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https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Wolverine:_Judgment_Night_Vol_1_1That's actually the title.
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The back of the comic/an alternate cover? Fair enough I guess. I'll call it Shi/Wolverine.
Like "The Punisher Meets Archie" having a variant with "Archie Meets the Punisher" as title?
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So thanks to the Transformers ongoing of 2009 we know that Megs' invasione of earth started in March or May 2008 (I don't Remember exactly when, tho you can find It in the Witwicky centric issue), and knowing that the occupation lasted for 1 year ending in 2009, I Guess that The 2008 crossovers happens before AHM and the 2009 ones After AHM, right?
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Ah, in that case, the Avengers probably DID survive All Hail Megatron.
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I Always thought that they restreated to Europe. Megs never got to the EU, tho he defeated the USA in 2-3 weeks, then he attacked Russia and conquered It, then he couldn't conquer the EU cos Starscream started his schemes against him like usual and then the Autobots returned and OP dealed with them.
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We can just say that the Justice League was off-world.
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So i Guess this makes It the Transformers shared universe.
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The Marvel, DC, Transformers, WildStorm, G.I. Joe, Archie, Image comics, Dynamite, Top Cow, Tutenstein and Attack on Titan shared universe. How crowded Secret Wars (1984) must have been in this reality.
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There's Also Mask, Cluedo, jam, rom, the micronauts, visionaries and more that probably I'm forgetting
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I had the exact same thought. I currently have three ways to see it, although I initially thought they could all be included after Batman & Robin.
1. Steel has a couple of mentions of Superman and references to his existence and Batman & Robin, which makes it impossible for it to be the Bale and Routh version since this film takes place in 1997.
2. Catwoman wouldn't be a problem, but there's a direct connection to Batman Returns, and in TDKR, the Nolanverse introduces its Catwoman.
3. Constantine has a mention of Robin. If we take this idea to a closer potential connection, it would be with Earth-89 and the Batman tetralogy. In the TDK Trilogy, there wasn't a Robin until TDKR, and there's no way TDKR takes place in 2004-2005.
4. Batman Begins has no references, only a pair of Batman pajama pants hanging in a scene that could suggest there was Batman merch at this point during its first year. 5 V for Vendetta, there's nothing.
6 Superman Returns has three things, a mention of Gotham (the only potential Gotham that had been shown was in Begins), a mention of the Joker who had already been introduced by this point, and Jason's pajamas being Aquaman's, which could suggest that he exists. This is Earth-96, where similar events to Superman I-IV and Supergirl seem to have occurred.
7 TDK, Metropolis Galaxy TV, probably a subtle Easter egg, and the Spider-Man 3 poster, implying that both the first and second happened. In the Raimi trilogy, there are mentions of Shazam and Superman. In that Marvel universe, it's fiction, and DC Comics doesn't exist. According to Nolan himself, there are no comic books (from DC), which could indirectly make that mention of Superman an implication that he exists.
8. Watchmen, an alternate universe where DC Comics exists and there are Batman comics, as you can see, can't coexist with the rest.
9. Jonah Hex, no connections or problems adding him.
10. Green Lantern, the mention of it being his first alien contact seems to make Brandon Routh impossible, is also on Earth-12.
11. TDKR, nothing, although some people swore they read a newspaper in the Batcave scene with a headline about a man flying, referencing Superman, but I personally couldn't find anything.
12. The Losers, imprint so doesn't count or matter.
So, combining the ones that fit best and have the fewest contradictions, it seems the best thing that could come out is to merge TDK Trilogy and Jonah Hex with Earth-96.
Or Jonah Hex with Earth-12.
but for some stupid reason here they believe that Earth-96 is the same as Earth-789 when they are different in different multiverses.
1. Steel has a couple of mentions of Superman and references to his existence and Batman & Robin, which makes it impossible for it to be the Bale and Routh version since this film takes place in 1997.
2. Catwoman wouldn't be a problem, but there's a direct connection to Batman Returns, and in TDKR, the Nolanverse introduces its Catwoman.
3. Constantine has a mention of Robin. If we take this idea to a closer potential connection, it would be with Earth-89 and the Batman tetralogy. In the TDK Trilogy, there wasn't a Robin until TDKR, and there's no way TDKR takes place in 2004-2005.
