Ultimate Legacy Virus (Spoilers)

compound said:
I'd pick Cyclops over Rogue, as well, as the high-profile victim, from a story-telling point of view, because the expectation would be to say "They'd never kill him! [pause] Right?". For better or worse, Rogue could be *plausibly* killed, if there seemed to be no more *obvious* storylines for her character, taking away from the drama of the plot. But Scott feels indispensible to the team AND the larger X-Men mythos, and it would geniunely keep readers excited and speculating about "will they? won't they?" as the race for a treatment goes on.
The only problem with it is that kind of fan speculation is based on fact. They don't kill the big names almost ever. I'd hope they would if they ever did this but I doubt they would as well.
 
Caduceus said:
The only problem with it is that kind of fan speculation is based on fact. They don't kill the big names almost ever. I'd hope they would if they ever did this but I doubt they would as well.

Dont forget that Cyke did quit for over a year... on two or three separate occasions....

They could.... but you're right, they wont
 
Dr.Strangefate said:
Dont forget that Cyke did quit for over a year... on two or three separate occasions....

They could.... but you're right, they wont
But he's always come back is the thing.
 
TheManWithoutFear said:
I'd take either of them or Havok.
I wouldn't mind if Havok died but he isn't really a big name in the UU. The only characters it would affect would be Polaris and Emma (pending their reapperance) and Scott. No-one cares about Havok yet.
 
Caduceus said:
I wouldn't mind if Havok died but he isn't really a big name in the UU. The only characters it would affect would be Polaris and Emma (pending their reapperance) and Scott. No-one cares about Havok yet.


The fact that it would affect Scott makes it worth it. Once Havok knew it was time for him to die they could go and tell the back story of his relationship with Cyclops.
 
Ultimate Legacy Virus

The Legacy Virus was one of those storylines that had potenial 616 universe, but just seemed to go nowhere. Perhaps the Legacy Virsus could be adapted to UXM in a superior manner.

The first thing that has to change is its origins, not being created by a time travleing terrorist like Stryfe in the UU. I think the virus should be created by the Ultimate Friends of Humanity in UXM (they have already shown up UXM, so they just needed to be expanded upon).

The virus is a creation of some of the most powerful political and financial backers of the FOH:

Colonel William Stryker, one of the few backers of the Sentinel coup in the government who wasn't discovered and arrested. He secretly sends classified technology to the FOH to help them in thier quest to rid the world of mutants.

Cameron Hodge, a wealthy business tycoon and head of the Brand Corporation. Secretly hates mutants and gives financial support to the FOH. He is using his resources at the Brand Corporation to find ways to eliminate mutants.

Dr. Steven Lang, a brilliant geneticist who has been known to present some very radical theories, stating that mutants are freaks of nature, an evolutionary threat to the human race and to be exterminated. He has let go by the government after the sentinel coup, the government's new more pro mutant views meant his radical theories were no longer tolerated. He was secretly hired by the Brand Corporation to create a virus that could wipe out thae mutant race.

So these powerful individauls would be behind the creation of the Legacy Virus and then they would have their FOH minions spread the plague to mutants.

What else should happen, should the virus be released or do the X-Men destroy it before it can threaten the mutant race? If it were released, would it eventually affect normal humans?
 
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Ugh, the Legacy Virus being created by anyone is stupid imo. It should just be a disease created by nature.

And happy 666th post, Overlord! :D
 
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Ugh, the Legacy Virus being created by anyone is stupid imo. It should just be a disease created by nature.


How so, we live in the era where WMDs have become a grave threat and many nation states are creating designer viruses to get an edge over others. I don't see how it is unrealstic to say the virsus was created in a lab.
 
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How so, we live in the era where WMDs have become a grave threat and many nation states are creating designer viruses to get an edge over others. I don't see how it is unrealstic to say the virsus was created in a lab.

But since Legacy was created to be a mirror of AIDS, I think it shouldn't be man-made.
 
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But since Legacy was created to be a mirror of AIDS, I think it shouldn't be man-made.

If the Legacy Virus appeared naturally, then that would fuel the anti-mutant groups, saying that mutants really are abominations since God has seen fit to destroy them. It would make for some interesting storylines.
 
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The same way any new disease does. It just does.

Maybe it could be an outbreak or something that brings it to our attention.
 
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The same way any new disease does. It just does.

Maybe it could be an outbreak or something that brings it to our attention.

What but where's the end game then, we don't want some storyline to just hang around and dangle with no conclusion for several years, like the 616 Legacy Virus storyline.
 
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What but where's the end game then, we don't want some storyline to just hang around and dangle with no conclusion for several years, like the 616 Legacy Virus storyline.

Why should a Disease be introduced only to be cured...

AIDS still doesnt have a cure.

Im not saying this should be a major storypoint for years to come, but it should linger on the side as a risk for any mutant.

Perhaps a mutant can only contract the virus while using his or her powers.
 
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Why should a Disease be introduced only to be cured...

AIDS still doesnt have a cure.

Im not saying this should be a major storypoint for years to come, but it should linger on the side as a risk for any mutant.

Perhaps a mutant can only contract the virus while using his or her powers.


Why introduce a plot point that is never concluded?

I hate plot danglers and to have the Legacy virus just be the background all the time, with no conclusion is the same mistake the 616 universe made, it hardly touched upon plot point from 1993 to 2001 (that's 8 years) it was given a conclusion out of the blue. I rather the UU go a different route and conclude the storyline, rather then drawing it out over years.
 
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I would prefer the Ultimate Universe stay true to its deeper purpose of more realistic political and social themes and create a more plausible virus with longterm consequences, like any real virus. Perhaps they could contain an outbreak, but there shouldn't be a clear-cut cure that undermines the purpose of the virus altogether.

To make it interesting, perhaps it can be an STD like HIV and AIDS... This would protect the central cast, but for small groups of mutants living on the streets, the disease could become quite formidible. Hospitals would be afraid to treat them and they would be pushed out into the streets to die.

Perhaps this would be where the Ultimate Morlocks would come from... Dying homeless mutants forced to live in the sewers with little or no treatment. Perhaps storm would be infected somehow.

They could introduce mutant named "Patient Zero" mirroring Gaetan Dugas, the gay flight attendant whom they linked almost every case of AIDS to in dozens of major American and Canadian cities back in the mid-eighties. His sociopathic and reckless behavior destroyed countless lives.... It'd be interesting to see that sort of dangerous criminal in the Ultimate Universe.

It would also be interesting to see a much different Illyana Rasputin... sold into the sex trade only to discover she was a Mutant and that she contracted the Legacy Virus.
 

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