Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 2)

[Rman]

"Disney+ has placed Wakanda Forever between Moon Knight and She-Hulk on their timeline (I have Moon Knight in 2025 ending May 16th, I prefer it in 2025, so I use the wiki dates and She-Hulk beginning Mid-June 2025). I know using the Disney + timeline is controversial, but I think a late May/early June 2025 placement fits with what we're shown in the movie. The fact they didn't lazily place it between Werewolf by Night and the Guardians Holiday Special makes me believe some thought has gone into this placement.

Looking at MIT's schedule for this year, it seems Final Exams fall on the 19th, and 22nd-24th of May and there is a Summer session that Riri could also be a part of, explaining why she could potentially still be at school in June."

FTFY

"The movie literally had a deleted scene showing a date that matches the Disney + timeline.(the MIT schedule I posted earlier) It may not always be accurate (for the most part I think it is), but it's ridiculous to rule it out entirely."

FTFY

I bolded what you repeat again and again and again. I struck through the information that isn't needed for both posts, then inserted information that you could have said to backup your claim that you yourself used. Do you see what I'm getting at? Seriously, we get it, you firmly believe that MK is in 2025. Seriously we get it, you firmly believe the D+ timeline is correct or useful to you. As I have mentioned several times on here, I disagree with certain things on this forum during Phase 2 specifically, but I've long since dropped the subject and don't engage with it anymore. This forum is bigger than my continued opinion on that. I just keep my own guide and let this one be what it is.

But seriously...you need to let the jabs to these points go already. It completely turned me off to coming here and I actively started seeking out an alternative group/forum to this one. You simply don't get it. It's almost feels like a nervous tick for you that you HAVE to bring these points up at every single opportunity you have available to you. Like eventually you are going to wear the majority here down to simply give it to you and adjust the guide to your whim. Like I said, I left this site alone for 2 whole months, and when I loaded it up again, it's like I never left.

As I said, I mentioned Disney+ because Wakanda Forever's placement had just dropped. Are we just going to ignore it entirely, especially when their placement with the movie seems to be accurate? If it's such a big deal, I'll quit bringing up Moon Knight. The reason I do bring it up is that there are some, even on this site that do agree with a 2025 placement and I'm anecdotally bringing it up, because it's relevant to the topic of Wakanda Forever's placement. I'm not bringing it up to say "I'm right, you're wrong" and only mention it when it's relevant. As I said, I respect others' disagree and I'm not asking anyone to change anything. Not sure why you think I am. The only times I really comment on here are when something drops on Disney + or I find new information rewatching movies/shows. I don't bring Disney + up unless it's a relevant topic. There are a few placements on the service I might not agree with, but I think it's still a good tool to use (not automatically agree with) given for the moment, it's the closest thing we have to an actual timeline. And I wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming timeline book is similar to it.

For the most part, I agree with this site and respect others' opinions. So, I don't understand the personal attack. It seems like you take my posts in nefarious ways that I'm not meaning to come off as. If my being on here bothers you and others that much, then I can leave.

 

[Starvel]

While I agree that Rman does bring up his personal placements very frequently. I don't think he's wrong that we should at the very least acknowledge the Disney+ timeline. While I think it is definitely riddled with errors, especially Post-Infinity Saga, we can't just ignore entirely an official MCU Timeline from Disney, and it certainly not fair to "strike through" those parts of his comments. I think I've made it clear on here we shouldn't base any placements on what it says but I do always check in the morning when a new project drops on there where Disney+ places it. We should use all information available on projects to place them. I mean if we're still sharing articles about what directors say on where their films take place when clearly they don't know ****, then the Disney+ timeline definitely should be shared when it is updated. But just because we pay attention to it doesn't mean we use it.

That being said I think it's safe to say most of us have some placements here and there that disagree with the timeline here. I for example place Iron Man in 2010 (I know, I'll go get my clown makeup lol) but when discussing anything here I use this timelines placement and keep mine to myself. While I've never found it to be THAT big of an issue, when discussing new placements for projects we should use the agreed upon timeline for reference and keep our personal placements to ourselves. The Moon Knight debate was long but a decision was reached and until new info comes out about it it should be regarded as happening in 2024 for the purposes of this timeline.

