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Imagine a timeline for the Pretty Little Liars/Riverdale-Verse? It'd be... pretty long, I think.

Pretty Little Liars (2010)
Ravenswood
Riverdale
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina
Pretty Little Liars: The Perfectionists
Katy Keene
Pretty Little Liars (2022)
I've been working on this actually! Mostly just a little side project but I originally just started out focusing on the CW Archieverse stuff and then when PLL was brought in I had to go rewatch that whole franchise for timestamps. The time jump in PLL takes place the same time as the first few seasons of Riverdale so it's been fun working that out along with the tie in comics and novels. The supernatural stuff in Ravenswood and CAOS are surprisingly similar too so it's not a far fetched connection. I'll probably post it when i'm eventually done.
 
I've been working on this actually! Mostly just a little side project but I originally just started out focusing on the CW Archieverse stuff and then when PLL was brought in I had to go rewatch that whole franchise for timestamps. The time jump in PLL takes place the same time as the first few seasons of Riverdale so it's been fun working that out along with the tie in comics and novels. The supernatural stuff in Ravenswood and CAOS are surprisingly similar too so it's not a far fetched connection. I'll probably post it when i'm eventually done.
That's so cool! I can't wait for that.
 
I meant that I don't think Benthic Petroleum is even in Terminator 2. That isn't even the same logo. It looks like the Thorn logo (the real one, not Halloween). Even with the same director, the very fact it's not the exact same logo makes me consider it separate.
As a logo for a fictional petroleum company... it's too close/prominent to be a coincedence.

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MATTSON TOMLIN: It just felt the most clear. It's kind of the thing that as a baseline, fans know, August 29th, 1997, okay, yeah, got it. People generally love the first two movies. You get into, I think, Genisys, how it starts to move Judgment Day. I know Terminator 3, it kind of gets postponed a few times. There's something about that, for me, where I go, fine, valid. When you get to, I wanna say, episode seven of Terminator Zero, for the people who really need to understand where in the timeline are we, like what's canon, what's not, there's a moment that's going to give those people what they want as far as an answer. But for me, it really just came down to, what's the most primal, elemental thing, and I think the first two movies set up the concept of Judgment Day so clearly, and then we kind of skip it. And for me, going into working on this show, it just kind of felt like we've seen Judgment Day in flashback, flashfoward, in dreams, in visions. We've never lived through it. We've never been on the ground, we've never been in ground zero of it. And so, that for me, felt like this is new territory to go into, and it's hard to find new territory for something that's forty years old.

Episode 7:
By the time I was a man, we began this ridiculous war. Skynet would send a Terminator back in time. The Resistance would send a soldier back in time. "Kill so-and-so, and change the outcome of the war." It was so small-minded. There were dozens of saviors in the seas of the past. Kill one [John Connor?], another rises.

Do you think this makes Terminator Zero the latest movie/show in the timeline?
 


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Do you think this makes Terminator Zero the latest movie/show in the timeline?
This could make Zero mean not zero as before 1, but STARTING from Zero.

This statement leans towards the theory of reset we've discussed in DMs, Pro Bot.
 
I really appreciate that The Sarah Connor Chronicles tries to tell us that John Connor was born on November 14th, 1983 and that Terminator 2 happened in June 1997 repeatedly...

I mean, as I've said, I'm more willing to ignore all that. Miles Dyson died in 1997 in an explosion at Cyberdyne Systems? Noooo... the characters are mistaken. Sarah escaped on June 8th, 1997? Wrong, it was June 8th, 1995. John thinks he's 16 and born on November 14th? Actually, nope. He's just an idiot who somehow forgot his own birthday and no one corrects him.

I'd rather do that than try and say it's set in a timeline where The Terminator is set in 1983 and Terminator 2 is 1997 because that just feels messy. Also, the whole thing with Sarah having cancer works better with the idea that it's set after Terminator 3, so she's trying to prevent her fate (this retcons the gravestone in Terminator 3 but still).
 
