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Classic Is an alternate Canon continuation. They have Major ties to the multiverse. G2, Classicverse and Regeneration One are all Canon, butt in different branches of the Marvel Comics Universe, so the Classicverse Is still a Marvel comics universe, as those stories are still in the universe's past.

Sinclair, my guy saying that the difference relies in the appearences of the cybertronias Is Like saying that each comic where Batman has a different suit Is another universe.

Tbh i personally see the DW Comics to be in the same universe as the G1 Cartoon as they fit perfecy, and we can give this universe a purpose rather than being a continuity that goes nowhere. (Ok this Is more headcanon, but Just to Say that i take what's show in the product than what the writer's intentions are).

You could Also Place Devastation too if you want in 2004 thanks to in-dialogue references. And for giving this universe a purpose.
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Classics is not canon to the OG Marvel series. So what they do there doesn't really tie in to the OG universe. It was a recently emerged splinter universe that was said to occupy the space of a GoBots universe and slowly replacing that reality.

None the less, Pete Sinclair says Wings Univese is a different reality.

For Dreamwave, there was an interview or smth where they confirmed it was a new universe and not Sunbow universe. I could probably find it if you want.

For Devastation, it is the best candidate to fit into the G1 cartoon out of the ones you mentioned. It is somewhat arguable. For what it's worth, there is a video from Gamespot or IGN reporting that Devastation takes place in the "Generations Universe" (could it be canon to the Combiner Wars show?).

Sunbow tie-in material that can easily be taken as canon:
* Madman Transformers comic (prequel to 86 movie)
* Rodimus vs Cyclonus tie-in comic (takes place during the 86 movie. There are some design changes for some characters from the 86 movie to sell the new toys, but I just chalk that up to artistic license and consider this canon)
* The recent Yolopark Cliffjumper comic with it revealing that Sunbow Cliffjumper survives to the end of the universe.
* Also, the live-action Powermaster Optimus Prime segments can also be considered canon. They were literally even a part of the OG show as Season 5.

Stuff that MAY be canon to Sunbow:
* Devastation game does take place in a G1 cartoon setting. Albeit I haven't seen any actual commentary from the creators.
* Mars Attacks Transformers crossover could be canon.
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"SHANE MCCARTHY: It wasn't too difficult once I found the tone I'd like to use when approaching the story. It could have gone a few different ways but I really wanted to go for all out fun. The only stipulation that was given to me by Carlos was that it would be set in the G1 universe, so I figured we could take that a step further and make it a real Mars Attacks Saturday Morning Cartoons. Mixing the two properties was a gold mine for humor, so it was a real pleasure to cut loose and find the fun in all of this."
 
BB10 said:
Classics is not canon to the OG Marvel series. So what they do there doesn't really tie in to the OG universe. It was a recently emerged splinter universe that was said to occupy the space of a GoBots universe and slowly replacing that reality.

None the less, Pete Sinclair says Wings Univese is a different reality.

For Dreamwave, there was an interview or smth where they confirmed it was a new universe and not Sunbow universe. I could probably find it if you want.

For Devastation, it is the best candidate to fit into the G1 cartoon out of the ones you mentioned. It is somewhat arguable. For what it's worth, there is a video from Gamespot or IGN reporting that Devastation takes place in the "Generations Universe" (could it be canon to the Combiner Wars show?).

Sunbow tie-in material that can easily be taken as canon:
* Madman Transformers comic (prequel to 86 movie)
* Rodimus vs Cyclonus tie-in comic (takes place during the 86 movie. There are some design changes for some characters from the 86 movie to sell the new toys, but I just chalk that up to artistic license and consider this canon)
* The recent Yolopark Cliffjumper comic with it revealing that Sunbow Cliffjumper survives to the end of the universe.
* Also, the live-action Powermaster Optimus Prime segments can also be considered canon. They were literally even a part of the OG show as Season 5.

