DC's Earth-66 - Timeline

[RetroZilla]

K, thanks!

 

[Pro Bot]

If we're gonna be consistent, then I guess I'd need to do this. Might make it new thread this time.

Earth-66
Batman S1-3
The Green Hornet S1
Legends of the Superheroes S1
Batman: The Movie
Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders
Batman vs. Two-Face

Earth-76
Wonder Woman S1-3

Earth-66 (Comic Multiverse)
Batman S1-3
The Green Hornet S1
Wonder Woman S1-3
Legends of the Superheroes S1
Batman: The Movie
*Comic Book Tie-Ins*

 

[Megatron]

The timeline Is back.

 

[Pro Bot]

Same as on the Wonder Woman timeline, I just forgot to say when I updated it.

 

[Megatron]

Same as on the Wonder Woman timeline, I just forgot to say when I updated it.

Oh, didn't know about it ahahaha.

 

[pinkbubblesgoape]

The Green Hornet #1-3

Can someone specify which Green Hornet comic is that? Year and/or cover would be good.

 

[ItzStitch626]

Can someone specify which Green Hornet comic is that? Year and/or cover would be good.

I think it's the one published by gold key

 

[Zeitschiene]

Oi, I just read this:
https://batspray.blog/2018/10/03/the-batman-66-connected-universe/
Even though you won't include it, can we discuss the canonicity? I mean most are literal character cameos, so it must be canon, right?

 

[Zeitschiene]

Oi, I just read this:
https://batspray.blog/2018/10/03/the-batman-66-connected-universe/
Even though you won't include it, can we discuss the canonicity? I mean most are literal character cameos, so it must be canon, right?

Earth-66

• Batman Season 1-3
• Legends of the Superheroes Season 1
• The Green Hornet Season 1
• The Spirit #1-631 (?)
• The Steve Allen ShowSeason 1-6
  • (Several Shows connected to The Steve Allen Show)
• The Felony Squad Season 1-3
• Judd, for the Defense Season 1-2
• Hogan's Heroes Season 1-6
• The Addams Family Season 1-2
• The Monkees Season 1-2
• (Lost in Space Season 1-3)
• The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Season 1-4
• The Girl from U.N.C.L.E. Season 1
• Please Don't Eat the Daisies Season 1-2
• Get Smart Season 1-5
• The Avengers Season 1-6
• The New Avengers Season 1-2

Earth-76

• Wonder Woman Season 1-3
• The Bionic Woman Season 1-3
• The Bionic Woman: Season Four #1-4
• The Six Million Dollar Man Season 1-5

Adventures of Superman Universe

• Adventures of Superman Season 1-6

 

[Pro Bot]

The timeline for it doesn't match. Lost in Space begins in 1997. Hogan's Heroes is set in the 1940s.

 

[Zeitschiene]

The timeline for it doesn't match. Lost in Space begins in 1997. Hogan's Heroes is set in the 1940s.

Yeah, but what bout the others? Besides, the Lost on Space cameo is before the series Events. Hogan I accept, because i dont think that min. 21 years later the character haven't aged

 

[Pro Bot]

Lost in Space has them going to space in the 1960s when they're supposed to do it in the 1990s.

I'd forget about the window cameos if we're going in that direction. They're just joke variants in my opinion.

Now... James Bond directly crossed over with The Man from U.N.C.L.E., so you could technically say the 1962-2002 James Bond films are set in Earth-66.

 

[Pro Bot]

Earth-66

• Batman Season 1-3
• Legends of the Superheroes Season 1
• The Green Hornet Season 1
• The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Season 1-4
• The Girl from U.N.C.L.E. Season 1
• The Avengers Season 1-6
• The New Avengers Season 1-2
• James Bond film series 1-20

Earth-76

• Wonder Woman Season 1-3
• The Bionic Woman Season 1-3
• The Six Million Dollar Man Season 1-5

Earth-66 is literally just the Spy-Verse in that view, lol.

