Ultimate Comics Avengers (Discussion & Spoilers)

the watcher

Well-Known Member
Or The Skull hates his dad, knows he'll show up at some point and wants to destroy everyone and everything right in front of him. You know for spite.
 

ProjectX2

Don't expect me to take you with me when I go to s
The fight scene was done better in Millar's Authority run with the evil Doctor.

I liked most of the issue though. I definitely think the next arc is going to be a lot better by default - Yu's drawing it and it's going to be coming out every two weeks.
 

Bass

Nexus of the World
What a load of nonsense. The dialogue, in particular, was atrocious. "You think you can defeat me? I am a god! I can do anything! Look! Look as I talk about someone you loved who died! Look! Oh, I'm dead. But, all I wanted was a happy memory. That's why I spent so long killing everyone and intentionally being cruel in a cartoonish way."

Oh. And what happened to the Cube at the end? WHO HAS IT?!

Ugh.
 

Ice

Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
What a load of nonsense. The dialogue, in particular, was atrocious. "You think you can defeat me? I am a god! I can do anything! Look! Look as I talk about someone you loved who died! Look! Oh, I'm dead. But, all I wanted was a happy memory. That's why I spent so long killing everyone and intentionally being cruel in a cartoonish way."

Oh. And what happened to the Cube at the end? WHO HAS IT?!

Ugh.
Yeah, as I was reading it, the dialogue was definitely bothering me. And seriously: the line, "Like taking candy from a baby." needs to be retired forever. It's an old cliche/cheesy line that just doesn't work anymore. As to Red Skull's motive: It seemed to cheapen the character. It just didn't seem to fit to go from psychopath killer to just "I wanted my mommy and daddy!"

The only other thing that bothered me, though very minor, is him "coming out of retirement". To have never been mentioned before by any hero or villain, who really knew, "ZOMG! The Red Skull!" It kind of seems like when Vanilla Ice came out with his first song going, "I'm back." You were never here to come back in the first place!

Anyways, the ending was definitely awesome. I loved that Fury was the one (or so it seems) to have gotten the Red Skull to do all this just to get a Black Ops team so eventually he'll weasel back up to his old job. Awesome.
 

Captain Canuck

The poster formerly known as captaincanuck65
wow. I'm so glad this arc is over and i can drop it.

It was so boring. And just poorly written.

I'm done with Ultimate Avengers.
 

selfproclaimed

Well-Known Member
So Cap crashes the jet, but then he teleports it into the Red Skull? Is that what happened?


not so unlike in ultimates vol 1 when cap crashes the jet into herr kleiser. except that this had teleportation. and the hulk didn't eat anybody....kind of a let down really.
 

the watcher

Well-Known Member
See a preview of vol. 2 #1 here: http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=4966&disp=table

Ok, the last story wasn't millar's greatest. And this preview is just
the Punisher shooting people
. But I got to say I love this variant cover.

prv4966_pg1.jpg
 

Zombipanda

My Boom-Boom's mostly gay
I love how "Everybody acts like a dickhead" seems to be Millar's understanding of writing nuanced characters.

Proj said:

CHOOMF! indeed



This just in! Following in the footsteps of All-Star Batman changing its name to The Boy Wonder, Ultimate Comics Avengers is now being retitled What If: Garth Ennis Had Zero Talent.
 
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Ice

Teh Sexy Monkey Queen
Also, what did Fury mean when he mentioned that Greg Stark was the one who "had broken" James Rhodes?
It is possible that he means changing his attitude from when he was younger. Wasn't Rhodes more calm or something during U.I.M.? I don't remember him acting the way he did here. It could be that.
 

E

Moderator
Excelsior Club
It is possible that he means changing his attitude from when he was younger. Wasn't Rhodes more calm or something during U.I.M.? I don't remember him acting the way he did here. It could be that.

UIM? What's that? Ultimate Iron Man? What are you talking about? That never happened.

NEVER. HAPPENED.
 

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