Stuff that MAY be canon to Sunbow:
* Devastation game does take place in a G1 cartoon setting. Albeit I haven't seen any actual commentary from the creators.
* Mars Attacks Transformers crossover could be canon.
www.seibertron.com

Mars Attacks: The Transformers Creator Commentary

Transformers toy galleries, news, forums, comics, the Twincast Podcast, and the Heavy Metal War game — all in one place at SEIBERTRON™, where there’s always more than meets the eye.
www.seibertron.com www.seibertron.com
"SHANE MCCARTHY: It wasn't too difficult once I found the tone I'd like to use when approaching the story. It could have gone a few different ways but I really wanted to go for all out fun. The only stipulation that was given to me by Carlos was that it would be set in the G1 universe, so I figured we could take that a step further and make it a real Mars Attacks Saturday Morning Cartoons. Mixing the two properties was a gold mine for humor, so it was a real pleasure to cut loose and find the fun in all of this."
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since you're using the wiki and interviews, here's from the wiki:

Marvel Comics continuity - Transformers Wiki

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If this doesn't sound like a branched timeline, IDK what it does.

For Dreamwave I was trying to made that continuity meaningful, Ik it was conceved as separate, but since it was left dead like a corpse i don't think interviews matter anymore.

The rest I agree, the more useless universes we eliminate incorporating them with the big ones, the better.

OH I forgot, may I remind you that Peter Sinclear wasn't always behind everything?
 
Megatron said:
since you're using the wiki and interviews, here's from the wiki:

Marvel Comics continuity - Transformers Wiki

tfwiki.net tfwiki.net

If this doesn't sound like a branched timeline, IDK what it does.

For Dreamwave I was trying to made that continuity meaningful, Ik it was conceved as separate, but since it was left dead like a corpse i don't think interviews matter anymore.
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It is a branch timeline but it is like how Marvel 2099 is a different reality than 616 in Marvel. Many of the 616 events are canon to 2099/Earth-928 but not vice versa.

For Dreamwave, while I could see that, it is still meant to be a different universe.
Megatron said:
The rest I agree, the more useless universe we eliminate incorporating them with the big ones, the
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That mentality is probably partially TFWiki's fault, as they treated every tie-in story as automatically non-canon (not even secondary canon) to the main media they were supposed to tie-in to even if there was no real condradiction. That mentality got picked up by the fandom, so any tie-in is automatically seen as non-canon by many in the fandom.
Megatron said:
OH I forgot, may I remind you that Peter Sinclear wasn't always behind everything?
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He still has more insider knowledge than any of us. I doubt he was making stuff up. He wouldn't be talking about it if he didn't know anything on the topic.
 
BB10 said:
It is a branch timeline but it is like how Marvel 2099 is a different reality than 616 in Marvel. Many of the 616 events are canon to 2099/Earth-928 but not vice versa.

For Dreamwave, while I could see that, it is still meant to be a different universe.

That mentality is probably partially TFWiki's fault, as they treated every tie-in story as automatically non-canon (not even secondary canon) to the main media they were supposed to tie-in to even if there was no real condradiction. That mentality got picked up by the fandom, so any tie-in is automatically seen as non-canon by many in the fandom.

He still has more insider knowledge than any of us. I doubt he was making stuff up. He wouldn't be talking about it if he didn't know anything on the topic.
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exactly, they are all 3 canon, but different futures, that's what i was trying to say, thank you for finally understand.

Yes, unfortunaly all the big people like sinclair talk about stuff they don't even know about. And what he said on the wing universe still sounds weak to me.
 
Megatron said:
exactly, they are all 3 canon, but different futures, that's what i was trying to say, thank you for finally understand.

Yes, unfortunaly all the big people like sinclair talk about stuff they don't even know about. And what he said on the wing universe still sounds weak to me.
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Yes but the canon continuation is the G2 story according to Ask Vector Prime and the Regeneration One according to Simon Furman. While Classics was always treated as a splinter timeline. That's what I mean.

Peter Sinclair's statement, coming from someone involved in these, is still better than nothing. He edited many issues of the Collectors' Club magazine as well as the Timelines issues featuring Wings Universe stories. And I don't think there is any statement clashing with his own regarding Wings Universe.

I won't reply after this tbh. I am tired of arguing.
 
I just checked the Wings Universe stories, and not only Pete Sinclaire wrote a good chunk of the Wings Universe stories himself, he also served as an editor in almost all of them. So, his word to me is reliable as it gets, especially without knowing what the other creators of Wings Universe say and if they would disagree with him or not. Like I said, his word is as reliable as it gets and saying otherwise is just cope tbh.