 

[Pro Bot]

 

[Rojinn]

Earth-66

• Batman Season 1-3
• Legends of the Superheroes Season 1
• The Green Hornet Season 1
• The Man from U.N.C.L.E. Season 1-4
• The Girl from U.N.C.L.E. Season 1
• Please Don't Eat the Daisies Season 1-2
• Get Smart Season 1-5
• The Avengers Season 1-6
• The New Avengers Season 1-2
• James Bond film series 1-20

Earth-76

• Wonder Woman Season 1-3
• The Bionic Woman Season 1-3
• The Six Million Dollar Man Season 1-5

Earth-66 is literally just the Spy-Verse in that view, lol.

I think The Monkees should be in it aswell, because Penguin from Earth-66 appeared in that show

 

[Zeitschiene]

Yeah but this is soooo not canon

 

[Pro Bot]

Yeah but this is soooo not canon

A secret agent played by George Lazenby called JB who drives an Aston Martin, wears a white tux, is "just like her majesty's secret service", and has a take on James Bond's theme. Additionally, The Man From U.N.C.L.E. was produced by MGM while MGM distributed the James Bond film series. The scene also only works if you understand that the cameo IS James Bond.

Personally, I think it's more canon than the window cameos. Because of the nature of it, it's not beyond questionable though.

 

[Zeitschiene]

What about Lazenby's Bond in Diamonds Aren't Forever?

 

[Pro Bot]

That's actually a character called James Grant based on the credits.

 

[Pro Bot]

Lazenby made 3 appearances as "James Bond" and Return of the Man from U.N.C.L.E. is the only one which I believe is supposed to be serious, canon or not. It doesn't work as a scene without the understanding that Bond is coming to save the protagonists. Just some random agent would be a bit unsatisfying. If you asked the people behind the film, I'm sure they'd tell you that it was Bond.

At the very least, I would say James Bond exists in The Man From U.N.C.L.E. Universe.

 

[Zeitschiene]

At the very least, I would say James Bond exists in The Man From U.N.C.L.E. Universe.

That we can agree on...

 

[Zeitschiene]

What about The Rock with Sean Connery?

 

[Zeitschiene]

One more Bond Question, is Brosnan Bond in the same Timeline as the others? It seems not

 

[Megatron]

One more Bond Question, is Brosnan Bond in the same Timeline as the others? It seems not

Officially there Isn't a strict Canon as for what I know, thanks to Spectre and NTTD every movie Is on the same timeline and James Bond Isn't a code name (M and Q's fault) so IDK, maybe yes, maybe no. I really don't know.

 

[Megatron]

Basically you could Say that if you ignote NTTD that every actor Is his universe, but IDK if you can connect the others. Pro Bot suggested to have all the movie before Casino Royale as One timeline and the Craig era as another.

 

[Megatron]

If you want to have all the bond as One universe you have to know that wathever you do Isn't going to work, if you want bond's Age to work you have to put 3 movies in 1 year each, if you don't want to have the URSS to fall then come back and then fall again you have to put Casino Royale in 1953 but that means that during NTTD Bond Is 100+ years old. Literally this can't work.

 

[Pro Bot]

If you want to have all the bond as One universe you have to know that wathever you do Isn't going to work, if you want bond's Age to work you have to put 3 movies in 1 year each, if you don't want to have the URSS to fall then come back and then fall again you have to put Casino Royale in 1953 but that means that during NTTD Bond Is 100+ years old. Literally this can't work.

Casino Royale is a reboot, confirmed both on the timeline and behind the scenes. It changes the relationships of characters and the timeline itself. The events of GoldenEye take place around 2010 now. The other movies would occur between Quantum of Solace and Skyfall also, I suppose. The codename theory is nonsense, so I'm discarding it as such. M being the same actress is a connection, but they have different names, Barbara Mawdsley in the GoldenEye script and Olivia Mansfield in Skyfall, so it's just a case of two alternate universe versions of M who look the same.

Let me prove that it's the same guy from 1962 to 2002.