 

[fuzzyfoot]

As I said, I mentioned Disney+ because Wakanda Forever's placement had just dropped. Are we just going to ignore it entirely, especially when their placement with the movie seems to be accurate? If it's such a big deal, I'll quit bringing up Moon Knight. The reason I do bring it up is that there are some, even on this site that do agree with a 2025 placement and I'm anecdotally bringing it up, because it's relevant to the topic of Wakanda Forever's placement. I'm not bringing it up to say "I'm right you're wrong" and only mention it when it's relevant. As I said, I respect others' disagree and I'm not asking anyone to change anything. Not sure why you think I am. The only times I really comment on here are when something drops on Disney + or I find new information rewatching movies/shows. I don't bring Disney + up unless it's a relevant topic. There are a few placements on the service I might not agree with, but I think it's still a good tool to use (not automatically agree with) given for the moment, it's the closest thing we have to an actual timeline. And I wouldn't be surprised if the upcoming timeline book is similar to it.

For the most part, I agree with this site and respect others' opinions. So, I don't understand the personal attack. It seems like you take my posts in nefarious ways that I'm not meaning to come off as. If my being on here bothers you and others that much, then I can leave.

You're missing the point though. That is why I said what I said about Phase 2. You want to continue bringing up MK 2025 because there are some who agree, I once did that with my opinion of Phase 2, because like yours, there are others that could agree (I don't know anymore as its been years honestly). For BOTH of our sakes, this forum is beyond that though. We took a poll, the majority placed it, the end. And seriously after what I keep telling you about your posts...do you really think the people that agree with you need reminding...literally every single time? I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT MK, LAT, 2024 VS 2025, AND THE D+ TIMELINE, because you continue to remind us.

This forum has it in 2024. D+ has it in 2025. Imagine if every single time someone brings up BP 1, I use every chance possible to plug the Marvel Studio First 10 years book and say they place it in 2017, or I say that's how I have it in my guide. What ACTUAL purpose does it serve at this point when the forum disagrees and has moved on from it?

I'm not asking you to leave as I love debating the timeline with everyone here, I'm asking you to consider what you say in each post. I fixed your two posts to show you that you CAN discuss this stuff without resorting to horn tooting your own guide on the matter. I think you are correct in the month and year of the movie 'based on what we're shown in the movie', and your MIT research is awesome at backing that up to solidify that initial claim. I don't 100% discount D+ as I do find it intriguing where Marvel places things. However, you used their placement as yet another opportunity to plug MK in 2025 and your guide based on the wiki, when all you had to say was She-Hulk is in June 2025 so it stands to reason that BPWF should be late May, and then reiterate the MIT facts to further cement it.

Does that make sense?

 

[Rman]

While I agree that Rman does bring up his personal placements very frequently. I don't think he's wrong that we should at the very least acknowledge the Disney+ timeline. While I think it is definitely riddled with errors, especially Post-Infinity Saga, we can't just ignore entirely an official MCU Timeline from Disney, and it certainly not fair to "strike through" those parts of his comments. I think I've made it clear on here we shouldn't base any placements on what it says but I do always check in the morning when a new project drops on there where Disney+ places it. We should use all information available on projects to place them. I mean if we're still sharing articles about what directors say on where their films take place when clearly they don't know ****, then the Disney+ timeline definitely should be shared when it is updated. But just because we pay attention to it doesn't mean we use it.

That being said I think it's safe to say most of us have some placements here and there that disagree with the timeline here. I for example place Iron Man in 2010 (I know, I'll go get my clown makeup lol) but when discussing anything here I use this timelines placement and keep mine to myself. While I've never found it to be THAT big of an issue, when discussing new placements for projects we should use the agreed upon timeline for reference and keep our personal placements to ourselves. The Moon Knight debate was long but a decision was reached and until new info comes out about it it should be regarded as happening in 2024 for the purposes of this timeline.

The only times I've recently brought up my personal Moon Knight placement were when there was already a discussion about it and its relation to Wakanda Forever's Disney + placement (as I've mentioned). It was brought up how the only reason people choose 2025 for Moon Knight is to match Disney + or so 2024 isn't crowded, and as someone who has it in 2025, I simply defended my stance against that.

