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[Pro Bot]

In the Planet of the Apes tv series, this picture appears. Wouldn't it also fit better in a timeline that doesn't include the reboots (3-5)? Humanity goes on for longer in that reality.

 

[user 16960]

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In the Planet of the Apes tv series, this picture appears. Wouldn't it also fit better in a timeline that doesn't include the reboots (3-5)? Humanity goes on for longer in that reality.

That's now how Marvel Comics did the timeline so idk. I'd just assume something off screen happened that we don't know about

 

[user 16960]

AThe added text in the Comic Con timeline appears to be based on a ScreenRant article from 2019: https://web.archive.org/web/2019091...ant.com/planet-apes-movie-timeline-explained/

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Well I mean, they're both official obviously

 

[Pro Bot]

That's now how Marvel Comics did the timeline so idk. I'd just assume something off screen happened that we don't know about

Marvel seemed to take it in that direction on their personal official timeline. I think they went in a stable time loop direction.

 

[barryh]

Well I mean, they're both official obviously

The Comic Con one also flips the Original Timeline and Alternate Timeline colour codes, which doesn't make much sense.

 

[Pro Bot]

Yeah, that confuses the crap out of me. They obviously meant it the other way around though.

 

[barryh]

Yeah, that confuses the crap out of me. They obviously meant it the other way around though.

I think there's a few alternate timelines at play. Maybe that poster was a rush job for a Comic Con prop exhibit and not 100% reliable.

 

[user 16960]

The Comic Con one also flips the Original Timeline and Alternate Timeline colour codes, which doesn't make much sense.

That was definitely a mistake

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

I'm interested in how many timelines there are for the original films counting expanded universe material. I know that it's a closed loop, but I'm thinking about if certain comics don't fit with others. Are all the crossovers, like King Kong, Star Trek and Fantastic Four, able to fit with the other non-crossover comics? That's what I'm interested in.

Not too fussed about the reboots though. Sorry.

Aren't the Reboots a pretty easy timeline though?

 

[Pro Bot]

I think there's a few alternate timelines at play. Maybe that poster was a rush job for a Comic Con prop exhibit and not 100% reliable.

I could see the reboots being canon in many ways beyond as a direct prequel because of that. It's not as interesting but it has less continuity errors.

Aren't the Reboots a pretty easy timeline though?

Yeah. I just don't like them as much, fantastic as they are.

 

[Pro Bot]

I like how Beneath the Planet of the Apes is set after two crossovers with King Kong and Star Trek.

 

[iceman109]

Where does the 2001 movie fit in

 

[Pro Bot]

Where does the 2001 movie fit in

According to a somewhat official timeline, the remake is set after War for the Planet of the Apes... so, uh, none of the humans on the live call at the start wanted to tell him that they're one of the few remaining humans on the planet? And then he time travels to after the Earth exploded? So, I guess that implies a multiverse rather than a rewriting timeline (as is suggested by Marvel's Earth number)? Then the ending is a parallel timeline separate from the rest of the film created by the villain.

 

[iceman109]

The mission launched in 2029 well after society collapsed, the movie has to start in another timeline for it to work

 

[Pro Bot]

For now, if I had to combine everything, I'd do it like this.

2016 - Rise of the Planet of the Apes
2026 - Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
2028 - War for the Planet of the Apes
2328 - Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x01, "Escape from Tomorrow"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x02, "The Gladiators"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x03, "The Trap"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x04, "The Good Seeds"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x05, "The Legacy"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x06, "Tomorrow's Tide"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x07, "The Surgeon"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x08, "The Deception"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x09, "The Horse Race"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x10, "The Interrogation"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x11, "The Tyrant"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x12, "The Cure"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x13, "The Liberator"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x14, "Up Above the World So High"
3975 - Planet of the Apes (1968)
3975 - Beneath the Planet of the Apes
1973 - Escape from the Planet of the Apes
1991 - Conquest of the Planet of the Apes
2001 - Battle for the Planet of the Apes
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x01, "Flames of Doom"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x02, "Escape from Ape City"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x03, "The Unearthly Prophecy"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x04, "Tunnel of Fear"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x05, "Lagoon of Peril"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x06, "Terror on Ice Mountain"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x07, "River of Flames"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x08, "Screaming Wings"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x09, "Trail to the Unknown"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x10, "Attack from the Clouds"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x11, "Mission of Mercy"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x12, "Invasion of the Underdwellers"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x13, "Battle of the Titans"
5021 - Planet of the Apes (2001)

 

[JudgeDreddpool]

For now, if I had to combine everything, I'd do it like this.