Firstly, the dates in the films do place them definitely in their release years. Don't worry, that has a solution that doesn't involve super serums or anything, lol.

James Bond (George Lazenby) meets Blofeld for "the first time" after meeting him in the previous film (played by Sean Connery). This is because On Her Majesty's Secret Service was their first meeting in book canon. Bond was wearing a Japanese disguise in the previous film, so I guess Blofeld didn't recognise him (?).

In On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969), James Bond marries Tracy in 1969, where she is killed in a drive-by shortly afterwards.

In For Your Eyes Only (1981), Bond (Roger Moore) takes flowers to Tracy's grave (George Lazenby's wife). The gravestone states that died in 1969. In the script and comic adaptation, it states that Bond and "Blofeld" last met 10 years ago, which matches with Diamonds are Forever (1971), starring Sean Connery. There's other connections between these three Bonds but this definitely places them in a single timeline.

In License to Kill (1989), it's mentioned that Bond (Timothy Dalton) married once, and it's a sore subject, tying in continuity from previous Bonds.

In The World Is Not Enough (1999), Bond (Pierce Brosnan) avoids the question of if he ever lost someone he loved, once again bringing Tracy up as a continuity nod. Further, Bond's family motto mentioned in On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969), "the world is not enough", is referenced, although that was taken from Sir Thomas Bond, a real person.

In Die Another Day (2002), we get a scene with various gadgets and references to previous Bond films, suggesting that they are all part of the same history as that film.

Additionally, certain characters are recast even within a single Bond's series, or they stay the same actor even between Bonds. To say that a different Bond is a new continuity would essentially make most of Sean Connery's films different universes too, if we assume that a recast means a different reality. We know that's not the case though, so logically every film is a shared timeline until the explicit continuity reboot.

As for Bond's age, this is speculative, but if we apply Bond's age from the Moonraker novel (37) to the film timeline, we can apply that to every other film. It's not canon, but it's certainly interesting how well it plays out. The Bond films simply occur from his 20s all the way to his early 60s. It's not unbelievable in the realm of fiction. We can just apply this to the other characters in the series, like Monnypenny, Leiter, maybe Q and M, whatever seems the most reasonable compared to Bond's age.

1962 - Dr. No (Age 21)
1963 - From Russia with Love (Age 22)
1964 - Goldfinger (Age 23)
1965 - Thunderbolt (Age 24)
1966 - You Only Live Twice (Age 25)
1969 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Age 28)
1971 - Diamonds Are Forever (Age 30)
1973 - Live and Let Die (Age 32)
1974 - The Man with the Golden Gun (Age 33)
1977 - The Spy Who Loved Me (Age 36)
1978 - Moonraker (Age 37)
1980 - For Your Eyes Only (Age 39)
1982 - Octopussy (Prologue) (Age 41)
1983 - Octopussy (Age 42)
1985 - A View to a Kill (Age 44)
1987 - GoldenEye (Prologue) (Age 46)
1987 - The Living Daylights (Age 46)
1989 - Licence to Kill (Age 48)
1996 - GoldenEye (Age 55)
1997 - Tomorrow Never Dies (Age 56)
1999 - The World Is Not Enough (Age 58)
2001 - Die Another Day (Prologue) (Age 60)
2002 - Die Another Day (Age 61)

 

[Megatron]

Casino Royale is a reboot, confirmed both on the timeline and behind the scenes. It changes the relationships of characters and the timeline itself. The events of GoldenEye take place around 2010 now. The other movies would occur between Quantum of Solace and Skyfall also, I suppose. The codename theory is nonsense, so I'm discarding it as such. M being the same actress is a connection, but they have different names, Barbara Mawdsley in the GoldenEye script and Olivia Mansfield in Skyfall, so it's just a case of two alternate universe versions of M who look the same.

Let me prove that it's the same guy from 1962 to 2002.

Firstly, the dates in the films do place them definitely in their release years. Don't worry, that has a solution that doesn't involve super serums or anything, lol.