You're missing the point though. That is why I said what I said about Phase 2. You want to continue bringing up MK 2025 because there are some who agree, I once did that with my opinion of Phase 2, because like yours, there are others that could agree (I don't know anymore as its been years honestly). For BOTH of our sakes, this forum is beyond that though. We took a poll, the majority placed it, the end. And seriously after what I keep telling you about your posts...do you really think the people that agree with you need reminding...literally every single time? I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT MK, LAT, 2024 VS 2025, AND THE D+ TIMELINE, because you continue to remind us.

This forum has it in 2024. D+ has it in 2025. Imagine if every single time someone brings up BP 1, I use every chance possible to plug the Marvel Studio First 10 years book and say they place it in 2017, or I say that's how I have it in my guide. What ACTUAL purpose does it serve at this point when the forum disagrees and has moved on from it?

I'm not asking you to leave as I love debating the timeline with everyone here, I'm asking you to consider what you say in each post. I fixed your two posts to show you that you CAN discuss this stuff without resorting to horn tooting your own guide on the matter. I think you are correct in the month and year of the movie 'based on what we're shown in the movie', and your MIT research is awesome at backing that up to solidify that initial claim. I don't 100% discount D+ as I do find it intriguing where Marvel places things. However, you used their placement as yet another opportunity to plug MK in 2025 and your guide based on the wiki, when all you had to say was She-Hulk is in June 2025 so it stands to reason that BPWF should be late May, and then reiterate the MIT facts to further cement it.

Does that make sense?

The 10 Year Book was never an "official" release and the confusion came from people believing it was the timeline Fegie talked about that is the one releasing in September. Like I said I meant no "horn tooting", just that if you did have the show in 2025, it was nice to see a fit as an anecdote. And I felt it was relevant to Wakanda Forever's placement. If you take it as me plugging my own timeline, then I apologize as that isn't my intention at all. If it bothers people that much, I'll remain quiet on Moon Knight. Especially since it's being taken in a way I didn't intend.

I honestly don't think I talk about it unless it's already a topic of discussion or relevant, but if others think I bring it up too much. You must be seeing something I'm not.

 

[Starvel]

So I've recently learned that a man resembling Stan Lee appears in a mural in the first episode of Loki. I've been told this resemblance is intentional (tho I can't find a source specifically stating this) and implies that the Stan Lee cameos across all Marvel properties are the same Stan Lee. Idk if this is 100% true but I certainly choose to believe it and I'd love it for Marvel to confirm it someway in future projects

 

[Pro Bot]

The Guardians of the Galaxy game already implied that somewhat.

 

[Starvel]

The Guardians of the Galaxy game already implied that somewhat.

While that it true and very cool, the game doesn't share any direct connection to the MCU or imply Multiversal connection I believe like this. I like to think Stan worked for the TVA and this connects all his cameos together as the same character

 

[selfishmisery]

Be careful, Ant Man 3 leaks are coming out...

 

[Rman]

Watching Ms. Marvel as part of my rewatch of everything before Quantumania (I'm in the home stretch) and after looking more closely at the September calendar, it looks like it actually matches September 2025, beginning on a Monday. Whether it's a coincidence or them firmly paying attention, it's a nice confirmation.

 

[FruityWho50]

Anyone here who has been lucky enough to see Ant-Man 3 early and able to give us any spoiler free timeline indicators?

 

[Slyonic]

I'll be seeing it in a couple of hours. I'll keep watch for any timeline indicators!

 

[Slyonic]

Honestly didn't catch any timeline mentions, don't think there were any. At the end of the movie it looks like there is a pretty definitive one, but it's a swerve.
Most of it is in the Quantum Realm, but the scenes outside of it look like summer, I guess.

 

[woodlark_289]

is there any implication at all that the tva could be in the quantum realm?

 

[Rman]

Honestly didn't catch any timeline mentions, don't think there were any. At the end of the movie it looks like there is a pretty definitive one, but it's a swerve.
Most of it is in the Quantum Realm, but the scenes outside of it look like summer, I guess.