2016 - Rise of the Planet of the Apes
2026 - Dawn of the Planet of the Apes
2028 - War for the Planet of the Apes
2328 - Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes
2975 - Planet of the Apes (1968)
2975 - Beneath the Planet of the Apes
1973 - Escape from the Planet of the Apes
1991 - Conquest of the Planet of the Apes
2001 - Battle for the Planet of the Apes
2029 - Planet of the Apes (2001)
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x01, "Escape from Tomorrow"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x02, "The Gladiators"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x03, "The Trap"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x04, "The Good Seeds"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x05, "The Legacy"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x06, "Tomorrow's Tide"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x07, "The Surgeon"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x08, "The Deception"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x09, "The Horse Race"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x10, "The Interrogation"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x11, "The Tyrant"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x12, "The Cure"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x13, "The Liberator"
3085 - Planet of the Apes 1x14, "Up Above the World So High"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x01, "Flames of Doom"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x02, "Escape from Ape City"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x03, "The Unearthly Prophecy"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x04, "Tunnel of Fear"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x05, "Lagoon of Peril"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x06, "Terror on Ice Mountain"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x07, "River of Flames"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x08, "Screaming Wings"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x09, "Trail to the Unknown"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x10, "Attack from the Clouds"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x11, "Mission of Mercy"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x12, "Invasion of the Underdwellers"
3979 - Return to the Planet of the Apes 1x13, "Battle of the Titans"

And the comics/video games? What of those?

 

[iceman109]

How did the mission launch in 2029 well after society collapsed then?

 

[user 16960]

According to a somewhat official timeline, the remake is set after War for the Planet of the Apes... so, uh, none of the humans on the live call at the start wanted to tell him that they're one of the few remaining humans on the planet? And then he time travels to after the Earth exploded? So, I guess that implies a multiverse rather than a rewriting timeline (as is suggested by Marvel's Earth number)? Then the ending is a parallel timeline separate from the rest of the film created by the villain.

Isn't the planet in 2001 an alien planet not Earth? So the earth being destroyed then doesn't matter. Also the Comic Con timeline retcons the film to be 2011 not 2091 or whatever so it fits before the reboot movies

 

[user 16960]

And the comics/video games? What of those?

There's too many to really include in a quick rundown like that. It's insane how many comics there are. If you want to see how ridiculous some of the titles in this franchise is there's a Marvel comic story called Kingdom on an Island of the Apes

 

[Pro Bot]

Isn't the planet in 2001 an alien planet not Earth? So the earth being destroyed then doesn't matter. Also the Comic Con timeline retcons the film to be 2011 not 2091 or whatever so it fits before the reboot movies

1. Yes, but all scenes set in that future are set in 5021.

2. The Comic-Con timeline places the start in 2029 and the alternate timeline ending in 2011, from mu understanding.

 

[iceman109]

The launch will have to be in an alternate timeline for it to work

 

[user 16960]

1. Yes, but all scenes set in that future are set in 5021.

2. The Comic-Con timeline places the start in 2029 and the alternate timeline ending in 2011, from mu understanding.

1. Yeah? The rest of the universe still exists

2. No it doesn't the full movie is in 2011 outside of the future which is undated on that timeline. The wraparounds are both 2011 there

 

[Pro Bot]

1. Yeah? The rest of the universe still exists

2. No it doesn't the full movie is in 2011 outside of the future which is undated on that timeline. The wraparounds are both 2011 there

 

[Pro Bot]

You might be able to barely get away with humans rebuilding New York in the 2500s in a timeline set after Kingdom, but it's harder to believe than in a reality where we don't see most humans die.

 

[iceman109]

But the Simian Flu rendered most humans primitive and mute

 

[Pro Bot]

Exactly my point.

 

[Pro Bot]

It'd be easier to buy that the reboot timeline eventually led to the original timeline if we're trying to avoid creating continuity issues.

 

[iceman109]

There's also the different backstories with their being a nuclear war

 

[Pro Bot]

Yep. The expanded universe certainly acknowledges this aspect if I recall. WW3 is the divergence point between the Star Trek and Planet of the Apes universes.

 

[Pro Bot]

You could argue that the comics are set in a reality where 3-5 led to versions of 1-2, of course.