Now that Ultimatum is over and we agree it was a bad storyline, do you think Bendis and Millar are using the fall out from Ultimatum to make good stories?
No, but I can't really blame them. They have nothing to work with. There was a big catastrophe, and no lessons were learned; nothing was established other than a bunch of people died.
At least with Secret Invasion, for example, the fall out is that a major super villain is basically in charge of the world. I'm not saying it's a great story, but at least there was a conclusion and something to build off of (which they have). But with Ultimatum...nothing.
Eh. You're saying to tell a good story you need a lead from another writer? I don't know, man. I don't buy that. You're right when you say Loeb didn't give much for Millar and Bendis to work with, but I see that more as an indictment. "A disaster happened" but it's fairly ambiguous and easy to look at in the past without getting mucked up in the details. Millar and Bendis have been left with sole control of the universe (mostly) and they have the whole sandbox to play with. They don't have to worry about stepping on the toes of any other writers. Still, the stories they're telling seem to be mediocre at worst, average at best. They're standard superhero stories which, granted, look like diamonds next to the **** Loeb cranked out, but still don't even compare to much of the 616 Marvel is publishing. We're at a point where Iron Man is more interesting than Ultimate Iron Man, Captain America (both of them) is more interesting than Ultimate Captain America, Hawkeye is doing more interesting things than Ultimate Hawkeye (although, maybe he's still not as interesting), Nick Fury is more interesting than Ultimate Nick Fury, Spider-Man is more interesting than Ultimate Spider-Man...
I feel like maybe the Ultimate imprint should just go away.
Eh. You're saying to tell a good story you need a lead from another writer?