James Bond (George Lazenby) meets Blofeld for "the first time" after meeting him in the previous film (played by Sean Connery). This is because On Her Majesty's Secret Service was their first meeting in book canon. Bond was wearing a Japanese disguise in the previous film, so I guess Blofeld didn't recognise him (?).

In On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969), James Bond marries Tracy in 1969, where she is killed in a drive-by shortly afterwards.

In For Your Eyes Only (1981), Bond (Roger Moore) takes flowers to Tracy's grave (George Lazenby's wife). The gravestone states that died in 1969. In the script and comic adaptation, it states that Bond and "Blofeld" last met 10 years ago, which matches with Diamonds are Forever (1971), starring Sean Connery. There's other connections between these three Bonds but this definitely places them in a single timeline.

In License to Kill (1989), it's mentioned that Bond (Timothy Dalton) married once, and it's a sore subject, tying in continuity from previous Bonds.

In The World Is Not Enough (1999), Bond (Pierce Brosnan) avoids the question of if he ever lost someone he loved, once again bringing Tracy up as a continuity nod. Further, Bond's family motto mentioned in On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969), "the world is not enough", is referenced, although that was taken from Sir Thomas Bond, a real person.

In Die Another Day (2002), we get a scene with various gadgets and references to previous Bond films, suggesting that they are all part of the same history as that film.

Additionally, certain characters are recast even within a single Bond's series, or they stay the same actor even between Bonds. To say that a different Bond is a new continuity would essentially make most of Sean Connery's films different universes too, if we assume that a recast means a different reality. We know that's not the case though, so logically every film is a shared timeline until the explicit continuity reboot.

As for Bond's age, this is speculative, but if we apply Bond's age from the Moonraker novel (37) to the film timeline, we can apply that to every other film. It's not canon, but it's certainly interesting how well it plays out. The Bond films simply occur from his 20s all the way to his early 60s. It's not unbelievable in the realm of fiction. We can just apply this to the other characters in the series, like Q and M, whatever seems the most reasonable compared to their age.

1962 - Dr. No (Age 21)
1963 - From Russia with Love (Age 22)
1964 - Goldfinger (Age 23)
1965 - Thunderbolt (Age 24)
1966 - You Only Live Twice (Age 25)
1969 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Age 28)
1971 - Diamonds Are Forever (Age 30)
1973 - Live and Let Die (Age 32)
1974 - The Man with the Golden Gun (Age 33)
1977 - The Spy Who Loved Me (Age 36)
1978 - Moonraker (Age 37)
1980 - For Your Eyes Only (Age 39)
1982 - Octopussy (Prologue) (Age 41)
1983 - Octopussy (Age 42)
1985 - A View to a Kill (Age 44)
1987 - GoldenEye (Prologue) (Age 46)
1987 - The Living Daylights (Age 46)
1989 - Licence to Kill (Age 48)
1996 - GoldenEye (Age 55)
1997 - Tomorrow Never Dies (Age 56)
1999 - The World Is Not Enough (Age 58)
2001 - Die Another Day (Prologue) (Age 60)
2002 - Die Another Day (Age 61)

Sorry but I didn't explain myself properly. I know that the bond movies from 1962 to 2002 can be One timeline, I was saying that bringing the Craig era into the mix wouldn't work, for both Bond's Age and historical events. That's why I advised to follow what you did, mr. Probot.

 

[Megatron]

Anyway since you referenced the comics, I know that they have 2 timeline, so how do they work?

 

[Pro Bot]

Ah, are you talking about the newer comics? I was taking about the adaptation that came out around the same time, but sure, I'll give it a go.

Basically, most of Dynamite Comics' James Bond stories take place in their own unique modern day timeline except for James Bond Origin. James Bond Origin is a prequel to the original novels set in the 1940s. James Bond Origin is therefore either it's own continuity, possibly sharing continuity with the modern comic adaptations of Casino Royale and Live and Let Die, or a prequel to the original James Bond Fleming novels. From my understanding, anyway.