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Another one to joke about.
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Jim_Hopperhttps://strangerthings.fandom.com/wiki/Jim_Hopper
"We have a small version of that. I think, in Predator, the guy that Arnold is searching for is named Jim Hopper. And he's like all skinned and killed by the Predator. So that's our version. Stranger Things is just one elaborate Predator prequel." [...] "At the end of the show – I mean, he's hunting monsters now – so the government's like hey, you need to go to the jungle, and he gets killed and then that's it. So that's where we're headed."
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The last season is set in fall of 1987. Predator is, according to Hunting Grounds, set in September 1987. Could you imagine how hilarious that would be? And Alien would have been huge in the 80s, but no references to it as fiction as far as I'm aware.
 
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The Duffer Brothers said it on a Nerdist podcast, though it's disappeared and I couldn't find it on archive. I promise you I saw the Nerdist article when it first went up.
 
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Pro Bot said:
Another one to joke about.
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Jim_Hopperhttps://strangerthings.fandom.com/wiki/Jim_Hopper
The last season is set in fall of 1987. Predator is, according to Hunting Grounds, set in September 1987. Could you imagine how hilarious that would be? And Alien would have been huge in the 80s, but no references to it as fiction as far as I'm aware.
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This really shows how any major franchise past and present can possibly be connected to the Marvel or DC multiverses in a way
 
I think my main issue with the original Death Race 2000 continuity is that there's one leader for the whole world in Mr. President, and there has been for a long time. I don't think that contradicts anything on the timeline at the moment though. It would contradict Independence Day though since there's a US President.
 
I think I was mistaken. For some reason I remember reading something, but nah, Mr. President runs the UPA only. That honestly works better since, if we're counting Death Race 2008 onwards, the USA would be reinstated after Frankenstein abolished the Death Race. I mean, sure, the expanded settings of Alien, Predator and Terminator probably has the USA existing over the UPA, but it's not too bad counting only the on-screen occurrences in 2000.
 
...well, problem with that. Death Race 2020 suggests that Frankenstein stayed the president up to the year 2020. Hm... maybe he became president again between 2000 and 2020? As long as the events in the comic happen, we can fill in the gaps even if it wouldn't normally make sense.

Honestly, I'd toss the 2000/2020/2050 timeline and focus on the 2008/2/3/4 series, since those connect to AVP and the 2000 series doesn't... but it's up to you, I mean, you might be able to make it work if you're creative enough.

America changing flags actually happens in the Alien future anyway.
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/United_Americas
 
It's probably because it was confirmed non-canon, but no one has mentioned Raised by Wolves yet? It's a Ridley Scott-related series with androids that have white blood in it.

Here's some relevant quotes about it.

Aaron Guzikowski
"Ridley has been working with these sorts of themes for a good long time now, starting with Alien and then Blade Runner. So I think there's a thematic connection. He directed the first two episodes; he was intimately involved in the entire production. So there was a lot of exchange of DNA between a lot of the mythologies that Ridley has established in the past and this new story. But I think a lot of the rules that apply to these androids and a lot of the questions that they bring up, are similar to going as far back to Ash from Alien."
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"I think in some ways it continues on some aesthetics that Ridley's established in some of his previous films. In this series, he's evolved into just transmogrifying these ideas into things people haven't necessarily seen yet, But there is sort of a continuity, in terms of just the visuals in Alien and Blade Runner, Alien Covenant, in terms of the way they've imagined what an alien planet could look like, to the androids and even some of the H.R. Giger type of design stuff - all of that is in there. But in addition to that, it's kind of evolved into a new stage of trying to look into the future. Now that we're kind of already in a science fiction future, coming up with this stuff just takes on a different sort of process. I think it has the DNA of Ridley's previous work, but he's evolving into some new stuff that we haven't seen yet."
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"Obviously, I was hugely influenced by all of [Scott's] work, Prometheus included, for sure, and when I first met with him, we talked all about it. But there was never any concern with him in terms of how it was going to connect to his other stuff. He more wanted to just kind of take it for what it was. And obviously, there's a lot of homages to the other stuff he's worked on, I mean, because he's built this whole visual vocabulary in terms of modern science fiction. So, it was interesting, but we never talked about how specifically the series would fit into that mythology, nor was that really ever the goal. It's a close cousin, and it can kind of sit alongside it, but technically speaking, the mythologies don't link up, necessarily."
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Ridley Scott
"Interesting question but, no. the first Alien story feels like it may be some time before Raised By Wolves, in that the Nostromo was probably financed by an organised global economy. Wolves is about post-global war chaos."
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I love that Ridley Scott confirmed it's not the same universe as Alien... and then said that Raised by Wolves is set after Alien.
 
Pro Bot said:
Another one to joke about.
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Jim_Hopperhttps://strangerthings.fandom.com/wiki/Jim_Hopper
The last season is set in fall of 1987. Predator is, according to Hunting Grounds, set in September 1987. Could you imagine how hilarious that would be? And Alien would have been huge in the 80s, but no references to it as fiction as far as I'm aware.
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So if the final season DOES end with ST Jim heading to a jungle... does that make it canon to the AvP timeline?
 
JudgeDreddpool said:
So if the final season DOES end with ST Jim heading to a jungle... does that make it canon to the AvP timeline?
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Well I'll be totally honest, i'm not very informed on the AVP connections with other brands, aside the basics ones, so IDK for sure, @Pro Bot is way expert on this field by me.

