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Alien: Romulus won't break established Alien canon
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Alien vs. Predator - Timeline
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Aliens: What If...
Aliens: What If... is a five-issue comic book series that was published by Marvel Comics. It was written by Paul Reiser, Leon Reiser, Adam F. Goldberg, Brian Volk-Weiss, and Hans Rodionoff, illustrated by Guiu Vilanova, colored by Yen Nitro, lettered by VC's Clayton Cowles, and edited by Sarah...
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ive personally just put this in its own category like star wars visions, as long as nothing explicitly contradicts existing canon i dont see a problem treating it as such but "on paper" its clearly not meant to imply anything greaterThis doesn't actually contradict Aliens because Burke's death was off-screen and they explain what happens afterwards. I suppose it's canon? But it does heavily contradict Aliens: Colonial Marines: Stasis Interrupted so that's problematic.Aliens: What If...
Aliens: What If... is a five-issue comic book series that was published by Marvel Comics. It was written by Paul Reiser, Leon Reiser, Adam F. Goldberg, Brian Volk-Weiss, and Hans Rodionoff, illustrated by Guiu Vilanova, colored by Yen Nitro, lettered by VC's Clayton Cowles, and edited by Sarah...avp.fandom.com
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The thing is it explains how Ripley ended up on Fury in Alien³ though. It's showing another perspective on events that are supposedly diverged. It's not very good at being divergent basically.
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Maybe it's Like "what if we show this thing" ahahahah.
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ah i see, i actually was waiting for the 5 issues to all be out before i read them all, just looking at the wiki i found this:
- Within the opening pages of issue #1, an alternate timeline of events depicted Burkes ability to escape from the hive in which he had been cocooned when Gorman and Vasquez, trapped within the operations center by a swarm of Xenomorphs, detonated a grenade, killing themselves and the Xenomorphs that surrounded them. The blast being the reason Burke was knocked loose from the hive's resin, allowing him to escape. Though, in the 1986 feature film Aliens, it was stated that the hive was located beneath the atmospheric processing station, miles away from the colony's operations center, where Vasquez and Gorman took their own lives.
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Yeah, but I think that's more of a fuck-up than an alternate timeline. There's no way they died at the same time Ripley was coming for Newt. That's impossible regardless of if it was a different timeline or not. As you can see, I've worked around that entirely. I'm assuming the explosion was part of the atmosphere processor meltdown.
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Arcadia 234
Arcadia 234 was the planet on which Todd 3465 is stranded in the film Soldier. It is also the home of a group of humans who left Earth in 2024. The part of the colony that he is stranded at is a Large Junkyard filled with Wreakage that's deposited here over many years such as the flying cars...
Wasn't expecting the planet from Soldier to show up, what the hell? Granted, it got blown up in that movie so it's not connected in a direct timeline sense, but still. It is literally the exact same planet.
I guess this just further shows that Blade Runner is a parallel timeline to AVP, where technology progressed much quicker but the environment was at a much higher risk. We know that the events of Blade Runner played out in the AVP timeline (based on Prometheus extras), just not how we saw it in the film.
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He says he's a replicant. The android says he's a replicant, on a planet that originated from a Blade Runner spin-off. Blade Runner references, holy crap. If it wasn't for the fact that Arcadia 234 is apparently completely destroyed, this would be probably the most sufficient proof of a connection.
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what comic is this?
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Aliens: What If...? #2. Burke recovers and repairs a "replicant" (Blade Runner) designed for combat from the planet "Arcadia 234" (Soldier).
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Tbh there are some ruins in the comic. Or maybe i saw wrong.
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I don't know, man. That place got Alderaan'd if you ask me. It has been 143 years in-universe though.
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I suppose it's similar to how Aliens: Colonial Marines treated the Atmosphere Processor explosion from Aliens. It's downplayed. A planet-wide nuclear bomb and it doesn't actually destroy the planet. It just creates a hugely destructive explosion that eradicated the planet for years. Stupid explanation really, but that's what I'd go with.
It's literally the exact same planet and they're familiar with the term "replicant" in-universe (though it is an android, not a replicant - we see it had white blood in #4). It's silly because there's quite a few notable contradictions between Alien and Blade Runner. Most of the legitimate connections are exaggerated. I think the people behind this comic believed there was a connection though. The Soldier planet is a deep-cut reference. It's not a well-known film to begin with.
It's literally the exact same planet and they're familiar with the term "replicant" in-universe (though it is an android, not a replicant - we see it had white blood in #4). It's silly because there's quite a few notable contradictions between Alien and Blade Runner. Most of the legitimate connections are exaggerated. I think the people behind this comic believed there was a connection though. The Soldier planet is a deep-cut reference. It's not a well-known film to begin with.
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The time difference between The Predator (2018) and Blade Runner (2019) reminds me of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 1-3 (reboot) taking place a few years before Black Ops 2 in the same universe. There's also a Blade Runner comic set in 2009 showing off-world colonies in 2007. That's a tough thing to reconcile with the Weyland timeline.
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exactly, the predator 2018 is my biggest issue with the overall timeline flow and everything looking at least somewhat congruous
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Oh yeah, BTW @Pro Bot, you planning to include any of the novels in the timeline, cause if so, I can get a list of ones that are canon. Not sure if you'd also want any that are novelizations of the movies or whatnot, but if so, lemme know.
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To me, I have had this idea that Blade Runner is what 2122 looks like in the Alien series based on the existing statements. Merging them actually retcons quite a bit of lore. Like, the Moon and Mars being colonised in the 1990s if we follow the role-playing game. I'm certain that this comic didn't make those connections by accident though. To be honest, I can reconcile The Predator timeline in my head as long as it doesn't show an existing megacity like Los Angeles looking like our modern day version of it. It'd make me pull my hair out trying to make sense of it all.
If I included novels then I'd include basically as many as I possibly could... which includes adaptations of the comics... they only explain that Ripley in Aliens vol. 3 is an android in the novel version which sucks because if you read the canon version of the story you'd have no idea how Ripley is alive in the 2190s. That's a ton of stuff that I'd rather worry about after the comics at least.
I'd also like to cover alternate timelines eventually, such as Alien: The Original Screenplay, Alien 3: The Original Screenplay, and all the crossover comics.
