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[user 16960]

Has anyone thought of doing a Planet of the Apes timeline?

Ye

I'm interested in how many timelines there are for the original films counting expanded universe material. I know that it's a closed loop, but I'm thinking about if certain comics don't fit with others. Are all the crossovers, like King Kong, Star Trek and Fantastic Four, able to fit with the other non-crossover comics? That's what I'm interested in.

Not too fussed about the reboots though. Sorry.

The comics all fit as far as I've gone through. The Star Trek one fits between the OG and Beneath with the last pages happening directly after Beneath (the enterprise crew see the destruction of Earth, and the Escape trio learn of how to go back in time due to something left behind by the star trek cast although that somewhat contradicts the time travel explanation the later Novels used like Conspiracy on the POTA.

King Kong also works mostly. It does take place over a long span of time and it may or may not fit with the February date the Marvel comics timeline gave Beneath (that February date is still canon because the Comic Con timeline 2 years ago used it

 

[user 16960]

Ye

The comics all fit as far as I've gone through. The Star Trek one fits between the OG and Beneath with the last pages happening directly after Beneath (the enterprise crew see the destruction of Earth, and the Escape trio learn of how to go back in time due to something left behind by the star trek cast although that somewhat contradicts the time travel explanation the later Novels used like Conspiracy on the POTA.

King Kong also works mostly. It does take place over a long span of time and it may or may not fit with the February date the Marvel comics timeline gave Beneath (that February date is still canon because the Comic Con timeline 2 years ago used it

The only comic that doesn't fit is the Green Lantern one because the atomic bomb gets turned into yellow lantern rings. Perhaps that's the final loop in the timeline and the true ending to the franchise? Doubt it though lol

 

[user 16960]

I haven't read the Fantastic Four crossover yet though.

Also for timelining POTA, make sure to check the screenplays for the film because there's a gap in time in the original film that we only get the exact amount of time that passed in the screenplay

 

[Pro Bot]

The only comic that doesn't fit is the Green Lantern one because the atomic bomb gets turned into yellow lantern rings. Perhaps that's the final loop in the timeline and the true ending to the franchise? Doubt it though lol

Oh, that's amazing actually.

 

[user 16960]

Oh, that's amazing actually.

The only problem is there's also the Gameboy game where the bomb is deactivated as well, so there's kinda 2 hard stopping points for the time loop, I guess you could just say the Gameboy one is noncanon *shrugs* it's a quasi adaptation of both films but with a different character and Taylor is also mentioned, he basically takes the place of the beneath protagonist, I guess it's ignorable

 

[Pro Bot]

Earth-7481 is the Planet of the Apes universe, apparently.

The only problem is there's also the Gameboy game where the bomb is deactivated as well, so there's kinda 2 hard stopping points for the time loop, I guess you could just say the Gameboy one is noncanon *shrugs* it's a quasi adaptation of both films but with a different character and Taylor is also mentioned, he basically takes the place of the beneath protagonist, I guess it's ignorable

Depends on if you go with there being more than one timeline or fixed events. I suppose it could easily be like Terminator, where it appears to look like fixed events but is actually several alternate realities.

 

[user 16960]

Earth-7481 is the Planet of the Apes universe, apparently.


Depends on if you go with there being more than one timeline or fixed events. I suppose it could easily be like Terminator, where it appears to look like fixed events but is actually several alternate realities.

Nah it's supposed to be a time loop, even in the GL comic they say it's a time loop that keeps going over and over

 

[iceman109]

Here's the dates the POTA RPG book use in for the dates of the first movie and Beneath

 

[user 16960]

Here's the dates the POTA RPG book use in for the dates of the first movie and BeneathView attachment 4701

Yeah that's just wrong unfortunately, Beneath the POTA is more often shown as being sometime in February

 

[user 16960]

Yeah that's just wrong unfortunately, Beneath the POTA is more often shown as being sometime in February

These also contradict the time passing in the first movie as well

 

[iceman109]

How much time passed between them?

 

[user 16960]

How much time passed between them?

About a month passes during POTA 1 and then Beneath takes place like somewhere around 50 something days, I forgot the exact number, the Kong crossover dated most of the days passing and it was a big number like that and there's also a couple days that past after they stop recording the time passing

 

[iceman109]

What about that picture of 2503 New York in the tv show if it's a closed loop? This is assuming that the tv show is set in the same timeline as the movies, although the book also states that the backstory the psychically imprinted bust of Mendez the First has is different than the backstory of Mendez the First in the Book of Simian Prophecy

 

[Pro Bot]

I believe that the TV show is counted in an official timeline somewhere.

 

[Pro Bot]

https://planetoftheapes.fandom.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes:_Tales_from_the_Forbidden_Zone
This may or may not canonize the animated show, too.

 

[iceman109]

One of the writers of the RPG says that Return is the future of the timeline created by Escape https://roguereviewer.wordpress.com/2024/07/03/the-canon-of-the-planet-of-the-apes/

 

[user 16960]

Thttps://planetoftheapes.fandom.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes:_Tales_from_the_Forbidden_Zone
This may or may not canonize the animated show, too.

To me the timeline goes

Timeline 1
Reboot 1st film
Tim Burton film
2nd 3rd reboot films
4th reboot film
Tv show
Original 2 films

Timeline 2
The 3 last original films

Timeline 3
Possibly the original 2 films again(?)

Timeline 4

Animated series

Timeline 5

Green Lantern comic

 

[iceman109]

The remake and reboot are completely unrelated though

 

[iceman109]

To me the timeline goes

Timeline 1
Reboot 1st film
Tim Burton film
2nd 3rd reboot films
4th reboot film
Tv show
Original 2 films

Timeline 2
The 3 last original films

Timeline 3
Possibly the original 2 films again(?)

Timeline 4

Animated series

Timeline 5

Green Lantern comic

What about the King Kong and Star Trek crossovers

 

[user 16960]

What about the King Kong and Star Trek crossovers

Those both go inb-between the original and beneath films, I just didn't mention them because they weren't important to the timeline alterations

 

[user 16960]

Those both go inb-between the original and beneath films, I just didn't mention them because they weren't important to the timeline alterations

I will say there are alternate timelines to this universe though. The Tarzan crossover is an alternate timeline and the characters see the main timeline at one point

I believe one of the novels feature a scene during the time Zira and Cornelius are time travelling before Escape from the POTA and they see an infinite amount of identical ships meaning a bunch of alternate timelines are splitting off there or something

 

[iceman109]

Do you remember which novel

 

[user 16960]

Do you remember which novel

No it was one of the ones made by the consultant guy on the RPG (same guy who tried to decanonize the AVP expanded universe lol)

 

[iceman109]

No it was one of the ones made by the consultant guy on the RPG (same guy who tried to decanonize the AVP expanded universe lol)

I like his work, except when he did that

 

[iceman109]

No it was one of the ones made by the consultant guy on the RPG (same guy who tried to decanonize the AVP expanded universe lol)

Is it called Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes?

 

[user 16960]

Is it called Conspiracy of the Planet of the Apes?

Yes and there's a Sequel I forgot the name

 

[user 16960]

Yes and there's a Sequel I forgot the name

I think the sequel has the time travel stuff

 

[iceman109]

Death of the Planet of the Apes

 

[iceman109]

I think the sequel has the time travel stuff

What year will Battle for the Planet of the Apes be set in your timeline?

 

[user 16960]

What year will Battle for the Planet of the Apes be set in your timeline?

I don't have time to look over it right now