4. Batman Begins has no references, only a pair of Batman pajama pants hanging in a scene that could suggest there was Batman merch at this point during its first year. 5 V for Vendetta, there's nothing.
6 Superman Returns has three things, a mention of Gotham (the only potential Gotham that had been shown was in Begins), a mention of the Joker who had already been introduced by this point, and Jason's pajamas being Aquaman's, which could suggest that he exists. This is Earth-96, where similar events to Superman I-IV and Supergirl seem to have occurred.
7 TDK, Metropolis Galaxy TV, probably a subtle Easter egg, and the Spider-Man 3 poster, implying that both the first and second happened. In the Raimi trilogy, there are mentions of Shazam and Superman. In that Marvel universe, it's fiction, and DC Comics doesn't exist. According to Nolan himself, there are no comic books (from DC), which could indirectly make that mention of Superman an implication that he exists.
8. Watchmen, an alternate universe where DC Comics exists and there are Batman comics, as you can see, can't coexist with the rest.
9. Jonah Hex, no connections or problems adding him.
10. Green Lantern, the mention of it being his first alien contact seems to make Brandon Routh impossible, is also on Earth-12.
11. TDKR, nothing, although some people swore they read a newspaper in the Batcave scene with a headline about a man flying, referencing Superman, but I personally couldn't find anything.
12. The Losers, imprint so doesn't count or matter.
So, combining the ones that fit best and have the fewest contradictions, it seems the best thing that could come out is to merge TDK Trilogy and Jonah Hex with Earth-96.
Or Jonah Hex with Earth-12.
but for some stupid reason here they believe that Earth-96 is the same as Earth-789 when they are different in different multiverses.
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I have already mentioned that serveral realities in Marvel and DC exist in multiple multiverses at once. Since this is absolutely possible, why is it hard to accept when it happens to those movies? I doubt they intended for there to be more than one of each universe.
Earth-7642, Earth-3839, the Amalgam universe, the Transformers Marvel Universes (not talking about IDW), they all exist in more than one multiverse while only being a single universe.
It makes far more sense than combining a bunch of unconnected movies with no references to each other honestly.
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Do I have to draw a diagram of it to make it make sense? XD
Are you doing a Sherlock Holmes timeline?
What do people think about the above sequence?
According to 'The History of the Marvel Universe' as narrated by a dying Galactus at the death of the universe, the sequence above is the future of the Marvel Universe. Since this book is meant to be the definitice history of the Marvel Universe, this might actually be the actual future of 616. The sequence above merges elements from various disparate alternate futures. The events of the sequence above is vague enough, it would be hard for future 616 comics to condradict it, especially since the Marvel universe almost always goes back to the status quo and the regular 616 status quo could easily lead to the above stuff.
For some reason, Marvel Wiki lists the above sequence as showing multiple different timelines (Earth-811, 928 etc.) instead of just one. I don't understand why, since Galactus clearly talks about the some version of DOFP leading to Deathlok leading to 2099 leading to Machine Man 2020 miniseries leading to Killraven leading to Maestro leading to future Guardians leading to Kang leading to a version of the Apocalypse-ruled future baby Cable was sent to. Perhaps the Wiki thinks so because Galactus says his memory is hazy, and thus the editors concluded that Galactus must be mixing up the events of different timelines in his memory? I don't see anything in the dialogue indicating he is mixing things up, just that he doesn't remember every detail, which must have been added bu the writer to keep things vague so they don't get condradicted by future 616 comics.
IMO, the above sequence is indeed the actual future of 616.
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Has anyone done a viewing order for the pre-DC Animated Movie Universe (the original and Tomorrowverse) movies?
Why is Everything in One year ??? Where the Movie fits ??
Why Homer is yellow And Peter Griffin is not o tought that everyone in the Simpsons World are yellow or Brown
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Because art style I guess. Famous figures change skin colours between the shows too.
And why you Said that Everything is in One year?
Because Lisa is always 8 years old and Bart 10. And they always are in the same grade even if they have multiple episodes were they are at the last day of school.
Where the Movie fits?
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Not to mention that flashbacks and flashforwards always shift from the present day rather than backwards from the start of the show.
