Marvel Cinematic Universe - Timeline (Part 5)

[selfishmisery]

Erm, on October 16, obviously, you gotta take the midpoint of the dates :nerd: :fingerup:

I know you're joking, but I'm also learning towards October. Especially since Thunderbolts is 14 months before Doomsday - plus Doomsday and Secret Wars (plus the unknown one in 2028) are all to be released in December.

 

[Assasin]

I know you're joking, but I'm also learning towards October. Especially since Thunderbolts is 14 months before Doomsday - plus Doomsday and Secret Wars (plus the unknown one in 2028) are all to be released in December.

it seems like someone made up a temporary branch for thunderbolts in the last part, look there.

 

[selfishmisery]

it seems like someone made up a temporary branch for thunderbolts in the last part, look there.

Huh?

 

[Assasin]

Huh?

I'll look for it now. And I'm sorry if I'm not writing correctly, I don't know English well.

 

[selfishmisery]

I'll look for it now. And I'm sorry if I'm not writing correctly, I don't know English well.

Oh okay.

I can't add it if it's not confirmed. It needs evidence, onscreen or official word.

 

[Assasin]

Oh okay.

I can't add it if it's not confirmed. It needs evidence, onscreen or official word.

Well, I found it, maybe it will help in the future.

Destruction of the O.X.E. Kuala Lumpur Research Facility - October 25, 2027

Battle at the O.X.E. Vault. Escape from the O.X.E. Vault - October 26, 2027

Chase of Red Guardian's Limousine - October 27, 2027

Battle at the Watchtower. Attack on Manhattan. Liberation of Bob Reynolds - October 28, 2027

Post-Credits scene 1 (Red Guardian in supermarket) - December 27, 2028

Post-Credits scene 2 (Doomsday) - December 28, 2028

 

[selfishmisery]

Well, I found it, maybe it will help in the future.

Destruction of the O.X.E. Kuala Lumpur Research Facility - October 25, 2027

Battle at the O.X.E. Vault. Escape from the O.X.E. Vault - October 26, 2027

Chase of Red Guardian's Limousine - October 27, 2027

Battle at the Watchtower. Attack on Manhattan. Liberation of Bob Reynolds - October 28, 2027

Post-Credits scene 1 (Red Guardian in supermarket) - December 27, 2028

Post-Credits scene 2 (Doomsday) - December 28, 2028

Thanks.

There's concept art for the gala that says "15th anniversary" - but that isn't in the final film.

 

[selfishmisery]

Thanks.

There's concept art for the gala that says "15th anniversary" - but that isn't in the final film.

Yeah in the final version it's "honoring the heroes" instead of "15th anniversary".

So maybe that aligns with Endgame and the death of Thanos and his army in October - 4 years prior?

Can't say for sure. It still says Battle of New York at the bottom so could be a random date still. Hmm...

 

[selfishmisery]

Speaking of Endgame:

 

[Assasin]

Yeah in the final version it's "honoring the heroes" instead of "15th anniversary".

So maybe that aligns with Endgame and the death of Thanos and his army in October - 4 years prior? View attachment 3647

Can't say for sure. It still says Battle of New York at the bottom so could be a random date still. Hmm...

The Battle for New York It was May 4, 2012 - these are the events of the first Avengers

 

[selfishmisery]

The Battle for New York It was May 4, 2012 - these are the events of the first Avengers

Yeah I know, I meant it couldn't be related to that.

The fall foliage on the trees seen in Thunderbolts + the "HONORING" statement on the gala posters more-so imply the anniversary of Endgame rather than the original Avengers.

But again, no evidence. So either way doesn't matter.

 

[woodlark_289]

I know you're joking, but I'm also learning towards October. Especially since Thunderbolts is 14 months before Doomsday - plus Doomsday and Secret Wars (plus the unknown one in 2028) are all to be released in December.

i agree, especially with the release date moving to december; we will hopefully be able to find a clear date somewhere when thunderbolts is released on digital next month but as of now i think oct 27 (fall trees, still the 15th year after the battle of new york) with doomsday picking up in dec 28

 

[woodlark_289]

I saw someone bring up an interesting concept...might be too ambitious but

Secret Wars - Part 2

I'm imagining that like Doomsday has an Infinity War type cliffhanger... but the Secret Wars ends with an even bigger one - then you get the final chapter in 2028. I like this theory, it would allow more room for the storyline, character growth and probably budget as well.

was thinking it could be this as well
- 12/26 - doomsday
- 12/27 - time runs out
- 12/28 - secret wars

alternatively i can see dr strange 3 being subtitled time runs out and taking the july 27 spot; i also won't be shocked if marvel removes the nov 28 date, i think that would be the closest window between two mcu releases to date

 

[selfishmisery]

Formatting is fixed/done.