But I won't argue after this.
 
iceman109 said:
Could the Friday the 13th remake also happen in the same universe as well? It has original characters and story although the flashback happens in 1980 instead of the original being 1957 but that could possibly be ignored
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The original film released in 1980, so they placed the flashback to the rebooted version of it in 1980. The sequels retconned it into 1979. This doesn't match the days of the week with the film being set in June (shown through on-screen text) though, so I move it to July. That way Friday the 13th isn't set on Wednesday the 13th, lol. Even the Pamala tie-in comic places the first film in June 1980 even though it contradicts the later films.

There's no contradictions to the first film's events being set in 1980 within the Bayverse continuity though. Obviously if we were to take the 2009 film as being canon to the original film series, the flashback would be an inaccurate retelling of 1979 events mistakenly taken to occur in 1980 (which works because it's a campfire retelling in-universe)... but then we have the Freddy vs Jason vs Gwen vs Optimus timeline, and I'd rather avoid that.
 
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""Legally, it's a sequel. If you have to give it a name, it's a sequel to the first movie."
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Apparently he also once said it's a sequel to a remake that doesn't exist, but the only source on that is a random reddit comment.
 
This writer inquires if the presence of a wheelchair spotted in Jason's tunnels is the type of reference to the older films that gets scripted. Swift says yes: "And if you put in twenty, just because of the nature of making a movie, four might make it. You hope you describe exactly what the sweater should look like for Mrs. Voorhees. Will it turn out? Maybe not, but you try. You got to make sure the fanboys get all of those nods."

"We like to plant Easter Eggs for the fans and hopefully they'll spot those," Shannon beams. These fun morsels sprinkled throughout the film beg the question, however - where does this Friday the 13th fit into the existing series? It's decidedly a restart of the Voorhees legend, but "fans can argue to themselves that this is kind of a sequel with the only returning character being Jason" Swift says. "I think that's great because we're not telling people those movies don't exist. I love those movies and they're not being thrown out, I hope the hardcore guys can still say this felt like a sequel in many ways."
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Well, I'm going to ignore the implications of this. It'd be all well and good if not for the fact that including all the Friday the 13th and A Nightmare on Elm Street movies in the Transformers timeline is just ludicrous. That's without talking about the other connections...

"We tried to take elements from all three [of the first] movies to create one reboot of Friday the 13th. You will see Jason put on the hockey mask for the first time, how and why. And you'll see him actually do it. Not just come out with it on."
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I'm just going to use this quote here because it simplifies things.
 
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Can we talk about the Bill & Ted Franchise? Explicity about the maaaaaany cameos in Bill & Ted's Excellent Halloween Adventures?
 
Zeitschiene said:
What does the Bill & Ted Franchise Timeline look like anyways
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1. I'm disregarding statements that the shows and comics aren't canon for a moment because that would be really boring. Some of the later comics literally tie into the third film. Maybe they don't work, I don't know. I figure time travel allows for everything to count one way or another.

2. I haven't actually verified these placements, I don't know for sure. It's just an estimate.

1351 - The Seventh Seal
1945 - A Matter of Life and Death
1989 - Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
1990 - Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures (1990) 1x01-1x13
1991 - Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey
1991 - Bill & Ted's Most Triumphant Return #1-6
1994 - Bill & Ted Go To Hell #1-4
1991 - Bill & Ted Present Death #1
1991 - Bill & Ted Roll the Dice #1-4
1991 - Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures (1990) 2x01-2x08
1991 - Bill & Ted's Excellent Comic Book #1-12
1992 - Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures (1992) 1x01-1x07
1994 - Bill & Ted Save the Universe #1-5
2000 - Bill & Ted Are Doomed #1-4
2020 - Bill & Ted Face the Music

Franchise
Main Films
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey
Bill & Ted Face the Music

Television Series
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures (1990)
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventures (1992)

Comics
Bill & Ted's Excellent Comic Book #1-12
Bill & Ted's Most Triumphant Return #1-6
Bill & Ted Go To Hell #1-4
Bill & Ted Save the Universe #1-5
Bill & Ted Are Doomed #1-4
Bill & Ted Present Death #1
Bill & Ted Roll the Dice #1-4

Unrelated Works
A Matter of Life and Death
The Seventh Seal
 
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