Ok guys, since this timeline is based on the famous theory I discussed with Pro Bot in our DMs of how the terminator universe works I think it's correct if I give you the instruments to understand the resonings. (P.S. Me and Pro Bot needs to figure Genesys' placement out)

So In my views the multiverse and the "one timeline that changes always" are both wrong, my theory is that the present of every terminator media is always the present, so keeping it simple for you guys: The Terminator (1984) --> Terminator 2 (1995) --> Terminator 3 (2004) --> Salvation (2018) --> Dark Fate (2020).

The future war always changes but it follows the previous installment's future war according to the events of the present, and newer encounters with skynet that makes young Connor more experienced in the future than before, and as well with the remnants left behind Skynet gets more advanced, so moving JD foreward in time. So, Terminator 1 and 2 (2029) --> Terminator 3 (2032) --> Dark Fate (2042), and also thanks to all the time travels, the FW become smt separated like marvel's DOFP. With the FW being kind of a bubble on its own that has an effect on the present.

When everything changes? When Connor dies, if my calculations are correct we're in the 2060s in the future war from RoboCop Kill human, so def Connor died of old age, and without his guidence the resistance basically fell. When Robo goes back in time, connor gets killed resetting everything.

Skynet would be resetted to terminator 1 status, as RoboCop eliminated everything past-1995. While Connor won't exist. This scenario leeds to the future war from Transformers, and to the events set in 1984, resetting even further, as the Autobots leave the planet with the remnants of the terminator, making skynet's creation slide further in time, and Sarah's future son (def not with kyle) would still be trained to fight machines, this made a real shift in the war, for the first time humanity have the advantage over Skynet, and when they attack (probably in 2029) the war could be a skirms, and so the defeat of skynet once and for all, as stated in the Alien vs. Predator vs. Terminator comics, making it the real ending of the war.

Explained in a very vague way, but I hope it is understood.
 
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talking about this, so we consider Terminator Zero a prequel or a sequel?
It could go either way, but in any case, Terminator: Genisys set Judgement Day back in 1997. I consider that to be after Salvation/The Sarah Connor Chronicles personally, so for me, that shows that Judgement Day can go back.

You actually explained it perfectly, too. Of course if someone goes back in time to before 1995, they can change the events of Terminator 2 and make Judgement Day happen in 1997 again.
 
It could go either way, but in any case, Terminator: Genisys set Judgement Day back in 1997. I consider that to be after Salvation/The Sarah Connor Chronicles personally, so for me, that shows that Judgement Day can go back.

You actually explained it perfectly, too. Of course if someone goes back in time to before 1995, they can change the events of Terminator 2 and make Judgement Day happen in 1997 again.
for Zero I personally lean more for a prequel. But Idk how strong the reference to Connor is.
 
Judgment Day did get pushed back in that movie of course, but it started in 1997. That film was kind of a take on the original future war.
the future war is a can of worms of it's own. I heard that Dawn of Fate happens in 2027 but ends with Kyle time traveling. I never played that game, but if it's true we could use your resonings for the SCC and just take that as an error and place it alongside the NOW Comics Prologue, 2029 (game and comics) and Resistance. I think it would look good.

Also Idk if you were thinking about doing this too for your Terminator thread, but I'm thinking for my own headcanon timeline to separate the future war into it's own timeline.
 
for Zero I personally lean more for a prequel. But Idk how strong the reference to Connor is.
I like prequel more personally, but still.

I like the idea that we can base the chronology on Judgement Day mostly. It kind or makes it feel like a proper war.

1997
Terminator Zero
The Terminator
Terminator 2: Judgement Day

2004
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
Terminator: Salvation

2011
Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles

(1997 ->) 2017
Terminator: Genisys

202X
Terminator: Dark Fate
 
You also have Kamen Rider to add in with all the crossovers.
The Power Rangers universe includes Masked Rider (and Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation, for that matter). I have no idea if that series crossed over with any of the other Kamen Rider shows through the multiverse or something.
 
If you count all the crossovers as canon, the AvPvTvBvRvBR-etc. universe includes DC, Marvel, Transformers, Buffy, and RoboCop, which is... pretty funny, honestly. The idea that Blade and Buffy could hunt vampires together is awesome.
 

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