Any other changes to the timeline itself?

 

[selfishmisery]

Missing stuff:
Viewing/reading order is not updated to match timeline in first post (timeline):
1) Runaways position is still old one (S3x05-10 should be pre-Infinity War, S1+S2+S3x01-04 before Ragnarok)
2) Defenders positions is still old one
simplified should be based on timeline in first post (=pre-civil war, in viewing order it is still post-civil war -> that mean rearagement of viewing order of AoS S3 + WHIH per main post with timeline)
AoS 3x11-18
WHIH S2
Defenders
AoS 3x19
CA:CW

3) Luke Cage S1 x AoS S3 overlap is still old one (viewing order)
Should be
LC 1x01-05
AoS 3x04-08
LC 1x06-13
AoS 3x09-10

I need a neater way explaining what needs to be changed here.

 

[woodlark_289]

Formatting is fixed/done.

Any other changes to the timeline itself?

sorry i seem stuck on this point but why is the 2018 branch of loki 1x6 when renslayer is a teacher considered sacred timeline?

 

[selfishmisery]

sorry i seem stuck on this point but why is the 2018 branch of loki 1x6 when renslayer is a teacher considered sacred timeline?

I guess I can label it as that.

 

[woodlark_289]

I guess I can label it as that.

no need to change it simply on my account i just want to make sure i am not incorrect in saying that

 

[Frizzy]

sorry i seem stuck on this point but why is the 2018 branch of loki 1x6 when renslayer is a teacher considered sacred timeline?

hmm... I double checked the wiki and they seem to have listed it as a branched reality on the episode description but never actually created a TRN or anything like that. I can request for one if you want.

Btw @selfishmisery I can search for all the different TRNs that should be in place of stuff like "Patch Wolverine Earth" and "Cavillrine Earth" if you want. Btw thanks for continuing and maintaining the timeline, I'm glad someone stepped up in the mean time even if Soya comes back.

 

[selfishmisery]

hmm... I double checked the wiki and they seem to have listed it as a branched reality on the episode description but never actually created a TRN or anything like that. I can request for one if you want.

Btw @selfishmisery I can search for all the different TRNs that should be in place of stuff like "Patch Wolverine Earth" and "Cavillrine Earth" if you want. Btw thanks for continuing and maintaining the timeline, I'm glad someone stepped up in the mean time even if Soya comes back.

Thanks I appreciate it

 

[myusernameyes]

hmm... I double checked the wiki and they seem to have listed it as a branched reality on the episode description but never actually created a TRN or anything like that. I can request for one if you want.

Btw @selfishmisery I can search for all the different TRNs that should be in place of stuff like "Patch Wolverine Earth" and "Cavillrine Earth" if you want. Btw thanks for continuing and maintaining the timeline, I'm glad someone stepped up in the mean time even if Soya comes back.

The Marvel Database doesn't add trns to realities that not only don't have numbers but also don't have as much of a significance
Is it that significant as much as the other branches that were folded into one trn?

 

[Frizzy]

The Marvel Database doesn't add trns to realities that not only don't have numbers but also don't have as much of a significance

I know what you mean, but they did add a lot of TRNs for Loki, like TRNs for the different Loki variants that appeared in a handful of episodes, and different locations that are featured for an episode or less. Some of those locations don't have specific numbers but are said/referenced as diverged realities/branches in the show.

The Marvel Database doesn't add trns to realities that not only don't have numbers but also don't have as much of a significance
Is it that significant as much as the other branches that were folded into one trn?

Which branches are you taking about that were folded into one TRN?

 

[myusernameyes]

The branches that the variants of other TVA workers were in that are hypothesized to either be branches or one reality
I worded it wrong I suppose
Again

 

[Frizzy]

The branches that the variants of other TVA workers were in that are hypothesized to either be branches or one reality
I worded it wrong I suppose
Again

Oh yeah, I know what you mean. Its kinda weird though cause Loki goes to different places through the tempad thing (which is normally always to another reality/branch) and takes them to this one universe, which would make it seem as though they came from branches, which the wiki lists on the episode description but then merges these TVA worker variants into one universe. Im unsure what should happen with these but I'm gonna ask the wiki if they will make TRNs for these branches or why they didnt make them already.

