansive. It would even explain why Renee Montoya looks the same in Batwoman, because Earth-S&L and Earth-Prime have many identical doppelgängers.
 

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Tell me I'm wrong... Tell me that isn't Sean Pertwee isn't at Bruce Wayne's funeral.

And if David Ramsey really said that the CW are making a Superverse with Superman & Lois, Gotham Knights and Justice U, then yeah. That's quite expansive. It would even explain why Renee Montoya looks the same in Batwoman, because Earth-S&L and Earth-Prime have many identical doppelgängers.
I have some thoughts on the whole "Superverse" buzz but I will wait until we get farther into S&L s3.
 
If this does end up in Gotham/Pennyworth's very standalone 'bubble continuity', I'm very curious how fans will react. I still think people aren't giving GK a fair chance tbh. I've seen nothing but praise from cast, crew and extras who've worked on it.

But hey, these same detractors/zoomers love stoner BS like Rick & Morty so lmao.
I think the trailer wasn't as good as the new teaser tbh. Also, I think there's an association with the other CW shows, so they probably hate it for that as well. You'd think they'd have learned by now that not all CW shows automatically suck, but you know what people are like.

I think if it does end up being part of Gotham canon, I imagine that Bruce's death would probably feel worse for some fans. They might even be angry that this "tainted" Gotham. I do think they'd change their tune if they started utilising the Gotham cast though. Even if it ends up not being in Gotham continuity somehow, it looks like it's taking inspiration - that city shot is not a coincidence. I considered that "Alfred" might be Harvey because the clothing matches, but then the hair is too short and the lighting surely wouldn't look gray. His features match perfectly. It's just... hard to believe even then. I have to doubt it even if everything points to it being him. Also, the Court of Owls seem to be involved based on that Talon, so either a new continuity or the highest surviving rank took over leadership.

Looking at the writers' twitter, they're clearly very passionate about this show. I think that it genuinely looks better than people give it credit for, but I understand why some are frustrated by it. They're probably sick of the "this hero is dead/missing" trope.

Misha Collins as Two-Face is good enough for me.
 
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I think the trailer wasn't as good as the new teaser tbh. Also, I think there's an association with the other CW shows, so they probably hate it for that as well. You'd think they'd have learned by now that not all CW shows automatically suck, but you know what people are like.

I think if it does end up being part of Gotham canon, I imagine that Bruce's death would probably feel worse for some fans. They might even be angry that this "tainted" Gotham. I do think they'd change their tune if they started utilising the Gotham cast though. Even if it ends up not being in Gotham continuity somehow, it looks like it's taking inspiration - that city shot is not a coincidence. I considered that "Alfred" might be Harvey because the clothing matches, but then the hair is too short and the lighting surely wouldn't look gray. His features match perfectly. It's just... hard to believe even then. I have to doubt it even if everything points to it being him. Also, the Court of Owls seem to be involved based on that Talon, so either a new continuity or the highest surviving rank took over leadership.

Looking at the writers' twitter, they're clearly very passionate about this show. I think that it genuinely looks better than people give it credit for, but I understand why some are frustrated by it. They're probably sick of the "this hero is dead/missing" trope.

Misha Collins as Two-Face is good enough for me.

Some castings are behind held very close to the vest, btw.
 

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