Is Cassie confirmed in the actual movie to be 18? I think there's a chance Marvel ignores the October phone date from Ant-Man and considers her birthday as being in July around Ant-Man's release date. Hopefully, the upcoming timeline gives us more confirmation. But, I do feel like Summer 2025, after Wakanda Forever and around She-Hulk would be a safe bet.

 

[Starvel]

Is Cassie confirmed in the actual movie to be 18? I think there's a chance Marvel ignores the October phone date from Ant-Man and considers her birthday as being in July around Ant-Man's release date. Hopefully, the upcoming timeline gives us more confirmation. But, I do feel like Summer 2025, after Wakanda Forever and around She-Hulk would be a safe bet.

Personally I always thought Summer 2015 works best for Ant-Man anyway. If I'm not mistaken doesn't it have to happen in the summer as in the first episode of AoS S03 the events of the of the film are directly referenced by Coulson or Fitz?

 

[Rman]

Personally I always thought Summer 2015 works best for Ant-Man anyway. If I'm not mistaken doesn't it have to happen in the summer as in the first episode of AoS S03 the events of the of the film are directly referenced by Coulson or Fitz?

That episode is at the earliest sometime in October, so anytime before that works. I personally lean closer to the movie being in late September/early October not only due to the phone date, but I feel it fits the weather more, and with Peter saying he's had his powers for 6 months in Civil War (the end of Ant-Man seemingly having a reference to him).

I am open to Summer 2015 though if Quantumania does in fact tell us Cassie's 18. I just don't see Scott's book tour lasting from May-September. May-July would be a little more believable.

 

[Slyonic]

is there any implication at all that the tva could be in the quantum realm?

Not really, there's mention that the Quantum Realm is

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outside of space and time

, but other than that, no proof that it is.

Is Cassie confirmed in the actual movie to be 18? I think there's a chance Marvel ignores the October phone date from Ant-Man and considers her birthday as being in July around Ant-Man's release date. Hopefully, the upcoming timeline gives us more confirmation. But, I do feel like Summer 2025, after Wakanda Forever and around She-Hulk would be a safe bet.

No, the only thing that comes close is the swerve I was talking about:

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Scott buys Cassie a birthdaycake, but when he gives it to her, she says it's not her birthday. Cake doesn't say anything other than Happy Birthday either.

 

[Rman]

Not really, there's mention that the Quantum Realm is

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outside of space and time

, but other than that, no proof that it is.


No, the only thing that comes close is the swerve I was talking about:

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Scott buys Cassie a birthdaycake, but when he gives it to her, she says it's not her birthday. Cake doesn't say anything other than Happy Birthday either.

I guess that gives some leeway. I'm feeling pretty comfortable with a Summer 2025 placement. Not too long after Wakanda Forever. Even with the reviews, I'm still looking forward to seeing the movie tomorrow.

 

[FruityWho50]

Just finished ant man 3, omg so much hype already for phase 5, very fun film with lots of action, dread and quips but they aren't as forced and cheesy as Thor 4 thank God.

Anyways main events happen across 1-2 days, small time jump at the end (1-3 days) due to recapping main story events.
There are a few gay pride street store displays in the epilogue, so definitely around June 2025, but with Peyton Reed saying that cassie is 18 we have to assume her bday has already happened, so we are looking at either June or July or even August 2025 atm, now to play the waiting game.

 

[Rman]

Just finished ant man 3, omg so much hype already for phase 5, very fun film with lots of action, dread and quips but they aren't as forced and cheesy as Thor 4 thank God.

Anyways main events happen across 1-2 days, small time jump at the end (1-3 days) due to recapping main story events.
There are a few gay pride street store displays in the epilogue, so definitely around June 2025, but with Peyton Reed saying that cassie is 18 we have to assume her bday has already happened, so we are looking at either June or July or even August 2025 atm, now to play the waiting game.

Some San Fransisco scenes were shot around June 2021, which probably explains the Pride stuff. With the actual movie not confirming Cassie's age, I think there's some leeway with a June 2025 placement. It would fit with the reference to Scott's book tour in Wakanda Forever.