 

[Frizzy]

@selfishmisery here are the TRNs for Deadpool and Wolverine in the "End of Time" section. Most of the other TRNs and alternate universes have already been done. There are a few What If ones that I need to go over and the Loki ones will be until the wiki responds. But anyway:

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:28:30 - 0:28:59) [Comic Accurate Short Logan Earth]
--Earth-TRN1393

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:00 - 0:29:11) [Age of Apocalypse Earth]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:55 - 0:29:59) [Age of Apocalypse Earth]
--Earth-TRN1394

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:12 - 0:29:17) [Patch Earth]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:53 - 0:29:54) [Patch Earth]
--Earth-TRN1395

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:27 - 0:29:34) [Old Man Logan Earth]
--Earth-TRN1397

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:35 - 0:29:40) [Crucified Wolverine Earth]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:00 - 0:30:04) [Crucified Wolverine Earth]
--Earth-TRN1396

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:41 - 0:29:52) [Hulk vs Wolverine Earth]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:07 - 0:30:08) [Hulk vs Wolverine Earth]
--Earth-TRN1398

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:18 - 0:29:26) [Cavillrine Earth]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:09 - 0:30:28) [Cavillrine Earth]
--Earth-TRN1399

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:29 - 0:32:00) [Failure Wolverine Earth]
--Earth-TRN1400

 

[ThoughtTie24110]

PUNISHER IS COMING BACK IN BRAND NEW DAY LFGGGG

 

[BabyBomber]

Astounded that the rumor of Punisher and Spidey teaming up to fight Hulk (Joe Fixit?) is panning out

 

[selfishmisery]

@selfishmisery here are the TRNs for Deadpool and Wolverine in the "End of Time" section. Most of the other TRNs and alternate universes have already been done. There are a few What If ones that I need to go over and the Loki ones will be until the wiki responds. But anyway:

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:28:30 - 0:28:59) [Comic Accurate Short Logan Earth]
--Earth-TRN1393

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:00 - 0:29:11) [Age of Apocalypse Earth]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:55 - 0:29:59) [Age of Apocalypse Earth]
--Earth-TRN1394

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:12 - 0:29:17) [Patch Earth]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:53 - 0:29:54) [Patch Earth]
--Earth-TRN1395

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:27 - 0:29:34) [Old Man Logan Earth]
--Earth-TRN1397

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:35 - 0:29:40) [Crucified Wolverine Earth]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:00 - 0:30:04) [Crucified Wolverine Earth]
--Earth-TRN1396

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:41 - 0:29:52) [Hulk vs Wolverine Earth]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:07 - 0:30:08) [Hulk vs Wolverine Earth]
--Earth-TRN1398

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:29:18 - 0:29:26) [Cavillrine Earth]
Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:09 - 0:30:28) [Cavillrine Earth]
--Earth-TRN1399

Deadpool & Wolverine Chapter 5 (0:30:29 - 0:32:00) [Failure Wolverine Earth]
--Earth-TRN1400

Thinking about it more - I'll probably not put the TRNs for those timestamps only because part of the gag is the specific versions of Logan and making it a temporary reality number for each makes it far more difficult for others to pinpoint.

If a reality number is given to all of them, then I can change it.
So these are an exception.

 

[selfishmisery]

I might change [Earth-10005] to quotations a la ["Earth-10005"] because even if they labeled it that, reality numbers do change even if the timeline is completely rewritten.

Example:
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Earth-2099

 

[Kulurak]

I need a neater way explaining what needs to be changed here.

So basically viewing order is not updated to match order in first post in following 2 things, after they were rearranged:

1) Runaways
currently are like this in viewing order

But they should be moved earlier like in first post (as we moved them in first post to be fully pre-Infinity War (second half of Runaways S3 after timejump), there they in first post like:
DD S3
Runaways S01E01-S02E01
C&D S02E01-S02E10
Runaways S02E02-S03E04
AoS S05E01-S05E10
Ragnarok

+ second half of S3 (E05-E10) needs to be moved in viewing order after AM&TW, pre-Infinity War like in first post
right now in viewing order second half of S3 is post-Infinity War

2) AoS S3 + LC S1 + IF S1 + Defenders
viewing order: (outdated order)


But in timeline in first post we already updated its position and viewing order should match it:
AoS 3x01-3x03 (correct)
DD 2x07-2x13 (correct)
LC 1x01-1x05 (need to be updated)
AoS 3x04-3x08 (correct)
LC 1x06-1x13 (need to be updated)
....
AoS 3x09-3x10 (correct)
Iron Fist 1x01-1x13
AoS 3x11-3x18 (E11-E18 need to be after Iron First S1 in viewing order to match timeline in first post)
The Defenders 1x01-1x08 (should be before AoS 3x19)
AoS 3x19 (E19 is in main timeline after Defenders S1)