But if I would give one answer I would say yes since it looks like it fits so well.
 
Alien, Predator, Blade Runner, Soldier, Terminator, RoboCop, Outland, Underwater, Death Race, Firefly, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I, Robot, Independence Day, Raised by Wolves, T.R. Baskin, Capricorn One, Narrow Margin, A Sound of Thunder, Executive Decision, Event Horizon, Die Hard, Commando, Supercarrier, Adventure Inc., Sheena, Ricochet, Loaded Weapon 1, Chuck, The Rig, Stranger Things


Those were all I found that y'all connected across threads
 
Zeitschiene said:
Alien, Predator, Blade Runner, Soldier, Terminator, RoboCop, Outland, Underwater, Death Race, Firefly, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I, Robot, Independence Day, Raised by Wolves, T.R. Baskin, Capricorn One, Narrow Margin, A Sound of Thunder, Executive Decision, Event Horizon, Die Hard, Commando, Supercarrier, Adventure Inc., Sheena, Ricochet, Loaded Weapon 1, Chuck, The Rig, Stranger Things


Those were all I found that y'all connected across threads
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And the MCU (thus the Marvel Multiverse) via Nakatoma Plaza being in the Void in Deadpool & Wolverine. Well, the Marvel Multiverse was already connected due to Alien having a designation
 
Zeitschiene said:
Alien, Predator, Blade Runner, Soldier, Terminator, RoboCop, Outland, Underwater, Death Race, Firefly, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I, Robot, Independence Day, Raised by Wolves, T.R. Baskin, Capricorn One, Narrow Margin, A Sound of Thunder, Executive Decision, Event Horizon, Die Hard, Commando, Supercarrier, Adventure Inc., Sheena, Ricochet, Loaded Weapon 1, Chuck, The Rig, Stranger Things


Those were all I found that y'all connected across threads
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Don't forget Far Cry (and the wider Ubisoft Universe) due to the fact the Upside Down is featured in a DLC
 
Zeitschiene said:
Alien, Predator, Blade Runner, Soldier, Terminator, RoboCop, Outland, Underwater, Death Race, Firefly, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I, Robot, Independence Day, Raised by Wolves, T.R. Baskin, Capricorn One, Narrow Margin, A Sound of Thunder, Executive Decision, Event Horizon, Die Hard, Commando, Supercarrier, Adventure Inc., Sheena, Ricochet, Loaded Weapon 1, Chuck, The Rig, Stranger Things


Those were all I found that y'all connected across threads
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Pretty sure Blade Runner is referenced as fiction in Chuck. Then again, so is Die Hard and it's literally in the Die Hard canon.
 
JudgeDreddpool said:
So if the final season DOES end with ST Jim heading to a jungle... does that make it canon to the AvP timeline?
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IF it does, then yes. I would say so. Could you imagine watching that in chronological order with no idea? You love Jim Hopper and then he becomes a corpse.
 
And Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles because Stranger Things had a crossover comic, along with Call of Duty Ninja Turtle skins for Warzone and Power Rangers having a crossover with TMNT as well
 
Well well, hold on. The Stranger Things universe versions of TMNT are based on the Mirage comics. I would argue that they're not the same versions since it only directly connects to Stranger Things lore, but still.

I mean, technically you can say that TMNT, Marvel, DC and (including Terminator) Transformers characters exist in the AVP world if all those elements line up.
 
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Well well, hold on. The Stranger Things universe versions of TMNT are based on the Mirage comics. I would argue that they're not the same versions since it only directly connects to Stranger Things lore, but still.

I mean, technically you can say that TMNT, Marvel, DC and (including Terminator) Transformers characters exist in the AVP world if all those elements line up.
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What's the Transformers connection?
 
Zeitschiene said:
Alien, Predator, Blade Runner, Soldier, Terminator, RoboCop, Outland, Underwater, Death Race, Firefly, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, I, Robot, Independence Day, Raised by Wolves, T.R. Baskin, Capricorn One, Narrow Margin, A Sound of Thunder, Executive Decision, Event Horizon, Die Hard, Commando, Supercarrier, Adventure Inc., Sheena, Ricochet, Loaded Weapon 1, Chuck, The Rig, Stranger Things


Those were all I found that y'all connected across threads
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Some people throw in Wayne's World and Last Action Hero because of the T-1000, but he was called "Bad Cop" in the credits of Wayne's World and wasn't actually holding a picture of John Connor. In the latter, Terminator is a piece of fiction starring Sylvester Stallone. Then again, if we're discounting those joke cameos, perhaps we should discount Loaded Weapon 1 too.
 
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Well well, hold on. The Stranger Things universe versions of TMNT are based on the Mirage comics. I would argue that they're not the same versions since it only directly connects to Stranger Things lore, but still.

I mean, technically you can say that TMNT, Marvel, DC and (including Terminator) Transformers characters exist in the AVP world if all those elements line up.
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I know they aren't the same versions, what I meant was the lore itself is the connection
 
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Some people throw in Wayne's World and Last Action Hero because of the T-1000, but he was called "Bad Cop" in the credits of Wayne's World and wasn't actually holding a picture of John Connor. In the latter, Terminator is a piece of fiction Sylvester Stallone. Then again, if we're discounting those jokes cameos, perhaps we should discount Loaded Weapon 1 too.
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What if Skynet sent another T1000 back
 

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