What is better: Evil Villains or sympathetic villains?

Jaggyd

The member formerly known as skotti-chan
Agree with Ourchair. It should never be one or the other. There should be many types of people, heroes and villains, in comics.
 

Gemini

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closetted 7 year old villains

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Planet-man

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Yep. Depends. Sympathetic villains sometimes make for a better story, evil villains can be a bit more satisfying to overcome. I guess in the end-all be-all story of stories, I'd want an evil one who against all odds becomes sympathetic and eventually reforms. It's always saddened and frustrated me that The Killing Joke is the last we ever hear of the sympathetic Joker. "It's too late for that" - the fact that he's aware of the concept of a that applying to him means it isn't.
 

The Overlord

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Yep. Depends. Sympathetic villains sometimes make for a better story, evil villains can be a bit more satisfying to overcome. I guess in the end-all be-all story of stories, I'd want an evil one who against all odds becomes sympathetic and eventually reforms. It's always saddened and frustrated me that The Killing Joke is the last we ever hear of the sympathetic Joker. "It's too late for that" - the fact that he's aware of the concept of a that applying to him means it isn't.

There are certain lines a villain can't cross and remain sympathetic, Joker has crossed those lines, he has far too many "Rape the dog" moments to be sympathetic: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RapeTheDog

In killing Joke he tormented and sexually humiliated Barb Gordon,m so ironically that work failed to make him sympathetic and at this point he is a child killer, which makes it impossible to sympathize with him.

Yeah, some villains are just not sympathetic, Red Skull having a rough childhood does not excuse his acts of terror, hate and genocide. Any smpathy
Joker had because of his past is long gone after all the over the top evil things he has done.
 

Zombipanda

My Boom-Boom's mostly gay
Jim Shooter is neither evil nor sympathetic.

Jim Shooter is Satan.

But I get the impression he may be a genuinely nice guy.

Or maybe he just wants to eat my entrails.

Ultimate Houde said:
I like suicidal villains myself. they tend to make the stories end quicker.

Winner!

Man, I wish I had some sort of points I could distribute for jobs well done.
 
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ourchair

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Jim Shooter is Satan.

But I get the impression he may be a genuinely nice guy.

Or maybe he just wants to eat my entrails.
Maybe he's both.

Jim Shooter: "Underneath my repulsive entrail-eating exterior lies the heart of a nice guy!"
 

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