 

[woodlark_289]

Spoiler: quantumania spoilers

cassie was arrested at an adult prison correct, meaning 18+? unless i'm wrong there we know it must be from july-oct 2025 forward depending on what consensus is reached on when her birthday is, i think we can look at her line about being 6 during the original Ant-Man as a throwaway line (again unless in san francisco minors can be detained and arrested, then my entire argument is invalid)

it seems as if this is the kang he who remains warned loki and sylvie of at the end of loki season 1?

overall unfortunately this one felt like it only really muddled the timeline, if anyone can start to make sense of the multiverse stuff from this movie i would love to hear it

 

[Starvel]

After seeing the film i think it's gotta be at least shortly after Cassie's 18th birthday post-October but likely not long tho there wasn't anything specific and could probably slot anywhere 2025. For now until an agreement is made here about where or more info comes I'm placing mine mid-fall 2025

 

[Rman]

After seeing the film i think it's gotta be at least shortly after Cassie's 18th birthday post-October but likely not long tho there wasn't anything specific and could probably slot anywhere 2025. For now until an agreement is made here about where or more info comes I'm placing mine mid-fall 2025

I think the book tour reference in Wakanda Forever places it closer to the Summer. As I said, I wouldn't be surprised if the October phone date from Ant-Man is ignored (it's pretty blink and you'll miss it anyway) and Marvel sees Cassie's birthday as being July (even with the October phone date, her birthday would be September 25th). I think I may wait and see what Disney + does given how vague the movie actually is.

Having watched it, I felt pretty comfortable with something around Summer 2025.

 

[Starvel]

I think the book tour reference in Wakanda Forever places it closer to the Summer. As I said, I wouldn't be surprised if the October phone date from Ant-Man is ignored (it's pretty blink and you'll miss it anyway) and Marvel sees Cassie's birthday as being July (even with the October phone date, her birthday would be September 25th). I think I may wait and see what Disney + does given how vague the movie actually is.

I agree but until Disney+ or something else kinda disagrees with what's already in the films Imma stick with it

 

[Starvel]

I think the book tour reference in Wakanda Forever places it closer to the Summer. As I said, I wouldn't be surprised if the October phone date from Ant-Man is ignored (it's pretty blink and you'll miss it anyway) and Marvel sees Cassie's birthday as being July (even with the October phone date, her birthday would be September 25th). I think I may wait and see what Disney + does given how vague the movie actually is.

Having watched it, I felt pretty comfortable with something around Summer 2025.

No wait sorry, why does Marvel consider Cassie's birthday in July? Did I miss something?

 

[Rman]

No wait sorry, why does Marvel consider Cassie's birthday in July? Did I miss something?

I'm just making an assumption with all the other evidence leaning toward her needing to be 18 and fitting what is looking like a Summer placement. The wiki timeline ignores the October phone date for the first movie and has her birthday shortly after Scott's prison release (confirmed to be July 17th). It wouldn't be surprising if Marvel had something similar too. As I said before, hopefully, the upcoming book gives us something a little more concrete.

 

[Starvel]

I'm just making an assumption with all the other evidence leaning toward her needing to be 18 and fitting what is looking like a Summer placement. The wiki timeline ignores the October phone date for the first movie and has her birthday shortly after Scott's prison release (confirmed to be July 17th). It wouldn't be surprising if Marvel had something similar too. As I said before, hopefully, the upcoming book gives us something a little more concrete.

Ah I see, well then yeah until something more concrete happens it'll be fall 2025 for me tho I'd love to hear what everyone else thinks and why

 

[Rman]

Ah I see, well then yeah until something more concrete happens it'll be fall 2025 for me tho I'd love to hear what everyone else thinks and why

I just personally have an issue with Scott's book tour lasting from May-October. I think Disney + and what the upcoming timeline book says about the original will help me narrow it down. Right now I like the original movie more in September-October 2015, but I don't really have an issue if I need to move it up a little to July-August 2015.

 

[Geekritique]

Hey guys. Thought I'd share. I place the moment they enter the Quantum Realm at July 24th based on an in-film date.

 

[Starvel]

Hey guys. Thought I'd share. I place the moment they enter the Quantum Realm at July 24th based on an in-film date.

Oh awesome, that'll definitely narrow it down easy! Where was the date at?